Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Kaleredar]

TRUMP TAKE EGG AND BEEF.
Ground beef hit a record $5.80 per pound in April, up nearly 50% from five years ago. Ruined Memorial Day cookouts across the nation.
USDA says prices will keep climbing throughout 2025.



Planning a 4th July BBQ? Have you considered lamb shwarma?
Also, Summer fireworks face uncertain future amid rising costs and tariffs....

@Somewhatconcerned I was promised lower egg prices, now beef prices are higher as well?

What’s Trump’s plan even doing? Why haven’t prices been lowered yet?

[tehdang]

Now post a chart of Trump's approval rating in those counties once they figured out that they were lied to yet again with the same "Democrats hate the poor" horseshit that you're repeating here. Where's the bastion of perfect progressive society in places run by "Democrat supermajorities?" Nowhere. Because reality doesn't work like that. Mainly because most Democrats aren't actually progressives. What we can see, however, is the immediate and actual harm GOP policies cause to everyone without a few hundred thousand in their bank accounts. How do you think slashing every social program under the sun in order to give that money to the super wealthy is going to help the people who were absolutely fucking stupid enough to vote red in 2024? Explain it in detail.

You can say the Democrats are out of touch or that their messaging is awful all you like, and plenty of people will agree. When juxtaposed with the naked malice displayed by Republicans towards the vast majority of US citizens, I have no idea why you think that matters.

It's in the part you didn't quote:

It's active incompetence in Democratic policymaking, Democratic messaging, and Democratic cultural production. Republicans don't deserve much credit.

It's the party with 27% approval. Don't be them and you'll get votes.
Take it from a Colorado Democratic Representative.

First off, just the language of the plan shows a disconnect--who even talks like this when crafting a plan to broaden the coalition. But it's damn right on the moralizing tone. The "virality" a bit less so.

NYT has the argument on that, and I heartily recommend the links and my quoted sections from it.

[Doomcookie]

AI that steals copyrighted works. This covers all of the current LLM models that people are so excited about.

Its a dumb regulation. It would effectively kill LLM models as they exist

So, you're opposed to copyright and trademark laws?

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A staffer (allegedly) shoving an employee over a photograph is "forcing his way into Arlington cemetery?" Yikes! Yes, I have to remember how libs transmute things.

You are lying.

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If its unlawful you can always sue under existing laws that regulate the activity. No need for new laws.

Laws can simply be re-worded in order to cover new technology.

Are you mad that they made laws prosecuting people who download and distribute child porn?

Fromt he sound of it, you seem to be pro-kiddie porn. Are you pro-kiddie porn?

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Just so we are clear you want new laws that would make it easier for people to be eligible for class action lawsuits? Or do you want a new law that would make it easier for people to sue in general and reduce the threshold for judgements. Notice how we are debating these things in a court. How certain implications of any new law would need to be debated in court extensively?



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Code generation tools are an incredibly useful product that has revolutionized the way developer work is being done. Thats just one use case, with many more to come. Have you tried using these tools? They are super useful. I wouldnt be surprised if the law industry and finance industry arent being rocked by the technology right now or the next few years as those super easy catches for LLMs to do.

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Doesnt this highlight the issue tho? Corporate power coopting leftist movements and grievances in order to seek more profits. Leftists dont write the regulations but they provide the intellectual backbone and people support for them. In the case of Nuclear, they provided the weapons to the oil industry to destroy nuclear. In the case of AI they are providing the tools to large copyright holders like getty images to destroy AI and get more profits

So leftists are at best useful fools.

So, about your stance on child pornography being illegal?

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Are you guys building an LLM model from zero or using an existing model and customizing it for in house use? Like I use a personalized version of LLAMA. If you cant answer cuz you signed a confidential agreement thats fine.

But using customer data is very diff than feeding it books too, moreso if its a finance thing. Thats personal financial data which is heavily protected for various other reasons that are not simply to stop the AI company from profiting.

How much of your professional work do you think should be taken from you without your permission?

[Breccia]

Trump gives pardon to reality TV hosts convicted of fraud and tax evasion.

This is what @tehdang voted for on purpose. He's fine with cuts to Medicare and Medicaid and has said so on multiple occasions. Each post he doesn't respond to this, he's also announcing that reality TV is more important than law and order. And I reserve the right to quote him as saying such.

