1. #107341
    Quote Originally Posted by Iliena View Post
    www.bbc.co.uk

    You couldn't make this shit up!
    You know, they are required to do this due to local laws and regulations around additional fees and taxes. So, unless she wants to call local laws and regulations "hostile and political acts", she can just go stuff it.

    This is why, if at a store you see the price of something being $10 and there is a 5% state or local sales tax, you'll see that at the register instead of on the shelf within the US. In the end, you'll end up paying $10.50 for it.

  2. #107342
    Quote Originally Posted by Iliena View Post
    www.bbc.co.uk

    You couldn't make this shit up!
    I thought tariff is our winning from other countries. Why is this a hostile act? This is free advertising from Amazon for trump!

  3. #107343
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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    You know, they are required to do this due to local laws and regulations around additional fees and taxes. So, unless she wants to call local laws and regulations "hostile and political acts", she can just go stuff it.

    This is why, if at a store you see the price of something being $10 and there is a 5% state or local sales tax, you'll see that at the register instead of on the shelf within the US. In the end, you'll end up paying $10.50 for it.
    The (stupid) complaint seems to be that Amazon was considering displaying the normal price, and then the tariff bump identified as a tariff add-on, plus whatever other relevant taxes and duties there may be.

    They already do so for added "import fees and duties", and tariffs will just get shoved under that label if nowhere else.


  4. #107344
    Quote Originally Posted by Azadina View Post
    There's a difference between deporting illegals using due process, and acting like Gestapo on 'good ol' juden hunt. Not my problem if ICE is acting like the latter. I'm just wondering why the fuck do you approve of it?
    As a German I look at the USA these days and all I see is the same behavior I learned about in history lessons back in school. The USA does a speedrun towards fascism, already sorting people and deporting them. And that's not the end of it. tehdang would fit right in in these history books, sporting a Charlie Chaplin beard, pointing at the sun. A bit strange that he is such a coward and isn't able to say he likes his little beard and wears it on purpose.

  5. #107345
    The fun things here are that:

    • Attacking one of the billionaires that put Trump into power is definitely a smart move that will ensure further cooperation.
    • Even if Amazon doesn't actually list the tariff separately, this is going to make people very aware that, when the cost of things on Amazon does increase, it's probably going to be because of the tariffs.
    confirmed by my uncle nitnendo and masahiro samurai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    As a German I look at the USA these days and all I see is the same behavior I learned about in history lessons back in school.
    See, that's the problem. Trump supporters are trying to scrub that out of history schools.

  7. #107347
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...cent-citizens/

    eyo donald wants cops to abuse the fuck out of regular citizens so he can provide them with free legal services to defend them from their criminal accusations.

    just a reminder that donald and republicans are very much the shiny leather boot on your throat

  8. #107348
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...cent-citizens/

    eyo donald wants cops to abuse the fuck out of regular citizens so he can provide them with free legal services to defend them from their criminal accusations.

    just a reminder that donald and republicans are very much the shiny leather boot on your throat
    Cops who already part of the fascist regime. Combining them with ICE getting a proto Gestapo here of agencies to arrest people w/o impunity.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

  9. #107349
    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Cops who already part of the fascist regime. Combining them with ICE getting a proto Gestapo here of agencies to arrest people w/o impunity.
    gaspacho*

    Please get it right. Ms. Marjorie Taylor Greene would be very upset to hear you besmirch the seriousness of the gaspacho police in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    Democrats think the signature itself is racist, so I'll leave the middle ground open.
    As a Californian where we have mail-in voting with signature verification that's very uncontroversial even amongst Democrats in the state, I'm not sure why you appear to just make shit up and you don't expect to be challenged on it or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    It's great that she had a removal order. Kind of like due process was observed.
    So ICE had 0 leeway to temporarily hold her while placing the child with family? Is that what I'm to understand? And you think that's a fine and acceptable decision on their part?

    I don't want to put words in your mouth now.

  10. #107350
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    You know, for someone who claims to have the most transparent administration ever, being angry at others being transparent is just admission of hypocrisy.

    We all know the real reason: it makes Trump look bad. If Amazon or Temu had an "inflation adjustment" setting for Biden, Trump would have cheered it. Granted (a) we'll never know, so I admit that's a hypothetical, and (b) inflation affects everything so there'd be no need for such and (c) inflation doesn't, you know, go away because the guy in the WH shit his diapers again and changes his game plan over 30 seconds.

    Amazon and Temu are doing the right thing. "This isn't our fault" is exactly what you want to say when it isn't your fault, and you have proof. Which they do.

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    He wants those tax cuts. They...aren't happening right this second.
    I have not seen it on Amazon. However, Temu already adds tariff charge on some items. I don't think tariff charge is added to items already in local US warehouses. Temu is not Amazon. Still, $30b sale in 2024, and projected $50b in 2025, is no joke.

  11. #107351
    https://www.npr.org/2025/04/29/nx-s1...zenship-arrest

    The April 14 detention of Columbia University student Mohsen Mahdawi was caught on video as he flashed a peace sign while being taken from an immigration office in Colchester, Vt. He told NPR's Morning Edition he'd arrived thinking an interview there would be his final step to becoming a U.S. citizen after 10 years of living and learning in the United States.

