Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Fugus]

Alligator Alcatraz… I think a better name would be the Biggot Bayou.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Sorry, you think it’s a shame that Trump wasn’t killed by an assassin’s bullet, but you have other points on the subject of rhetoric? Let’s get you to step off the ledge with a little admission that the country is much better off without a major party candidate murdered in the months before an election. There really isn’t a rhetorical Plan B if murdering presidents to avoid what they did once elected is on the menu for you.

But if that’s something you stand behind, then I don’t really have much to say to you. Climb off that ledge. Democracy and wishing the President had died don’t exist harmoniously.

It's probably the best thing that could have happened for Democracy, considering Trump is openly saying he wants the power to deport American citizens to other countries (and their torture prisons).

You and every other MAGAt tagalong have been telling us that we're overreacting, that Trump would never do anything to American citizens, that he's only after the illegals. And after deporting many legal citizens (who were children of citizens) he just wants to have the legal authority to DEPORT AMERICAN CITIZENS TO FOREIGN NATIONS. And it's not exactly a secret that he's very vindictive about his political enemies, having his ICE thugs grab journalists off the streets, grab mothers out running errands, and other heinous acts. ICE doesn't show up to people's houses, because the populace knows their rights, and they know they don't have to let ICE in without a proper judicial warrant, so ICE has just been circumventing that by black bagging people when they inevitably leave the house.

They get no trial, they can't defend themselves. One day they're living their normal, honest, peaceful life and suddenly the next day they're being told they're going to spend the rest of their life being tortured in prison.

Democracy died to Donald Trump, and if Donald Trump had died, Democracy would be better than ever.

[fwc577]

https://x.com/brianstelter/status/19...z1MImJ1xg&s=19

Northern Texas and judge Jackson of course.

Corporate media is dead. Well it should be dead but yes I still go for news, sources to link in here and sometimes opinions.

It's getting difficult though.

Good. Time for Dems/Kamala to file counter-suits against every single Conservative Media outlet using the same BS. Get them for all the deceptively edited videos where they slowed down her talking to make her seem "drunk" and go after ever single news organization that edited out Trump or cut away from Trump speeches when he went on unhinged rants.

Make them all fucking pay.

[Elder Millennial]

The question of how could have the Holocaust happen, is being answered right before our eyes as we watch MAGA bump into the same "solutions" for the "Immigration" problems as the Nazis did in the late 1930s.

It's just a question of how soon will they iterate themselves to the "final solution".

[Mekh]

The question of how could have the Holocaust happen, is being answered right before our eyes as we watch MAGA bump into the same "solutions" for the "Immigration" problems as the Nazis did in the late 1930s.

It's just a question of how soon will they iterate themselves to the "final solution".

It might take a little longer. Nazi Germany didn't have a prison industrial complex profiting of concentration camps. Here, there's money to be made in holding them.

[Casterbridge]

I swear I'm not laughing...

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...309817040.html

Though I guess the downside is the fact they are still planning to put people in that shit hole.

[En Sabah Nur]

I gotta hand it to the GOP, they have somehow convinced their base this doesnt remove healthcare from americans, it removes healthcare from "illegal immigrants"

Its pretty easy to do, honestly. All you need is a very willing mainstream media apparatus and then its just repetition, repetition, repetition. There is a reason members of the GOP are always on TV.

[Captain N]

I swear I'm not laughing...

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...309817040.html

Though I guess the downside is the fact they are still planning to put people in that shit hole.

And when they do it's going to be like the scene in Titanic where they locked all the third class passengers below decks. The place can't withstand rain when they claim it's built to handle a category 2 hurricane but the last 5 hurricanes to hit Florida were Category 3 or higher. People are going to likely die locked up in a cage in that place.

[Gabriel]

And when they do it's going to be like the scene in Titanic where they locked all the third class passengers below decks. The place can't withstand rain when they claim it's built to handle a category 2 hurricane but the last 5 hurricanes to hit Florida were Category 3 or higher. People are going to likely die locked up in a cage in that place.

You make it sound like it is a bug instead of a feature.

[Captain N]

You make it sound like it is a bug instead of a feature.

Oh I know it's a feature. Dead brown people is the calling card for conservatives these days.

[Endus]

The question of how could have the Holocaust happen, is being answered right before our eyes as we watch MAGA bump into the same "solutions" for the "Immigration" problems as the Nazis did in the late 1930s.

It's just a question of how soon will they iterate themselves to the "final solution".

It was literally the same path. I'll detail it again for those who've never bothered to study WWII history;

1. We hate <insert group(s) here>. We want them out of our country. Let's deport them.
2. Hell, we even hate <X> when they're citizens. Let's remove that citizenship and deport, or just ignore it.
3. Wow, there's so many undesirables. We need to build camps to house them all as we arrange deportations for them all. Camps to concentrate them all in one place. Concentration camps, so to speak.
4. Gosh, these camps aren't cheap. These undesirables are costing us money. Why are we bothering to feed them properly? And we may as well make them work to offset the costs of having to deport them.
5. Look, we just can't process them all fast enough, and other crises are emerging, and we need our resources dedicated to real problems. So let's just find a way to eliminate the problem quickly and permanently, a "final solution" so to speak.
6. Yeah, now you're just worried about whether the smoke from the industrial death camps is irritating nearby cities or not. You hit "death camp" a step back.