[btlcryct]

He's back on the 51st state thing again:

https://x.com/DailyNewsJustIn/status...774960/photo/1

[Edge-]

Trump gives pardon to reality TV hosts convicted of fraud and tax evasion.

This is what @tehdang voted for on purpose. He's fine with cuts to Medicare and Medicaid and has said so on multiple occasions. Each post he doesn't respond to this, he's also announcing that reality TV is more important than law and order. And I reserve the right to quote him as saying such.

Todd and Julie, who became famous on the reality series "Chrisley Knows Best," were convicted of conspiring to defraud community banks out of more than $30 million in fraudulent loans as well as tax evasion and sentenced to 12 and seven years respectively.

It's important to note: These are genuinely bad people.

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He's back on the 51st state thing again:

https://x.com/DailyNewsJustIn/status...774960/photo/1

just like he negotiated the ceasefire between india and pakistan that both nations later said he had literally nothing to do with, i bet

[Tech614]

@Somewhatconcerned I was promised lower egg prices, now beef prices are higher as well?

What’s Trump’s plan even doing? Why haven’t prices been lowered yet?

The only thing that is going to lower beef prices at this point is more people becoming vegetarians. Demand rises and cattle numbers are stagnant or even declining.

So Trump better start convincing MAGAs to stop eating beef if he wants the prices to go down.

Meanwhile, this idiot is mad that EU won't buy our beef when domestic demand is already skyrocketing prices.

[SAY HER NAME]

That sheriff getting a pardon by Trump is unhinged. Literally the most corrupt person I read about so far. This is another scenario in which I have to ask, where does he find these people to pardon?

[Breccia]

Meanwhile, this idiot is mad that EU won't buy our beef when domestic demand is already skyrocketing prices.

Yes, it's like a disease. Some disease that makes you mad about cows. There should be a name for that.

Demand being high is one thing, but there's no pressure to start new farms for either beef or the things beef eats. Not only are his unilateral tariffs hurting farmers, but his rampant slashing of federal funds plus lack of a plan is hurting existing farmers. I do not know of anything Trump has started that would directly help farmers, other than letting egg companies rake in record profits while he bought them from overseas.

[Bwgmon]

He's back on the 51st state thing again:

https://x.com/DailyNewsJustIn/status...774960/photo/1

I think my favorite thing is you know that that exchange almost definitely had Canada saying "Yeah, sure, we'll get back to you on that" while making the jerkoff motion on the other end.

[postman1782]

Of "the President" "forced his way into" "a public cemetery," everything is wrong except for "a public cemetery." This matters if you want to make reference to a controversy, or draw conclusions, or ask opinions. A staffer is alleged to have pushed an employee in a photography-related incident. It's pretty simple to not call that Trump forcing his way into a public cemetery, but that bar was not cleared.

The fucking area he took pictures in, he was LEGALLY not allowed to.

[gondrin]

Trump gives pardon to reality TV hosts convicted of fraud and tax evasion.

This is what @tehdang voted for on purpose. He's fine with cuts to Medicare and Medicaid and has said so on multiple occasions. Each post he doesn't respond to this, he's also announcing that reality TV is more important than law and order. And I reserve the right to quote him as saying such.

This is honestly something Trump has been oddly consistent with. If you look at the people he pardoned at the end of his first term, the vast majority of them were white collar criminals that conned people out of a LOT of money that were also somewhat or really famous.

People that committed small, non-violent offenses or not famous? Sorry, nothing for you.

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Of "the President" "forced his way into" "a public cemetery," everything is wrong except for "a public cemetery." This matters if you want to make reference to a controversy, or draw conclusions, or ask opinions. A staffer is alleged to have pushed an employee in a photography-related incident. It's pretty simple to not call that Trump forcing his way into a public cemetery, but that bar was not cleared.

There are areas of Arlington Cemetery that are off-limits to any kind of photography. When the staff refused to let him and his team in because of that, they actively forced themselves past said staff. So yes, that is "forcing himself" into a public cemetery because of the fact it was off-limits to said activities.

