Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Moralgy]

I'll admit, 'Mediocre Musk' isn't his finest work, but it's honestly a struggle to top Meatball Ron.

Wonder how long until Republicans suddenly want to deport those immigrants that they just spent weeks race baiting over.

[Edge-]

I'll admit, 'Mediocre Musk' isn't his finest work, but it's honestly a struggle to top Meatball Ron.

i thought he only hired the best people?

why is he admitting that he knowingly hired and retained on staff a guy who was constantly high on drugs?

i mean, can we just take a moment, here?

donald

the president

is saying that the guy he hired and put in charge of doge

the guy he praised constantly

was also constantly high on illegal drugs while working in the white house under donald trump

when is this being investigated? i hear doing illegal drugs is a crime, and it's probably like, extra criminal to do it on federal property like the white house

when will media ask about this?

seriously though

this is important

the president of the united states is saying he knew one of his staffers was high on illegal drugs while working out of the white house, meeting with world leaders, hanging around his young child, and seeing classified materials and government data

this feels like...a scandal?

[DarkTZeratul]

While possible, this is more of that "Trump is really playing 4D chess" kind of logic Trumpers have pushed for years.

Occams Razor is a good test here:
Are Trump and Musk, two wealthy, arrogant, self-obsessed individuals having a public spat?
Or are Trump and Musk playing a clever game of 4D chess, decieving everyone into thinking theyre enemies just to help cover more of Trumps bullshittery. A skill neither has been shown to have before?

Also, the fact that it's already cost Tesla $150 billion in market value, which would make it an extraordinarily expensive distraction.

[Fugus]

Mediocre Musk…. The man’s last name is a synonym for Sweat stink and that was the best he could do….

African Musk
Butt Musk
Ball Musk

That’s just off the top of my head. So many possibilities with that one.

[gondrin]

So, here it is. The man this administration has said "They could not return.", that "They were not able to return" and that they "Had no ability to demand his return" is being returned to the United States to have his day in court. If he gets deported after his day in court, so be it.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/06/polit...-abrego-garcia

Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the Maryland man mistakenly deported to El Salvador in March, will be returned to the US, where he will face federal criminal charges, a law enforcement source told CNN.

For months, the Trump administration has been locked in an intense standoff with the federal judiciary over court orders for the government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s return from El Salvador, where he was mistakenly deported in mid-March, in a situation that one federal judge warned could present an “incipient crisis” between the two branches.

Abrego Garcia has been indicted on two criminal counts in the in the Middle District of Tennessee: conspiracy to unlawfully transport illegal aliens for financial gain and unlawful transportation of illegal aliens for financial gain.

The indictment unsealed Friday afternoon accuses Abrego Garcia and others of partaking in a conspiracy in recent years in which they “knowingly and unlawfully transported thousands of undocumented aliens who had no authorization to be present in the United States, and many of whom were MS-13 members and associates.”

The administration’s posture and legal arguments in the case had consistently frustrated both conservative and liberal jurists alike, who raised alarm bells about officials’ apparent disregard for due process rights given their cavalier response to the deportation, which several different administration lawyers described as an “administrative error” that they were powerless to rectify.

In April, for instance, Attorney General Pam Bondi said Abrego Garcia “is not coming back to our country.”

“President Bukele said he was not sending him back. That’s the end of the story. If he wanted to send him back, we would give him a plane ride back,” she said.

But Abrego Garcia’s forthcoming return is far from a guarantee that he will remain in the US long-term. The administration’s decision to deport him to a notorious mega-prison in El Salvador violated a 2019 order from a judge that said he could not be deported to his home country because of fears that he would face gang violence. That mandate, however, did not preclude the government from removing him to a third country.

Officials have previously said if he were returned to the US, they may deport him to another country or attempt to wipe away the 2019 order. The administration has alleged that Abrego Garcia is a member of the MS-13 gang, which the government has designated as a foreign terrorist organization, though his attorneys have disputed that claim.

US District Judge Paula Xinis has allowed a fact-finding process to unfold so she can figure out what the government has been doing to comply with her directive that officials bring Abrego Garcia back to the US. But the case had largely faded into the background in recent weeks as that discovery process has dragged on mostly out of public view.

[Sunseeker]

Also, the fact that it's already cost Tesla $150 billion in market value, which would make it an extraordinarily expensive distraction.

And a distraction that only benefits Trump. I suppose one could argue that Musks benefit is being welcomed with open arms by Democrat elites, possibly a more favorable view by his primary American market (middle class white collar liberals who REALLY wanted to buy a Tesla). But wed see the latter in stock valuation increases.