    Instead, after sitting for a naturalization interview and signing a document pledging allegiance to the U.S. and to protecting and defending the Constitution, he was arrested by masked agents in Homeland Security jackets.
    Oh, you think you're getting your citizenship? Nope, masked gaspacho will arrest and throw you into detainment!

    Mahdawi, a lawful permanent U.S. resident who grew up in a Palestinian refugee camp in the occupied West Bank, is among multiple international students facing deportation – ostensibly over their advocacy on several campuses against Israel's war in Gaza.

    His lawyers are arguing in federal court in Vermont that Mahdawi was detained "in retaliation for his speech advocating for Palestinian human rights" and that his arrest and detention are part of a policy "intended to silence and chill the speech of those who advocate for Palestinian human rights."

    The Justice Department Monday submitted new court filings that included a two-page letter from Secretary of State Marco Rubio stating that the "activities and presence of Mahdawi in the United States undermines U.S. policy to combat antisemitism." It added that protests like those Mahdawi led at Columbia "potentially undermine the peace process underway in the Middle East," where efforts for a ceasefire have stalled.

    Right now some 59 hostages taken from Israel are still being held by Hamas in Gaza, about half are believed dead according to Israel. Meanwhile Israel has been withholding aid from Gaza for eight weeks and Palestinians are going hungry as they endure daily attacks.
    In which First Amendment protected free speech continues to be something that Marco Rubio, Donald Trump, and Republicans do not acknowledge as they continue to try to punish and deport foreign-born students for expressing protected First Amendment speech.

    Importantly -

    Monday's court filing did not provide any evidence of the accusations against Mahdawi in the letter, including those of threatening rhetoric and intimidation of pro-Israeli bystanders. The government argues that the federal court in Vermont should not grant Mahdawi's request for release because it does not have jurisdiction in foreign policy matters.
    So the government has no evidence and wants to argue that the executive branch is above the law and the authority of federal courts. This isn't a foreign policy matter, this is a Constitutional Rights matter.

    Nobody hates the First Amendment like the Republican party hates the First Amendment.

  12. #107352
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    gaspacho*

    Please get it right. Ms. Marjorie Taylor Greene would be very upset to hear you besmirch the seriousness of the gaspacho police in history.

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    As a Californian where we have mail-in voting with signature verification that's very uncontroversial even amongst Democrats in the state, I'm not sure why you appear to just make shit up and you don't expect to be challenged on it or something.



    So ICE had 0 leeway to temporarily hold her while placing the child with family? Is that what I'm to understand? And you think that's a fine and acceptable decision on their part?

    I don't want to put words in your mouth now.
    ICE needs to give the parents the opportunity to make considered decisions on the welfare of the children with US citizens. That's the bottom line.

  13. #107353
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    I have not seen it on Amazon. However, Temu already adds tariff charge on some items. I don't think tariff charge is added to items already in local US warehouses. Temu is not Amazon. Still, $30b sale in 2024, and projected $50b in 2025, is no joke.
    i'm so depressed seeing some people post their huge shopping carts and being like WOW I NEVER WOULD HAVE NOTICED THE $500 CHARGE ON MY $300 ORDER IF OTHERS HADN'T TOLD ME and like

    1. why are you buying $300 of bullshit from temu

    2. does nobody check their fucking baskets and the charges before checkout or something?

    i swear, the more and more I see consumers sharing information about how they purchase/consume things the more I'm convinced people are just stupid and don't know how basic shit or money works.

  14. #107354
    U.S. trade deficit in goods soars to all-time high as businesses aimed to beat Trump tariffs
    The numbers: U.S. businesses brought in a new high of foreign goods in March for the fourth month in a row as they tried to beat price increases tied to the Trump tariffs — assuring a weak GDP report in the first quarter.

    The U.S. trade deficit in goods surged 10% in March to a record high of $162 billion, the government said Tuesday.

    The deficit began to surge in December after Donald Trump won the presidential election and many businesses took seriously his vow to raise tariffs. They’ve been importing extra amounts of cellphones, computers, drugs, clothes and many other goods to try to ride out the trade wars.

    Trade deficits subtract from gross domestic product, the official scorecard of the U.S. economy. The record trade gap in the first quarter is expected to produce a GDP reading of just 0.4% annual growth, which would be the smallest increase in nearly three years.

    Forecasters might further reduce GDP estimates after the latest surge in the trade deficit.

    Key details: U.S. goods imports rose 5% in March to $342.7 billion. They are also up a whopping 31% compared with the same month in 2024.

    Exports of U.S.-made goods rose a smaller 1.2% to $180.8 billion in March. Exports could begin to fall if other countries retaliate with tariffs of their own, as some have.

    Also in the report, the government said retail inventories fell 0.1% and wholesale inventories increased 0.5%.

    Higher inventories add to GDP, potentially offsetting some of the drag from the record trade deficit.

