Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Xyonai]

Yeah, it was nice to watch that. Messenging has always been a problem for the left, its good he got out to do this. He looks presidential eh? He might be practicing.
Now, would be great to see half-a-dozen more prominent liberals do the same and stand up to trump, and stop relying on Seth Meyers and Rachel Maddow to do it for them.

For petty reasons I'm annoyed that Trump's dipshit vendetta against people he dislikes might turn Gavin Fuckin' Newsom into the Democratic party's Defacto leader as a symbol of defiance against Trump. One shitty guy looking marginally less shitty against the actual petulant fascist.

I'm glad Newsom's fighting, though. And I hope this skirmish with Trump makes him reconsider the 'Maybe embracing the right-of-center -is- what we need to focus on' shit he's been doubling down on lately.

[Kaleredar]

For petty reasons I'm annoyed that Trump's dipshit vendetta against people he dislikes might turn Gavin Fuckin' Newsom into the Democratic party's Defacto leader as a symbol of defiance against Trump. One shitty guy looking marginally less shitty against the actual petulant fascist.

I'm glad Newsom's fighting, though. And I hope this skirmish with Trump makes him reconsider the 'Maybe embracing the right-of-center -is- what we need to focus on' shit he's been doubling down on lately.

Newsom’s prime shortcomings as a candidate are that he’s from California. The premiere “hated because it’s the most popular kid” state and with all of its EV votes already invariably going blue.

Republicans have long worked to paint California as being a failed liberal dystopia (despite being the wealthiest state in the union by a wide margin) because of “regulation and taxation,” something that would be easy ammunition to put voters from other states off because California is perceived as being an extremely expensive state (which, it is, but it’s not actually the most expensive state to live in) that siphons people’s money to.. I dunno, keep people homeless, or something. A bad “perception” going in.


On the “plus” side he’s not a geriatric old man and he can string a sentence together, so just from an optics standpoint he’s got trump beat there. But if newsom is the nominee, he (much like Hillary had in a different way) will have a lot of built-in baggage to overcome from the Republican shriekboxes.

[s_bushido]

For petty reasons I'm annoyed that Trump's dipshit vendetta against people he dislikes might turn Gavin Fuckin' Newsom into the Democratic party's Defacto leader as a symbol of defiance against Trump. One shitty guy looking marginally less shitty against the actual petulant fascist.

I guess I always assumed Newsom was going to be the next person the DNC elevated to the head at some point anyway. This would just do nothing but accelerate the process. /shrug

[DarkTZeratul]

I guess I always assumed Newsom was going to be the next person the DNC elevated to the head at some point anyway. This would just do nothing but accelerate the process. /shrug

I think it's safe to say he'll be *a* primary candidate, for sure. The DNC leadership may have their favorite(s), but they have CONSIDERABLY less power to "elevate them to the head" than a lot of people seem to think they do. Primaries not infrequently shake out in very different ways than people expect going in, and predictions made THIS far out almost never amount to anything.

[Xath]

I think it's safe to say he'll be *a* primary candidate, for sure. The DNC leadership may have their favorite(s), but they have CONSIDERABLY less power to "elevate them to the head" than a lot of people seem to think they do. Primaries not infrequently shake out in very different ways than people expect going in, and predictions made THIS far out almost never amount to anything.

They really don't is what people don't get. The only reason that Hillary's primary was even semi competitive is because Bernie was an independent and wasn't relying on the DNC for personnel or funding. The first dem debate had 5 people 2 of whom would drop put soon after. If ypur name wasn't Clinton you got nothing from the party in that primary.

[En Sabah Nur]

As we all know, you have to constantly repeat the lie for people to start taking it as the truth. So expect to hear this exact same thing a few more times.

[s_bushido]

As we all know, you have to constantly repeat the lie for people to start taking it as the truth. So expect to hear this exact same thing a few more times.

Well, as we all know, most major cities in the US already burnt to the ground during the Great 2020 Race Riots, so everyone should be used to having to rebuild from the ashes by now.

[Gabriel]

I've just been watching the Daredevil Reborn series from the start for the first time, and I'm astonished how closely the plot resembles what is going on in real life right now.

[Draco-Onis]

Newsom’s prime shortcomings as a candidate are that he’s from California. The premiere “hated because it’s the most popular kid” state and with all of its EV votes already invariably going blue.