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Hey, Michigan wants to shut down a coal power plant within their state because it isn't needed anymore. Trump thought otherwise.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...70486aca&ei=29

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Hey, Michigan wants to shut down a coal power plant within their state because it isn't needed anymore. Trump thought otherwise.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...70486aca&ei=29

"states rights" except all those times republicans don't actually believe that (which is whenever it's not convenient for them like this)

[gondrin]

So, where the North Carolina State Supreme Court Justice loser Jefferson Griffin left off, Trump decided to take command of and is suing the state of North Carolina for not keeping accurate voter rolls.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...7f75e8dd&ei=40

[Breccia]

So, where the North Carolina State Supreme Court Justice loser Jefferson Griffin left off, Trump decided to take command of and is suing the state of North Carolina for not keeping accurate voter rolls.

I'm looking forward to the judge just reading the complaint and saying "This doesn't affect you" and summarily tossing it.

[gondrin]

So, Trump is upsetting Texas ranchers who support him. Why?

Because he is basically attacking clean energy which they actually like and basically tells them that they cannot have said clean energy type stuff on their property, like wind turbines and such things.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...1b602236&ei=17

The Guardian reports a GOP intraparty fight is breaking out in Texas between struggling Texas ranchers and the lumbering might of big oil.

Former Republican state lawmaker, rancher and a steadfast Donald Trump supporter John Davis says he’s become horrified at his party’s assault upon clean energy, which is exploding in Texas as local oil fields run dry. The Guardian reports a volley of state bills pushed by the legislature’s Republican majority is threatening to reverse the state’s position as a clean energy superpower. Many of these bills, like SB819, call for the “police power of the state” to suppress new wind and solar projects by requiring onerous permits not required for gas, coal or nuclear plants.

“I’ve heard from many constituents with valid concerns regarding the reckless installation of these facilities,” said Lois Kolkhorst, a Texas state senator and a SB819 sponsor who considers herself a “lifelong wildlife conservationist.”

Using Trump’s claims of extensive damage to birds and wildlife, the legislation imposes meticulous “wildlife assessments” around the turbine site, and it requires builders “adapt operations … to minimize facility effects on bats, birds, and other wildlife.”

Davis is dubious of the claims. “See any dead birds here? I’ve never seen one,” he told the Guardian while standing beneath one of seven wind turbines on his property churning out new revenue for his ranch.

“We’re supposed to be the party of common sense but we’ve shifted to be like the Democrats and that is what makes me mad. When you tell me what to do on my own property that sounds more like a Democrat,” Davis added. “Some of the bills they are trying to pass would kill renewables.”

The Texas bills hit just as Trump is tamping down renewable on the federal level, barring major clean energy projects from federal lands and waters. “We’re going to try to have a policy where no windmills are being built,” said Trump.

“It’s not productive or helpful when [Trump] spouts off like that,” said Brandon Corbin, a local Republican county judge who supports a proposed battery facility in the county that could add as much as 30 percent new revenue to Menard County’s overstretched budget. “We are the ones on the ground here and he says and does things that puts fear and uncertainty out.”

[Captain N]

"The GOP is telling me how to run things on my property and that sounds like a Democrat....That means I need to vote more extreme Republicans who won't act like the Democrats!" -Texas Ranchers in 2026-

[btlcryct]

I think my favorite thing is you know that that exchange almost definitely had Canada saying "Yeah, sure, we'll get back to you on that" while making the jerkoff motion on the other end.

I so hope that's the case!

[Templar 331]

So, Trump is upsetting Texas ranchers who support him. Why?

Because he is basically attacking clean energy which they actually like and basically tells them that they cannot have said clean energy type stuff on their property, like wind turbines and such things.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...1b602236&ei=17

I just got back from a road trip around the U.S. and drove through some of Texas. I was surprised to find as many if not more wind turbines as oil rigs. Often times near each other! I also saw quite a few oil rigs no longer in use.

[gondrin]

I just got back from a road trip around the U.S. and drove through some of Texas. I was surprised to find as many if not more wind turbines as oil rigs. Often times near each other! I also saw quite a few oil rigs no longer in use.

While a lot of ranchers are conservative, those same ranchers are also conservationists and understand that the land is their way of life and have to save it. Not saying all but there are a lot of them that love green energy projects like wind, solar and others.