1. #107761
    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    My view with Rogan isn’t that he is trying to cause issues or any of that. He isn’t a politician or really political, he is a podcaster and entertainer who is willing to have anyone on his show that he thinks his viewers would like to hear from and he doesn’t really push back on the stuff because he does really know it.

    Like when he had Neil Tyson on there. He could have easily lied to Joe and gotten away with it with no pushback because Joe isn’t a scientist or anything.

    The issue is Trump and the Republicans know this and exploit it with anyone they think they can talk to with an audience and without pushback.

    Really wish he would research before he invites guests on and push back more. But, from what I have seen, his style is to basically just have a conservation on to keep the dialog going and let them talk.

    Something that could have helped that would have been for a Democrat politician volunteer to go on his show and spend it actually fact checking much of Trumps lies during it with sources to back it up already pre searched to give them quickly.

    But I see Rogan as an entertainer who doesn’t know enough to push back on most people who invites when it comes to real hard hitting topics.
    Nah there are stages to Joe Rogan. I used to watch his show cuz it was entertaining and I still do now but for different reasons. Like he pushes back on topics he feels strongly about. Like he used to believe in climate change and pushed back on it. He believes on certain things and he pushes on those topics. I dont think he is a conservative, he is a conspiracy theorist through and through. And currently the republican party is the party of that.

    He is antivaxx, he has bought into those weird diets, he has recently become anti climate change. Like these are things that have found their home in the GOP so thats where Joe leans on.

  2. #107762
    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    But I see Rogan as an entertainer who doesn’t know enough to push back on most people who invites when it comes to real hard hitting topics.
    People really need to stop making excuses for Rogan. He invites propagandists, grifters, and charlatans on his show. If he cared about having to push back against that garbage, he could simply not have them on. He doesn't care.

  3. #107763
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    People really need to stop making excuses for Rogan. He invites propagandists, grifters, and charlatans on his show. If he cared about having to push back against that garbage, he could simply not have them on. He doesn't care.
    He has an episode with Jordan Peterson where they muse about how fake climate change is and that its a globalist conspiracy. Like I am not making this up. And that is pretty shocking cuz he used to push back on climate change but his brain broke somewhere along the way that he is become like an insane nutjob on a lot of things.

    In the same convo they do a lot of COVID conspiracy talk and Joe is the one pushing that stuff

  4. #107764
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    People really need to stop making excuses for Rogan. He invites propagandists, grifters, and charlatans on his show. If he cared about having to push back against that garbage, he could simply not have them on. He doesn't care.
    No, no, no you see you just don't get it, he once endorsed Bernie Sanders so Joe Rogan is the peak enlightened centrist who for whatever reason just wants to constantly talk to far right grifters most of the time.

    Years later, Rogan just gets worse with the grifting shit yet people still try to carry his water cause he once endorsed Bernie, lol.

  5. #107765
    Can someone inform Trump that swimming from Alcatraz to the mainland is a year round tourist attraction in San Francisco.

    How fucking dumb is Trump exactly?

  6. #107766
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Can someone inform Trump that swimming from Alcatraz to the mainland is a year round tourist attraction in San Francisco.

    How fucking dumb is Trump exactly?
    Tourism? You mean the industry Trump is actively killing?

  7. #107767
    Something something Biden has dementia something something Diaper Don decided to open up Alcatraz because he saw a movie.


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  8. #107768
    This orange idiot watched The Rock recently, didn't he? This is the only way I can make this bullshit make sense in my head.

  9. #107769
    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    This orange idiot watched The Rock recently, didn't he? This is the only way I can make this bullshit make sense in my head.
    "Escape From Alcatraz" actually. It was on PBS mere hours before Trump made this announcement and does indeed end with them finding nothing but ripped up clothing in the Bay.

  10. #107770
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    "Escape From Alcatraz" actually. It was on PBS mere hours before Trump made this announcement and does indeed end with them finding nothing but ripped up clothing in the Bay.
    If we had a facepalm emote thing here, this is where I'd spam it... Jesus Christ. Policy via whatever movie the president last saw.

    Stable genius energy just radiating right now!

  11. #107771
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    "Escape From Alcatraz" actually. It was on PBS mere hours before Trump made this announcement and does indeed end with them finding nothing but ripped up clothing in the Bay.
    If he watched the movie, then how in gods name did he arrive at the conclusion that ONE person almost escaped?
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    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

  12. #107772
    What kind of idiot came up with "Land of the free, home of the brave". If there are two words that do not and never have applied to the US it's free and brave.