Republicans have long worked to paint California as being a failed liberal dystopia (despite being the wealthiest state in the union by a wide margin) because of “regulation and taxation,” something that would be easy ammunition to put voters from other states off because California is perceived as being an extremely expensive state (which, it is, but it’s not actually the most expensive state to live in) that siphons people’s money to.. I dunno, keep people homeless, or something. A bad “perception” going in.


On the “plus” side he’s not a geriatric old man and he can string a sentence together, so just from an optics standpoint he’s got trump beat there. But if newsom is the nominee, he (much like Hillary had in a different way) will have a lot of built-in baggage to overcome from the Republican shriekboxes.

I don't think Newsom is the candidate for the moment, he is another milk toast centrist if you look at his views and record. He was just showering extreme right wingers with praise on his podcast in the name of "bipartisanship". If we have an election and he wins I can guarantee you a Trump like figure will replace him within 4 years. We need a candidate that will address the malaise in this country that never went away after the 2008 financial crisis not to mention hold people to account for what they did during the Trump administration. Gavin Newsom simply does not have the balls or motivation to do what needs to be done.

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As we all know, you have to constantly repeat the lie for people to start taking it as the truth. So expect to hear this exact same thing a few more times.

Apparently the people in California need to advise armed forces around the world because they have enough destructive power to burn the second largest city in America to the ground in a matter of days. On a somewhat positive note this primal scream he keeps repeating just shows that he knows that this isn't playing well like he thought it would.

[Kaleredar]

I've just been watching the Daredevil Reborn series from the start for the first time, and I'm astonished how closely the plot resembles what is going on in real life right now.

Ditto andor season 2.

And then realize that these things were written months, potentially even a year+, ago.

[Edge-]

Apparently the people in California need to advise armed forces around the world because they have enough destructive power to burn the second largest city in America to the ground in a matter of days. On a somewhat positive note this primal scream he keeps repeating just shows that he knows that this isn't playing well like he thought it would.

didn't you know LA is like, 2 square blocks? that's all of LA, everyone lives there.

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https://www.npr.org/2025/06/11/nx-s1...ect-landscapes

Lawyers for President Donald Trump's administration say he has the authority to abolish national monuments meant to protect historical and archaeological sites across broad landscapes, including two in California created by his predecessor at the request of Native American tribes.

A Justice Department legal opinion released Tuesday disavowed a 1938 determination that monuments created by previous presidents under the Antiquities Act can't be revoked. The department said presidents can cancel monument designations if protections aren't warranted.

The finding comes as the Interior Department under Trump weighs changes to monuments across the nation as part of the administration's push to expand U.S. energy production.

Sen. Martin Heinrich of New Mexico, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Natural Resources Committee, said that at Trump's order, "his Justice Department is attempting to clear a path to erase national monuments."

Trump in his first term reduced the size of Bears Ears and Grand Staircase Escalante National Monuments in Utah, calling them a "massive land grab." He also lifted fishing restrictions within a sprawling marine monument off the New England Coast.

Donald and Republicans want to destroy our beautiful national monuments and national wonders.

Again.

It's so weird to think that at one point consevatives in America actually gave a shit about the outdoors and nature and the environment. I miss that.

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https://www.npr.org/2025/06/11/nx-s1...ld-class-hater

under pressure from the white house, ABC cancels Terry Moran because Republicans love cancel culture so fucking much.

Dude spoke the truth, which is what journalists are supposed to do. ABC can get fucked.

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A new survey that probes the level of trust Democrats and Republicans have for news sources finds the business-oriented publications Forbes and The Wall Street Journal share an unusual distinction: They’re the only two of 30 news sources that sympathizers for both parties told the Pew Research Center they’re more likely to trust than distrust.

Pew’s survey, released Tuesday, illustrates how the country’s political polarization has members of both parties in different media silos. Democrats trust more news sources than Republicans, and rarely do their tastes intersect.

Of 30 news sources tested, people who said they were Republican or leaned Republican were more likely to say they trust eight of them. Democrats had more trust than distrust for 23 different sources. Forbes and The Wall Street Journal were the only two on both lists.

There were only two news sources tested that more than three in 10 Republicans said they were likely to trust — Fox News Channel, with 56%, and the Joe Rogan podcast, with 31%.

Meanwhile, 13 of the sources had trust levels of more than 30% among Democrats — the three broadcast news divisions, PBS, CNN, BBC, The New York Times, The Associated Press, MSNBC, National Public Radio, USA Today, The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal.

https://apnews.com/article/media-new...b1ffc09838d825

holy fucking shit 3 in 10 Republicans actually treat Joe fucking Rogan as a news source?

