Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Xath]

Not really, Trump has hurt the US more than China but also hurt China a little bit with his shit.

-No sign of researchers choosing China over EU
-No sign of Japan, South Korea, Vietnam and Taiwan wanting US military away from them.

Some of ya'll don't seem to really understand China's goals. It's not for the US to turn into a turd, it's for the US to be less powerful than China but still a great customer for them. It's almost like you heard of China's goals from Trump himself. Nothing Trump has done has directly benefitted China yet, it only made the US look like idiots.

Trumps attack on higher learning is the one thing that could possibly benefit China, but we don't have concrete facts to say it's doing that yet and not just making EU stronger instead.

Xi would probably rather have a dem in the oval office right now, because he knows what hes dealing with then instead of having to adjust his economic plan to account for Trump changing his mind every other month. China's goals are long term and US is a falling empire regardless, he would probably much rather have the stable path to their goals than the massive destabilizing one.

TLDR: China is not Russia.

EU is choosing CN over the US, China is offering blanket admission to scientists and ivy league students that are losing jobs or being kicked out. If you don't think there is massive brain drain going on right now then you probably believe Taco Saturday had a million attendees.

[btlcryct]

He already knows, it's been public knowledge for quite a while now, it's why he has an axe to grind with them. It was the result of Trump having a high placed and important Iranian general killed in his first presidency.

Don't remember seeing this before. Wonder if Bibi is bringing it back up so it's the latest thing Trump sees, we know he seems to only focus on whatever he saw last.

[Bwgmon]

He already knows, it's been public knowledge for quite a while now, it's why he has an axe to grind with them. It was the result of Trump having a high placed and important Iranian general killed in his first presidency.

The questions are:

1. Does he actually remember?
2. Will the progression of his brain dissolving result in the same reaction now that he's reminded?

EDIT: 3. Will he feel "pressured" to send the Army somewhere to show "how strong it is" after people laughed at their parade?

[tehdang]

He literally tried to have a military parade last time he was in office and was told don't be an idiot.

That's why I said, "So something that didn't work on a different anniversary works on the 250th anniversary, and this scares and frightens you." I agree with you that it made no sense on some random anniversary, but you have to be one giant hater to deny the army that on a 250th. Come off it now. Just because Trump says it's a nice day doesn't force you to say it sucked.

Navy's is in October, so try not to be such a giant hater just because of who's the president when they celebrate a historic moment.

[postman1782]

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/16/min...ortman-suspect

MAGA terrorist caught.

[Edge-]

Tell the army to delay celebrating its 250th birthday because July 4th would have more people...

I mean...it clearly needed a lot more preparation time and was rushed but whatever. Maybe you enjoyed the disappointing waste of money parade, what I saw looked lame.

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https://apnews.com/article/trump-ice...e0ebeea008ee4d

Trump directs ICE to expand deportations in Democratic-run cities, undeterred by protests

Once again, Donald and Republicans set the precedent that weaponizing the office of the presidency and policymaking against political opponents is alright and fine.

I do hope Republicans remember this should Democrats ever get back into power and return the favor.

I heard Donald hasn't even called Waltz about the assassinations in his state yet, he just shit talked him.

That reminds me of that time Joe Biden did that oh wait it doesn't because Donald is a unique piece of shit to occupy the office ^_^

[Moralgy]

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/16/min...ortman-suspect

MAGA terrorist caught.

I was told he was a no kings supporter by conservatives. /s

[SAY HER NAME]

I like the no kings protest. Pretty on point, very peaceful and pretty chill all things considered. I loved that it had more people on it than Trumps wannabe dictatorship parade. I tried watching recordings of it and even the soldiers were pretty uncomfortable during the march. It was a mess and I prefer it that way. Hopefully this is the last one. That stuff belongs to countries like NK, Russia or China.

[Bwgmon]

Once again, Donald and Republicans set the precedent that weaponizing the office of the presidency and policymaking against political opponents is alright and fine.

Damn, can't believe Trump's walking into his own version of a 3-day operation with the blue states.

Well, "blue states" is maybe stretching it, considering they've been stymied by a handful of neighborhoods.

[Breccia]

He tried to do this last time too lol

I am curious: if he's the Commander-in-Chief and even @tehdang thinks July 4 would be better...why didn't Trump just order it to be July 4?

Just kidding, I'm not curious. It wouldn't have been about him, if it was July 4. Even @tehdang knows that. He'd rather die than admit it, the troll coward, but he knows it.

That said, with the parade over, Trump somehow managing to stay awake despite being old, senile, fat, retarded, and fat, Trump looked at the world's issues - the Ukraine war, the Israel and Iran issue, inflation/prices he made rise on purpose, the growing demonstrations against his illegal actions, the laughingstock he made the US on the world stage, and went with the option that was most important to him:

He went golfing.