    Big picture: Trump has vowed to slash a chronic U.S. trade deficit, but for now, tariffs have pushed it to new highs as businesses continued to “front run” the tariffs.

    The appetite for foreign goods began to shrink as the duties started in late March and early April. Major U.S. ports saw fewer ships planning to arrive in May because high tariffs make many foreign goods too expensive to sell.

    The trade deficit could fall sharply in the coming months if high tariffs remain in place, but economists say prolonged trade wars could severely damage the U.S. economy and even cause a recession.
    I'm struggling to contain my shocked Pikachu face...

  15. #107355
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    ICE needs to give the parents the opportunity to make considered decisions on the welfare of the children with US citizens. That's the bottom line.
    One would think! But the law is the law and if she has a US citizen minor with her then that toddler has to get the fuck out of the country too and there's just no leeway ICE has to delay her removal until the child has been placed with family in the US.

    tehdang keeps telling essentially me this so I assume it must be true. They literally had no choice. No power. No authority. They picked up the phone and the lines mysteriously went dead. They opened gmail and their internet dropped. It was so weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    trade deficit is up?

    SOUNDS LIKE TIME FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF GLOBAL TARIFFS, BABY

  16. #107356
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    i'm so depressed seeing some people post their huge shopping carts and being like WOW I NEVER WOULD HAVE NOTICED THE $500 CHARGE ON MY $300 ORDER IF OTHERS HADN'T TOLD ME and like

    1. why are you buying $300 of bullshit from temu

    2. does nobody check their fucking baskets and the charges before checkout or something?

    i swear, the more and more I see consumers sharing information about how they purchase/consume things the more I'm convinced people are just stupid and don't know how basic shit or money works.
    No way they won't notice it. It is spelled out there at the bottom of your order summary in big bold letter. Not to mention that it more than doubles the order total at the very bottom.

    Yes, my wife like to buy cheap colorful print summer dresses off Temu. They are not cheap anymore.
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  17. #107357
    https://www.reuters.com/world/chinas...ly-2025-04-28/

    China's foreign ministry on Monday said President Xi Jinping had not spoken to Donald Trump recently, nor were their respective administrations trying to strike a tariff deal, contradicting the U.S. president's claim in an interview with Time magazine.

    "As far as I know, the two heads of state have not called each other recently," Guo Jiakun, a ministry spokesperson, said. "I would like to reiterate that China and the U.S. have not conducted consultations or negotiations on the tariffs issue."
    Donald lied again, the US and China aren't speaking.

    And more on trade - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/...191201959.html

    Some tariff relief is on the way for automakers after the White House confirmed the US will act on Tuesday to alleviate some duties on the industry.

    Officials said companies already paying tariffs on imported vehicles won't be charged other levies, such as on steel. The US will also ease duties on foreign parts.

    The climbdown comes after intense lobbying from the auto industry, which warned of a huge hit to sales and price hikes for consumers in the face of 25% tariffs on vehicle and parts imports. General Motors (GM) on Tuesday became the latest company to pull its forward guidance, warning of tariff-related uncertainty.
    Some possible relief for automakers. We'll see if these survive 24 hours or if they get reversed like so many other "announcements".

    But with 145% tariffs on China now in place for several weeks, cargo shipments have dropped dramatically, with estimates suggesting a 60% decline, per Bloomberg. Experts are warning of coming supply shortages and layoffs in sectors like trucking, logistics, and retail.
    EMPTY SHELVES, BROUGHT TO YOU BY DONLAD TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, BABY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    i swear, the more and more I see consumers sharing information about how they purchase/consume things the more I'm convinced people are just stupid and don't know how basic shit or money works.
    I watch a youtube channel, Caleb Hammer. He talks to mostly young folks, 20-30, with a person older than that occasionally. What you said, is the norm on his show. The absolute financial ignorance, mismanagement, and obliviousness of their spending is shocking. Lots of poorly executed "girl math" happening as well.
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  19. #107359
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.reuters.com/world/chinas...ly-2025-04-28/



    Donald lied again, the US and China aren't speaking.

    And more on trade - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/...191201959.html



    Some possible relief for automakers. We'll see if these survive 24 hours or if they get reversed like so many other "announcements".



    EMPTY SHELVES, BROUGHT TO YOU BY DONLAD TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, BABY
    Limited relief for automakers. The 25% tariff is still applicable to imported vehicles. GM is the largest vehicle importer in the US. Ford and Stelantis are up there also.

  20. #107360
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.reuters.com/world/chinas...ly-2025-04-28/



    Donald lied again, the US and China aren't speaking.

    And more on trade - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/...191201959.html



    Some possible relief for automakers. We'll see if these survive 24 hours or if they get reversed like so many other "announcements".



    EMPTY SHELVES, BROUGHT TO YOU BY DONLAD TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, BABY
    Seems like China has correctly identified that there is no point negotiating with someone who changes his mind before you leave the room and they are better of just waiting for the US to implode and businesses to pressure Congress into overruling Trump.

    Whether it will be this Congress of the next remains to be seen.
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