Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Mazza]

In the wake of the Trump admins Birthright Citizenship courtcases, the Supreme Courts looks at Trumps lawyers claim that the decisions none SC federal judges take can only be applied to the people bringing the case as opposed to being upheld nationwide.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/14/p...nd-term-agenda

Which is bananas. In case of the birthright citizinship for instance, the administrations claim is that only children with at least one parent being a natural born US citizen or a legal permanent resident in the US as opposed to every child born in the US (barring some exceptions like children of diplomats) I would guess that there's ppl that are affected by that in every federal court district in the US. The amount of courtcases that would need to be had would get insane while they probably would all end up with the same result (the judges telling the executive that they are really bad at interpreting the constitution) until the SC rules on the matter itself.

[Poopymonster]

In the wake of the Trump admins Birthright Citizenship courtcases, the Supreme Courts looks at Trumps lawyers claim that the decisions none SC federal judges take can only be applied to the people bringing the case as opposed to being upheld nationwide.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/14/p...nd-term-agenda

Which is bananas. In case of the birthright citizinship for instance, the administrations claim is that only children with at least one parent being a natural born US citizen or a legal permanent resident in the US as opposed to every child born in the US (barring some exceptions like children of diplomats) I would guess that there's ppl that are affected by that in every federal court district in the US. The amount of courtcases that would need to be had would get insane while they probably would all end up with the same result (the judges telling the executive that they are really bad at interpreting the constitution) until the SC rules on the matter itself.

Yes that's the point. Slow it down and then they do what they want. In the interim between "kidnap and expel citizens" and judge says "Stop that shit", lots of people they determine as Undesirable have been sent to some hellhole prison.
Repeat.
When ordered to bring them back, stall, appeal, flat out don't. Draw it out further. Do everything BUT bring them back.
Make the process painful.
Make people fearful.

[Draco-Onis]

No one is going to civil war over minority rights. It's the deep descent into Nazism option.

They won't for minority rights, they will if republicans take away their porn. The bill basically attacks distributors of pornography in general which would basically ban all porn sites from the US under fear of prosecution. Aside from Christian nut jobs on the right most Americans would see it as a step too far and they aren't smart enough to know how to work a VPN.

[Belize]

They won't for minority rights, they will if republicans take away their porn. The bill basically attacks distributors of pornography in general which would basically ban all porn sites from the US under fear of prosecution. Aside from Christian nut jobs on the right most Americans would see it as a step too far and they aren't smart enough to know how to work a VPN.

I doubt it, a couple southern states implemented porn laws that made Pornhub withdraw from those states entirely, and we haven't heard a peep. While yes I'll agree there are plenty of other options still available within those states, Americans are very good at being complacent and letting their freedoms be chipped away at.
There would not be a mass upheaval if porn were to be federally banned, at best it'd be Prohibition 2.0 where everyone would know where and how to get it, and besides some performative arrests targeting easy culprits, the law would generally turn a blind eye.

[Kaleredar]

Hmm, yet more rights previously established by the constitution at risk of being eroded by a far-right aligned Supreme Court…

If only we could have elected presidents at certain times to have ensured that the composition of the Supreme Court wouldn’t be turned into a bunch of far right sycophants, and that that alone would have been important enough to vote for someone some might otherwise have found “just kinda boring”

Oh well!

[SAY HER NAME]

I watch Fox news cuz I am a masochist and it lets me keep myself grounded on what conservatives believe. And I have been noticing an uptick of conservatives arguing that giving immigrants a trial would be to bothersome? And some even implying that they do not need to since Obama and Clinton did it without trial. And like???

Conservatives (who actually hate America since they dont want to respect any of Americas founding values) are trying to build a case that they do not respect due process.

[Somewhatconcerned]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rfk-jr-...stion-hearing/



In which the head of HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES openly states nobody should be taking medical advice from him despite the fact that he heads a health department for a nation.

But "DEI hires" are the problem.

Wild there's still not a peep from that crowd about this unqualified shitgibbon who ignores public warnings and takes his family to bathe in waters contaminated by human waste - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...ria-rcna206416



Wonder how many more kids will die of measles because our HHS Secretary who once almost ate roadkill bear cut doesn't believe in vaccines.

To be fair, he said for people to not take medical advice from him. He has every right to take a risk and swim in that stream if he wants. He never advocated for you to do so.

And just because a body of water is contaminated doesn't mean it is uniformly so. There are invariably cleaner areas than others. Again, RFK Jr swimming in that creek has zero impact on our day to day lives.

[Poopymonster]

I doubt it, a couple southern states implemented porn laws that made Pornhub withdraw from those states entirely, and we haven't heard a peep. While yes I'll agree there are plenty of other options still available within those states, Americans are very good at being complacent and letting their freedoms be chipped away at.
There would not be a mass upheaval if porn were to be federally banned, at best it'd be Prohibition 2.0 where everyone would know where and how to get it, and besides some performative arrests targeting easy culprits, the law would generally turn a blind eye.

You bet your ass BBC would be a prime target.

[Bwgmon]

To be fair, he said for people to not take medical advice from him. He has every right to take a risk and swim in that stream if he wants. He never advocated for you to do so.

And just because a body of water is contaminated doesn't mean it is uniformly so. There are invariably cleaner areas than others. Again, RFK Jr swimming in that creek has zero impact on our day to day lives.

I'd say "I take it you're not a fan of leading by example, then" but we already know, man.