Fox we knew, but Joe fucking Rogan?

This explains so much. So, so much.

Speaking of, when is Greg Abbott going to go after known smoker of the marijuana, which is illegal in the state of Texas, Joe Rogan?

[alach]

Newsom is looking like exactly what the democrats need now, someone standing up to trump. Polls have shown over the last couple years the dems really want a fighter and a leader, and he's showing can be. Sure, he comes across swarmy and the progresives dont like his policies but at this point, he looks like the guy to take on Maga and win. I would suggest him and AOC but trump would blast liberal coastal elite all over that.

[Edge-]

Newsom is looking like exactly what the democrats need now, someone standing up to trump. Polls have shown over the last couple years the dems really want a fighter and a leader, and he's showing can be. Sure, he comes across swarmy and the progresives dont like his policies but at this point, he looks like the guy to take on Maga and win. I would suggest him and AOC but trump would blast liberal coastal elite all over that.

donald is a fucking coastal elite homeboy lived in NYC and now lives in FL, both coastal states roflmao

but anyways maybe we need a bit of coastal elitism after this rampant DUI administration of unqualified racists and fascists

[alach]

donald is a fucking coastal elite homeboy lived in NYC and now lives in FL, both coastal states roflmao

but anyways maybe we need a bit of coastal elitism after this rampant DUI administration of unqualified racists and fascists

I agree.
Historians will research for decades in the future how a reality show celebrity business man and star of the yellow tabloids from New York convinced half the country he was just like them.

[Breccia]

As we all know, you have to constantly repeat the lie for people to start taking it as the truth. So expect to hear this exact same thing a few more times.

"If I didn't murder that old lady, she would have poisoned an entire school district!"

[Tech614]

Newsom is looking like exactly what the democrats need now, someone standing up to trump. Polls have shown over the last couple years the dems really want a fighter and a leader, and he's showing can be. Sure, he comes across swarmy and the progresives dont like his policies but at this point, he looks like the guy to take on Maga and win. I would suggest him and AOC but trump would blast liberal coastal elite all over that.

Newsom is a jekyll and hyde, he's not progressive by any stretch but much like Biden will sometimes back progressive measures which is more than you can say for other neolibs.

Still skeptical that you can get midwest and sunbelt swing state voters to vote for a dude that oozes bay area wine tasting snob from every fiber of his being. Maybe if he go's full Trump and just starts personal attacking republicans, but it took Trump insulting him for days for him to even finally do this so I don't expect that.

I also don't know how AOC is a "coastal elite" when she was waiting tables for a living during her initial campaign. Republicans trying to attack her with that after having Trump as their god king would be fucking hysterical. Newsom is certainly a coastal elite but AOC is what republicans are supposed to admire or so they say. An actual self made person. Unlike the nepo babies they chose to worship in Trump and Musk.

[Breccia]

Looks like the inflation report says Trump directly added 0.1% inflation by his direct actions taken in public on purpose. It would have been higher, except he's a coward and TACO'd the fuck out. Expect the cultists to crow that inflation dropped in June due to him removing the tariffs he personally added...or, expect inflation to stay the same because companies just raised prices because they'd been given the option. Either way, Trump did worse than nothing.

[Belize]

Newsom is looking like exactly what the democrats need now, someone standing up to trump. Polls have shown over the last couple years the dems really want a fighter and a leader, and he's showing can be. Sure, he comes across swarmy and the progresives dont like his policies but at this point, he looks like the guy to take on Maga and win. I would suggest him and AOC but trump would blast liberal coastal elite all over that.

I mean, Dems tried down to earth regular guy VP pick with Walz and it did nothing to move the needle, so like, fuck it Coastal Elite it is.

[Xyonai]

I mean, Dems tried down to earth regular guy VP pick with Walz and it did nothing to move the needle, so like, fuck it Coastal Elite it is.

From my observation, the Harris campaign was at its best when they let Walz just say shit and smack talk Republicans and only began to simmer into luke-warm when they took him out of the lime-light, refused to engage with or push back against Conservative smear campaigns, and double downed on trying to court the center-right.

Even if not someone with Walz's background, it's clear the voters like someone with his fire and enthusiasm.

[Edge-]

https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabba...arning-2083857

Why is DNI Tulsi "Russian Agent" Gabbard talking about nuclear winter?

This is incredibly comforting and not at all deepy concerning and alarming.

Is donald considering using nukes?

also does tulsi know she's one of those "political elites" she blames? it's wild how republicans nowadays seem to lack any sense of self-awareness