So what, Musk is self-destructing for Trumps benefit? I mean, its not like others havent done that, but it seems...unlikely.

[Edge-]

So, here it is. The man this administration has said "They could not return.", that "They were not able to return" and that they "Had no ability to demand his return" is being returned to the United States to have his day in court. If he gets deported after his day in court, so be it.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/06/polit...-abrego-garcia

so who from the government gets held in contempt for spending months fighting a lawful court order and lying to the courts about their inability to bring him back?

[Zaydin]

So, here it is. The man this administration has said "They could not return.", that "They were not able to return" and that they "Had no ability to demand his return" is being returned to the United States to have his day in court. If he gets deported after his day in court, so be it.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/06/polit...-abrego-garcia

The charges feel trumped up to me. After all, if they knew about it all this time, why wait until now to tell anyone?

[gondrin]

The charges feel trumped up to me. After all, if they knew about it all this time, why wait until now to tell anyone?

Because, as someone else put it, if he gets let off, Trump and his sycophants can just blame it on activist judges and drum up even more outrage against the judiciary. They want to completely delegitimize it.

[Kaleredar]

I think ya’ll are giving two petty, prissy jerks with clear mental issues faaaaar too much credit over “orchestrating” this.

These two (Trump moreso and especially) thrive off of chaos and petty drama that erodes oversight and confidence in a general sort of way, which they then benefit from in a general sort of way. They don’t need to “intend” it, their habits of being narcissistic, incompetent liars just sort of cause it to happen. It’s a positive feedback loop of stupid.

[tehdang]

So, here it is. The man this administration has said "They could not return.", that "They were not able to return" and that they "Had no ability to demand his return" is being returned to the United States to have his day in court. If he gets deported after his day in court, so be it.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/06/polit...-abrego-garcia

Good. Charge him with human trafficking as part of his MS-13 gang activities. Confront the country with the MS-13 association that they've tried very hard to ignore, included being detained transporting illegal aliens from Texas to Tennessee.

Also, get a statement from Bukele on the circumstances of his release.

[postman1782]

Good. Charge him with human trafficking as part of his MS-13 gang activities. Confront the country with the MS-13 association that they've tried very hard to ignore, included being detained transporting illegal aliens from Texas to Tennessee.

Also, get a statement from Bukele on the circumstances of his release.

HE ISN'T FUCKING MS-13, that has been fucking proven. There is also no evidence he was trafficking anyone either.

[Edge-]

Good. Charge him with human trafficking as part of his MS-13 gang activities.

Interesting framing given that this has never been proven in a court of law.

[gondrin]

Good. Charge him with human trafficking as part of his MS-13 gang activities. Confront the country with the MS-13 association that they've tried very hard to ignore, included being detained transporting illegal aliens from Texas to Tennessee.

Also, get a statement from Bukele on the circumstances of his release.

So, if it is shown in a court of law that there is evidence of him being MS-13 and the like, great. Deport him and call it a day.

However, what excuse will you make if there is no evidence showing any of what he is being accused of? Are you still going to argue that he should be deported when there is no evidence to show that he should be deported?

[btlcryct]

SCOTUS has given the DOGEboys the all-clear to steal our data:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/06/polit...-security-data

[Edge-]

SCOTUS has given the DOGEboys the all-clear to steal our data:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/06/polit...-security-data

conservatives all over america want a king so fucking bad, god damn, man.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Good. Charge him with human trafficking as part of his MS-13 gang activities. Confront the country with the MS-13 association that they've tried very hard to ignore, included being detained transporting illegal aliens from Texas to Tennessee.

Also, get a statement from Bukele on the circumstances of his release.

Maybe you should confront yourself with the fact that they have yet to prove any actual MS-13 association.

I know you guys really don't like the whole "due process" thing but a big part of that is the whole "presumption of innocence" deal.

[Edge-]

Maybe you should confront yourself with the fact that they have yet to prove any actual MS-13 association.

I know you guys really don't like the whole "due process" thing but a big part of that is the whole "presumption of innocence" deal.

well you see

he's brown

[david0925]

Just report him. Eventually it will get to a mod that's not his main account

[Kaleredar]

Good. Charge him with human trafficking as part of his MS-13 gang activities. Confront the country with the MS-13 association that they've tried very hard to ignore, included being detained transporting illegal aliens from Texas to Tennessee.

Also, get a statement from Bukele on the circumstances of his release.

If it was such a slam-dunk why did they deny him due process in the first place?

Why is following the law so difficult for the Trump administration?