The USA is currently entering #3, what with "Alligator Alcatraz" and similar. Shipping them to foreign death prisons like CECOT is a new iteration that doesn't change anything meaningful, as well.

And to be clear, the Holocaust was a human rights atrocity from step 2 onward. The USA is already violating human rights on this front on practically a daily basis.

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It might take a little longer. Nazi Germany didn't have a prison industrial complex profiting of concentration camps. Here, there's money to be made in holding them.

And that slots in as an alternative to #4 on my list right there.

[Elder Millennial]

It might take a little longer. Nazi Germany didn't have a prison industrial complex profiting of concentration camps. Here, there's money to be made in holding them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced...g_World_War_II

Oh yeah they did.

[prwraith]

I'm still shocked by these supreme court decisions. Like this is approaching the level of maliciousness that warrants an actual response

[Breccia]

Good. Time for Dems/Kamala to file counter-suits against every single Conservative Media outlet using the same BS.

I have to agree. Trump's single claim is that the interview was edited. Most non-live interviews are. This was a settlement, but a settlement likely based on "we're going to lose" like so many are. Hit them with the same stick. It's literally only fair.

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JPMorgan research finds that Trump's tariffs would cost American businesses, therefore passed down to American taxpayers, $82 billion dollars total, $2000 each.

"In exchange for increased American productivity!"

No. In exchange for nothing. The research includes any benefits and they are outweighed.

"What about businesses that don't import?"

Included.

"What about the companies eating the tariffs?"

Included. The research says "they might eat half, but places like Amazon and Costco probably won't".

"What about all those things Trump and his Treasurer said in front of cameras?"

Included. Ignored. You don't become an industry giant like JPMorgan by taking a proven liar at face value.

The research also says that, if Trump hadn't pushed his own tariffs from April to July, it would have been double that. Suggesting that it'll be $2,000 per taxpayer per three months.

[Mayhem]

It might take a little longer. Nazi Germany didn't have a prison industrial complex profiting of concentration camps. Here, there's money to be made in holding them.

Schindler's List ringing any bells?

[Draco-Onis]

I'm still shocked by these supreme court decisions. Like this is approaching the level of maliciousness that warrants an actual response

How are you shocked? The people republicans put on the supreme court include 2 sexual assaulters / rapists and a crazy handmaiden's tale fanatic.

[btlcryct]

It was literally the same path. I'll detail it again for those who've never bothered to study WWII history;

1. We hate <insert group(s) here>. We want them out of our country. Let's deport them.
2. Hell, we even hate <X> when they're citizens. Let's remove that citizenship and deport, or just ignore it.
3. Wow, there's so many undesirables. We need to build camps to house them all as we arrange deportations for them all. Camps to concentrate them all in one place. Concentration camps, so to speak.
4. Gosh, these camps aren't cheap. These undesirables are costing us money. Why are we bothering to feed them properly? And we may as well make them work to offset the costs of having to deport them.
5. Look, we just can't process them all fast enough, and other crises are emerging, and we need our resources dedicated to real problems. So let's just find a way to eliminate the problem quickly and permanently, a "final solution" so to speak.
6. Yeah, now you're just worried about whether the smoke from the industrial death camps is irritating nearby cities or not. You hit "death camp" a step back.

The USA is currently entering #3, what with "Alligator Alcatraz" and similar. Shipping them to foreign death prisons like CECOT is a new iteration that doesn't change anything meaningful, as well.

And to be clear, the Holocaust was a human rights atrocity from step 2 onward. The USA is already violating human rights on this front on practically a daily basis.

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And that slots in as an alternative to #4 on my list right there.

I'd even say we're already at #4, as they've said they're going to put them to work. I don't think it's any stretch of the imagination that the meal part of #4 isn't that far behind. What's worse is, there's no one to stop them. Even if the international community condemns them, they'll tell them to piss off. And more than half the country supports this, so they aren't going to rise up to stop them either. The number of people cheering this camp is disgusting, they want one in their state, made even worse that they're proud to buy merch for it.

[Draco-Onis]

Oh I know it's a feature. Dead brown people is the calling card for conservatives these days.

I mean Trump and Desantis were masturbating at the possibility of immigrants being eaten by gators and stung by deadly snakes. These are sick people who don't value human life.

[Mayhem]

So the question is, is it going to be a Handmaid's Tale or the Hunger Games?

Sorry, you're just not dapper enough for Germany 1933.

[Endus]

I'd even say we're already at #4, as they've said they're going to put them to work. I don't think it's any stretch of the imagination that the meal part of #4 isn't that far behind. What's worse is, there's no one to stop them. Even if the international community condemns them, they'll tell them to piss off. And more than half the country supports this, so they aren't going to rise up to stop them either. The number of people cheering this camp is disgusting, they want one in their state, made even worse that they're proud to buy merch for it.

The disturbing thing about stage 4 is that it's entirely legal in the USA. America never banned slavery fully. It's a simple transition to fully legally enslaving people in camps ostensibly to be deported.