[Xath]

No one is going to civil war over minority rights. It's the deep descent into Nazism option.

Thing is they want to make this a death penalty it's like making jaywalking a death penalty something that basically everyone has done at some point in their life that they can employ at will. That might actually be enough to cause a revolution.

[Edge-]

To be fair, he said for people to not take medical advice from him.

What's his job, again? What department does he run?

He has every right to take a risk and swim in that stream if he wants. He never advocated for you to do so.

Unsurprisingly, "Lead by example" appears to be a foreign concept.

Also ignoring the risk he put his grandchildren in for literally no reason because having the head of a health department ignore health warnings from professionals is a great look.

And just because a body of water is contaminated doesn't mean it is uniformly so.

Oh jesus this reminds me of that other time you had quite possibly the worst take on the internet on a topic and now I'm trying to remember what it was.

Like do you even think before posting this? This doesn't seem like you thought about this before posting it.

There are invariably cleaner areas than others. Again, RFK Jr swimming in that creek has zero impact on our day to day lives.

oh honey you're so desperate for a win it's sad

[TACOshake]

Ongoing in: Most incompetent Administration in History
The plane being a White Elephant gift is the funniest turn this saga could have taken.

Forbes: The Qataris have been trying to get rid of that ostentatious luxury jet for five years, but no one would buy it. It costs too much to fly, costs more to maintain, and needs too big a landing strip. They had another one they unloaded on Turkey.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremyb...tar-747-trump/

While many have speculated that the Qataris have offered Trump the luxurious plane to curry favor with the famously transactional president, there may be a simpler rationale: they just don’t want it anymore.

The royals have failed to sell the plane, which was put on the market in 2020, according to an archived listing. Giving it away could save Qatar’s rulers a big chunk of change on maintenance and storage costs, aviation experts told Forbes. Making Trump happy would be an added bonus.

Qatar, which has given away another blinged-out 747 and may have mothballed two more, epitomizes the fading demand for these huge, fuel-guzzling, highly personalized airplanes. There aren’t many who want to buy them, and many of the governments and royal families who own them have been trying to ditch them over the past decade.

[Edge-]

Ongoing in: Most incompetent Administration in History
The plane being a White Elephant gift is the funniest turn this saga could have taken.

Forbes: The Qataris have been trying to get rid of that ostentatious luxury jet for five years, but no one would buy it. It costs too much to fly, costs more to maintain, and needs too big a landing strip. They had another one they unloaded on Turkey.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremyb...tar-747-trump/

While many have speculated that the Qataris have offered Trump the luxurious plane to curry favor with the famously transactional president, there may be a simpler rationale: they just don’t want it anymore.

The royals have failed to sell the plane, which was put on the market in 2020, according to an archived listing. Giving it away could save Qatar’s rulers a big chunk of change on maintenance and storage costs, aviation experts told Forbes. Making Trump happy would be an added bonus.

Qatar, which has given away another blinged-out 747 and may have mothballed two more, epitomizes the fading demand for these huge, fuel-guzzling, highly personalized airplanes. There aren’t many who want to buy them, and many of the governments and royal families who own them have been trying to ditch them over the past decade.

lmao donald got regifted what nobody wanted and is so stoked by it

truly the most easily manipulated man in the world

[gondrin]

So, speaking of HHS, they are rehiring about 300 employees that they fired.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/oth...e41b7574&ei=49

The Department of Health and Human Services on Tuesday reinstated 328 federal employees who faced terminations, including those involved in screening for “black lung” disease in coal miners and for health issues in 9/11 first responders.

The reinstated employees are part of the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH), a division of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that is focused on preventing and responding to work-related illnesses.

There is more but that is the pertinent part of it. If I were any of those employees, I would really think long and hard about going to work for this administration. Because they have shown, time and time again, that they are just going to fire people because they want to, not because of any specific reason like a contract ending or something similar.

[Edge-]

So, speaking of HHS, they are rehiring about 300 employees that they fired.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/oth...e41b7574&ei=49



There is more but that is the pertinent part of it. If I were any of those employees, I would really think long and hard about going to work for this administration. Because they have shown, time and time again, that they are just going to fire people because they want to, not because of any specific reason like a contract ending or something similar.

Casual reminder for some in the thread:

Firing and re-hiring people you fired is incredibly expensive and wasteful.

[Tech614]

Casual reminder for some in the thread:

Firing and re-hiring people you fired is incredibly expensive and wasteful.

This happens when you have idiots trying to run the country like it's a fortune 500 company and they weren't even good CEOs when they where doing just that.

[Xath]

Casual reminder for some in the thread:

Firing and re-hiring people you fired is incredibly expensive and wasteful.

What republican voters don't get is government jobs are highly competitive purely due to stability if you take that away very few people will be willing to take the lower salaries.

[Poopymonster]

Casual reminder for some in the thread:

Firing and re-hiring people you fired is incredibly expensive and wasteful.

"Am I returning at my previous seniority/salary or are you rehiring me as a new hire?"
That is a very important question.

[postman1782]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kid-ro...mps-ice-raids/

Even Kid Rock knows that the ICE raids are bullshit since he closed his restaurant to avoid an ICE raid.

[Kathandira]

44% in this day and age of polarization is pretty good! Will probably continue to slowly uptick. And still way more popular than Dems.

Dope, so you openly admit that Joe Biden had pretty good approval rates? 54% by this time in 2021. Which is 10% higher than Trump at this time.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/329384/...joe-biden.aspx

You really are one dumb bastard.