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try not to be such a giant hater

You voted for a giant hater and you did so because he was a giant hater. This lack of defense is dismissed as hypocrisy and handwaved.

[tehdang]

I mean...it clearly needed a lot more preparation time and was rushed but whatever. Maybe you enjoyed the disappointing waste of money parade, what I saw looked lame.

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https://apnews.com/article/trump-ice...e0ebeea008ee4d

Not a big fan of the army, eh?

Once again, Donald and Republicans set the precedent that weaponizing the office of the presidency and policymaking against political opponents is alright and fine.

I do hope Republicans remember this should Democrats ever get back into power and return the favor.

I heard Donald hasn't even called Waltz about the assassinations in his state yet, he just shit talked him.

That reminds me of that time Joe Biden did that oh wait it doesn't because Donald is a unique piece of shit to occupy the office ^_^

If you hate the law hard enough, enforcing the law becomes "weaponizing the office of the presidency and policymaking against political opponents."

Biden brought in his millions of illegal immigrants thinking nothing would happen, and legal immigrants swung 40 points over to Republicans. Oops. I don't think you're getting out of this one, not for lack of setting cars on fire and waving Mexican flags. Democrats want to be the party of compassion for illegal immigrants, but I think they're the party of riots and ignoring laws they don't like. I don't envy Ken Martin's job.

[Fugus]

Off topic:

South Carolina state congressman and Moms For Liberty favorite RJ May has been caught with Child Porn….

It’s really annoying how much Republicans love to think of the children…. Especially the bulge in the pants they get while they do it.

He definitely is a man after Trumps own heart except Trump doesn’t want to watch pictures of it, he wants to be the one participating in it.

Edit: Correction, he didn’t just like trading it, he actually created some of his own… Trump would have been proud if May hadn’t got caught.

[diller]

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/16/min...ortman-suspect

MAGA terrorist caught.

Can't be true twatter keeps explaining that he's a Democrat because Waltz gave him a job.

[Dontrike]

If you hate the law hard enough, enforcing the law becomes "weaponizing the office of the presidency and policymaking against political opponents."

Biden brought in his millions of illegal immigrants thinking nothing would happen, and legal immigrants swung 40 points over to Republicans. Oops. I don't think you're getting out of this one, not for lack of setting cars on fire and waving Mexican flags. Democrats want to be the party of compassion for illegal immigrants, but I think they're the party of riots and ignoring laws they don't like. I don't envy Ken Martin's job.

You can practically hear the copy/paste from Fox News here. I hope this lady is paid to be this way, cause wasting such talents for free is a shame.

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MAGA terrorist caught.

His wife was recently caught with passports and a whole bunch of cash in the car.

ONAMIA, Minn. (FOX 9) - The wife of Vance Boelter, who is suspected in the Minnesota lawmaker shootings, was in a vehicle that was pulled over by law enforcement on Saturday. Passports and cash were found in the vehicle.
Vance Boelter's wife in vehicle involved in traffic stop

What we know:

Authorities told FOX 9 Jennifer Lynee Boelter was in a vehicle with "several other relatives" who were questioned after a traffic stop in the Onamia area in Mille Lacs County on Saturday morning.

"My office assisted law enforcement from Hennepin County on a stop near a convenience store in the city of Onamia. Our role on this stop was perimeter. We did not search or question any of the occupants. I was told by my staff who responded that the shooting suspect's wife was in the car along with several other relatives," Kyle Burton, Mille Lacs County Sheriff, told FOX 9.

The Mille Lacs County Sheriff's Office was not directly involved with searching the vehicle or questioning the occupants, but Burton said "There were a large group of investigators from several metro agencies on scene."

FOX 9 has been told that during the stop where the suspect's wife and relatives were questioned, they were found with passports and cash. Boelter's wife is not in custody, officials told FOX 9.

Boelter has been named as a suspect in the shooting that killed Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark. He's also suspected of shooting and injuring Sen. John Hoffman and his wife Yvette.