  13. #107773
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    "Escape From Alcatraz" actually.
    Ironically, it's a movie about a prison escape starring the Prisoner.

  14. #107774
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Nah there are stages to Joe Rogan. I used to watch his show cuz it was entertaining and I still do now but for different reasons. Like he pushes back on topics he feels strongly about. Like he used to believe in climate change and pushed back on it. He believes on certain things and he pushes on those topics. I dont think he is a conservative, he is a conspiracy theorist through and through. And currently the republican party is the party of that.

    He is antivaxx, he has bought into those weird diets, he has recently become anti climate change. Like these are things that have found their home in the GOP so thats where Joe leans on.
    As someone who doesn’t actually watch it short of the occasional short that seems to scroll past when I am just mindlessly scrolling and the responses of others on here, will have to defer to you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    My view with Rogan isn’t that he is trying to cause issues or any of that. He isn’t a politician or really political, he is a podcaster and entertainer who is willing to have anyone on his show that he thinks his viewers would like to hear from and he doesn’t really push back on the stuff because he does really know it.

    Like when he had Neil Tyson on there. He could have easily lied to Joe and gotten away with it with no pushback because Joe isn’t a scientist or anything.

    The issue is Trump and the Republicans know this and exploit it with anyone they think they can talk to with an audience and without pushback.

    Really wish he would research before he invites guests on and push back more. But, from what I have seen, his style is to basically just have a conservation on to keep the dialog going and let them talk.

    Something that could have helped that would have been for a Democrat politician volunteer to go on his show and spend it actually fact checking much of Trumps lies during it with sources to back it up already pre searched to give them quickly.

    But I see Rogan as an entertainer who doesn’t know enough to push back on most people who invites when it comes to real hard hitting topics.
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  16. #107776
    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    My view with Rogan isn’t that he is trying to cause issues or any of that. He isn’t a politician or really political, he is a podcaster and entertainer who is willing to have anyone on his show that he thinks his viewers would like to hear from and he doesn’t really push back on the stuff because he does really know it.

    Like when he had Neil Tyson on there. He could have easily lied to Joe and gotten away with it with no pushback because Joe isn’t a scientist or anything.

    The issue is Trump and the Republicans know this and exploit it with anyone they think they can talk to with an audience and without pushback.

    Really wish he would research before he invites guests on and push back more. But, from what I have seen, his style is to basically just have a conservation on to keep the dialog going and let them talk.

    Something that could have helped that would have been for a Democrat politician volunteer to go on his show and spend it actually fact checking much of Trumps lies during it with sources to back it up already pre searched to give them quickly.

    But I see Rogan as an entertainer who doesn’t know enough to push back on most people who invites when it comes to real hard hitting topics.
    I think Rogan along with many other of these influencer types just jumped on the bandwagon and took it too far now that the pendulum is swinging hard the opposite direction. He's gone full pro oligarch having them on and going so far up Elon's backside he is giving him a colonoscopy. I think people like him have been entirely caught off guard by how fast Trump is crashing. Some will try to pivot others will double down, it's hard to wash off the orange stink once you endorse him.

  17. #107777
    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Except that Jessica Fletcher doesn't actually exis...

    ...oh, right.

    Yeah, still better than Bondi.
    It says a lot when it would be better for the US to be staffed with literal fictional characters who couldn't do anything than actual people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Just a thought, part of the reason why Hegseth might be trying to reduce the number of generals would be to reduce the number of loyalists they would need to fill that they know would give their orders.
    Anyone with a brain has realized this, so no republican voters obviously

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Ironically, it's a movie about a prison escape starring the Prisoner.
    Can someone make him watch Idiocracy next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Can someone make him watch Idiocracy next?
    Please no, he'll get the wrong lesson and sign an order replacing all water with brawndo

  20. #107780
    Quote Originally Posted by P for Pancetta View Post
    What kind of idiot came up with "Land of the free, home of the brave". If there are two words that do not and never have applied to the US it's free and brave.
    It comes from the Brits shelling an American fort during the war of 1812. A lawyer and poet watched and wrote it down. Now, it's part of the American national anthem.

    I should observe that (1) liberals/progressives generally won't call out members of their political movement who say things like "Land of the free, home of the brave ... do not and never have applied to the US and (2) that kind of bullshit, among other things, gives Vance his support to go over to Germany and call out Europeans for retreating from democratic and western values. Not that you're necessarily European and saying it, but it's usually the worst offenders that criticize others on topics of bravery and freedom.

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