What we don't know:

It's unclear why the vehicle was stopped or if anyone was detained or arrested.
Timeline of the case

Timeline:

Here's a look at the timeline of what we know so far:
About 2 a.m. on June 14

A 911 call in Champlin was made at about 2 a.m. Saturday. Police then found that Minnesota Sen. Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, had been shot. Both Hoffman and his wife are recovering from gunshot wounds after undergoing surgery at the hospital.
3:35 a.m. June 14

Brooklyn Park police officers then "proactively" went to the home of Rep. Hortman, authorities say. It was there that they encountered the suspect, who was dressed up as an officer with a fake police vehicle. The suspect opened fire on officers, but the suspect fled. In the suspect's vehicle, authorities found a manifesto with lawmakers' names on it and papers with "No Kings" written on them.
5:30 a.m. June 14

The shelter-in-place alert was sent at 5:30 a.m. by BPPD for the 3-mile radius around the Edinburgh Golf Course.
Around 6 a.m. June 14

Vance Boelter briefly returned to a home near 49th and Fremont in Minneapolis, where he rented a room part-time. He texted two of the roommates that he had made some bad choices, he doesn't want to implicate them, and he may be dead soon. He did have vehicles at the home and broke out one of the windows, but it's unclear if he took one of those vehicles before he fled. The image of Boelter in the cowboy hat is from the surveillance cameras at this home. The renters have been allowed back inside the home.
Around 9:45 a.m. June 14

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz announced at a press conference that Hortman and her husband had died after being shot. Walz said they're "cautiously optimistic" about Hoffman and his wife's recovery.
Around 11 a.m. June 14

Authorities and Gov. Walz urged people to not attend any political rallies until the suspect is apprehended.
Around 11:30 a.m. June 14

Champlin authorities say there is no current threat to public safety in the city.
Sometime in the morning on June 14

Authorities confirmed to FOX 9 that Boelter's wife was in a vehicle that was involved in a traffic stop on Saturday morning near Onamia. FOX 9 has been told that during the stop where the suspect's wife and relatives were questioned, they were found with passports and cash. Boelter's wife is not in custody, officials told FOX 9.
Before 1 p.m. June 14

The Associated Press identified Vance Luther Boelter, 57, as the suspect. He was appointed by Gov. Mark Dayton in 2016 and then by Gov. Walz in 2019 to the nonpartisan workforce development board. His term expired in 2023.
About 1:30 p.m. June 14

Police clear the scene at Hoffman's house in Champlin.
Around 1:45 p.m. June 14

Police served a search warrant at a home near 49th and Fremont in Minneapolis in connection with the investigation. Authorities used battering rams to get inside. Those who are renting the home told FOX 9 Boelter was a part-time renter of a room in the home.
Around 2 p.m. on June 14

Law enforcement in Green Isle sent tactical units to a home about 5 miles southeast of town as part of the manhunt to find Boelter. Boelter has a home in Green Isle.
3 p.m. on June 14

Authorities named Vance Boelter as a "person of interest" and suspect in the case, and asked for the public's help in locating him.
3:03 p.m. on June 14

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz ordered all U.S. and Minnesota flags to fly at half-staff at all state buildings in Minnesota to honor and remember Melissa Hortman. Individuals and businesses are encouraged to do the same, a press release said.

"Today Minnesota lost a great leader. A formidable public servant and a fixture of the state Capitol, Melissa Hortman woke up every day determined to make our state a better place," said Gov. Walz. "She served the people of Minnesota with grace, compassion, and tirelessness. Minnesota’s thoughts are with her loved ones."
3:20 p.m. on June 14

Brooklyn Park authorities have cleared the shelter-in-place order. But an alert sent to people living in the area asks people to call 911 if you see something suspicious. Police will still be in the area collecting evidence. Meanwhile, Mercy Hospital remains on lockdown.
3:50 p.m. on June 14

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner released the initial reports for the Hortmans, saying Melissa Hortman, 55, and Mark Hortman, 58, both died of multiple gunshot wounds. A time of death was not listed, but the report says Mark Hortman died at North Memorial Hospital, while Melissa Hortman died at her home.
4 p.m. on June 14

The FBI is offering a $50,000 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Vance Boelter.
9 p.m. on June 14

FOX 9 confirmed Yvette Hoffman is awake and alert following the shooting.
7 a.m. on June 15

The manhunt for Vance Boelter continues into day 2.
10:50 a.m. on June 15

An emergency alert was issued in Sibley County after Boelter's vehicle was found near Minnesota Highway 25 and 301 Avenue in Faxon Township. The suspect was not located.

[Edge-]

Not a big fan of the army, eh?

What makes you think that? I think they deserve a better celebration than that tacky parade "Sponsored by Coinbase", personally. But that's just me.

If you hate the law hard enough

What the literal fuck are you reading are you hallucinating?

[SunspotAnims]

Biden brought in his millions of illegal immigrants thinking nothing would happen, and legal immigrants swung 40 points over to Republicans. Oops. I don't think you're getting out of this one, not for lack of setting cars on fire and waving Mexican flags. Democrats want to be the party of compassion for illegal immigrants, but I think they're the party of riots and ignoring laws they don't like. I don't envy Ken Martin's job.

Holy hell no wonder you always dodge whenever anyone asks for your honest opinion. You might slip up and let everyone know how deluded you are.

Stick to deflecting on every topic, lmao.

[Breccia]

Not a big fan of the army, eh?

Disingenuous post. Shame on you. It wasn't the Army's idea to throw the parade, it was Trump's, and it was a dismal failure. This is very much like saying "not liking a single police officer who murdered an unarmed citizen means you don't like any policemen ever".

If you hate the law hard enough

You voted for a felon rapist terrorist. You have negative weight here. Your lack of defense is hypocrisy and handwaved.

[Mayhem]

What the literal fuck are you reading are you hallucinating?

All of the time. Most of his posts are non-answers or trying to bring in entirely different topics to compare because they have nothing left, nothing.

"This was a lame parade for the 250th birthday"

"Not a fan of the army?"

It literally makes no sense to ask that question.

[Kaleredar]

Holy hell no wonder you always dodge whenever anyone asks for your honest opinion. You might slip up and let everyone know how deluded you are.

Stick to deflecting on every topic, lmao.

All I’ve ever really been able to definitively get out of him is that he’s terrified of illegal immigrants and doesn’t like women being pro-choice.

I.e, the talking points of a Republican circa 2003. The only reason we haven’t heard what I’m sure is a spicy era-appropriate take on gay marriage is that he probably knows that’s the one definitive way to get his ass banned.


Imagine being so deluded you think a minority population with zero economic and legal power is somehow the cause of all of America’s problems.

So much so that you back the party that puts up a deeply corrupt, deeply incompetent convicted criminal and civilly liable sexual assaulter-moron that’s scudding America’s global hegemony and economy with zero evidence that any of this will substantively change in the future… just because you like that they appear “tough” on your chosen scapegoat, in this case illegal immigrants.

[Dontrike]

And the government's AI plans were leaked on Github.

We're less than a month away from the Trump administration's launch of an initiative to push AI across the entire federal government, based on a code repository eagle-eyed onlookers spotted on GitHub before it disappeared.

The US General Services Administration (GSA, the federal government's purchasing arm) and its Technology Transformation Services (TTS) group are working on an "ai.gov" website, according to a GitHub repository that vanished from the web shortly after we sent an email asking questions about it. (An archived backup is here.) The repository was previously reported by 404 Media.

From what we were able to gather before the feds presumably locked it down, AI.gov will serve as a hub for government agencies to begin adding AI to their operations, as was envisioned by TTS chief and Elon Musk ally Thomas Shedd when he took control of the team in late January.

Shedd, whose professional career was largely spent as a software integration engineering manager at Tesla before being tapped to head the TTS, came to the government with AI top of mind. He reportedly wants GSA to operate like a software startup, and proposed a whole-of-government, AI-first strategy to automate much of the work done by federal employees today.

Based on a staging link of the AI.gov site hosted on GitHub that has also been taken down (we have an archive copy for you, thankfully), Shedd's mission will kick off in earnest on July 4 – the apparent launch date for the site, according to an issues thread from the now-hidden GitHub page.



Per the bare-bones staging implementation of ai.gov, the project has three components: A chatbot that'll do … something; an "all-in-one API" that will allow agencies to connect their systems to models from OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic; and something called "CONSOLE," which the page describes as a "groundbreaking tool to analyze agency-wide implementation."

From what we could gather based on the staging site, which didn't include working copies of sub-pages, CONSOLE will allow agencies to monitor AI usage at their agencies in real time to see how employees are using tools and which ones they prefer.

The staging site indicates that GSA is working with FedRAMP-certified vendors. According to API documentation from the GitHub page, AI.gov will serve AI models via Amazon Bedrock, most of which listed in the API documentation are known to be FedRAMP certified for government usage. But we did note the presence of a model from enterprise AI firm Cohere in the API documentation, and it doesn't appear that Cohere has been FedRAMP certified.



GitHub documentation also indicates the site will publish model rankings, though we weren't able to ascertain what the criteria would be.

The federal government has made a lot of noise about using AI lately, with the Trump administration and DOGE pushing for its adoption and trying to eliminate state-level regulations, while government agencies increasingly adopt it to replace employees eliminated in widespread layoffs and rely on it for critical decision making.

Experts have expressed concern, stressing that widespread adoption could create considerable security risks as AI systems gobble up confidential data and personally identifiable information about citizens.

We contacted staffers involved in the AI.gov implementation, and Shedd, for comment but didn't hear back from anyone, other than to see the repository door slammed shut. ®
Updated to add at 1502 UTC, June 11

A reader has been in touch to inform us that, while the ai.gov GitHub repository may appear gone, it wasn't completely hidden – the GSA team just tossed it into a heap of archived projects.