Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Iphie]

So..eh, what is this all about??

Elon musk creates "America Party".

I assume this is DOA even if he's serious?

[Bwgmon]

So..eh, what is this all about??

Elon musk creates "America Party".

I assume this is DOA even if he's serious?

While Musk was screaming about how bad the Shitbudget was for him last week, he threatened he'd create/fund a new party and get a bunch of Republicans primaried "if it was the last thing he'd do" if it passed.

Who knows how hard he'll push it though, since he seems to fall in line every time Trump tweets "I COULD PROBABLY DEPORT HIM."

[Edge-]

So..eh, what is this all about??

Elon musk creates "America Party".

I assume this is DOA even if he's serious?

dope, he can join andrew yang and the forward party

and whatever other weirdo party cuomo or whatever came up with for a hot second

politicking via twitter seems very on-brand for ketamine south african pedo guy

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

So..eh, what is this all about??

Elon musk creates "America Party".

I assume this is DOA even if he's serious?

Well, the richest man in the world is capable of throwing enough money at this to at least create some spoiler candidates...if he's serious about doing so. Ross Perot managed to mostly self-finance his own Presidential run in 1992...and, even though he lost, he took 18% of the vote...most of that coming from voters that would likely have otherwise voted for Bush. Clinton flipped 22 states in that election.

[Dontrike]

So..eh, what is this all about??

Elon musk creates "America Party".

I assume this is DOA even if he's serious?

Let him split the Republican vote, that sounds like some fun.

[david0925]

It's doa because Elon is the one starting it. Like if you start a party is has to be aoc Bernie or mamdani (or trump tbh). And the results is going to be slow

People like Andrew Yang or Elon musk just aren't really breaking off from the establishment and the new party just doesn't serve the populist crowd. People that truly want a 3rd option are the ones that want to break from both pro-corporate parties, and that's just not going to happen with either Yang or Musk. Trump is the only pro-business exception (he doesn't need to, but he frankly has the best chance to start a new party out of everyone) because he was able to establish his cult.

[Gorsameth]

Elon wants a cult just like Trump has, the kinda had one but that has blown up since he publicly showed himself to be a shitbag.
And yes he has talked about wanting to play spoiler, but I think Musk seriously underestimates how Republicans will vote for the person with an R or stay home. They aren't going to flip to 3e party.

[Kathandira]

DRUGS ARE BEING APPROVED TOO QUICKLY SLOW IT DOWN

ALSO DO NO DO ANY TESTING FOR DRUGS JUST RUN IT THROUGH AI AND LET IT APPROVE IT

as repeated multiple times

the most retarded, malicious people alive right now and they make up the core of the Republican party.

He should be investing into Virtual Twin technology. Dassault Systemes has been working on this for a while. It is the sci-fi future of clinical testing we have all been dreaming of.

Simply put, it would make a virtual rendition of you, and drugs/treatments/medical devices can be simulated in your own bodies make up to test outcomes. It would provide soo many benefits.

[s_bushido]

Elon wants a cult just like Trump has, the kinda had one but that has blown up since he publicly showed himself to be a shitbag.
And yes he has talked about wanting to play spoiler, but I think Musk seriously underestimates how Republicans will vote for the person with an R or stay home. They aren't going to flip to 3e party.

Imagine a world where a fuckwit like Musk is the one who actually gets us to adopt rank-choice voting on a more broad scale. All because he wants a bigger piece of the political pie.

[Al Gorefiend]

Kennedy said that AI will rapidly accelerate the drug approval process at the FDA, implying it will fully replace animal testing.

I miss when the left was full of grunge hippies who would cheer for this substantial leap in ethical research, this is massive.

Not to play devils advocate but like... the elimination of animal testing is hugely important to me, and the grunge hippies who used to make up the left. No clue where they all went.

[Poopymonster]

I miss when the left was full of grunge hippies who would cheer for this substantial leap in ethical research, this is massive.

Not to play devils advocate but like... the elimination of animal testing is hugely important to me, and the grunge hippies who used to make up the left. No clue where they all went.

Can't wait for the first major lawsuit against the drug company AND the AI company when someone dies horribly from an "accelerated" approved drug from an AI fed utter shit information for Gross Negligence.
Any bets on how long until Elongated Muskrat gets in on it?

[Gorsameth]

I miss when the left was full of grunge hippies who would cheer for this substantial leap in ethical research, this is massive.

Not to play devils advocate but like... the elimination of animal testing is hugely important to me, and the grunge hippies who used to make up the left. No clue where they all went.

It is that artificial imitation (because there is nothing intelligent about current AI), is not a valid replacement able to properly evaluate risks and side effects.

[Draco-Onis]

I miss when the left was full of grunge hippies who would cheer for this substantial leap in ethical research, this is massive.

Not to play devils advocate but like... the elimination of animal testing is hugely important to me, and the grunge hippies who used to make up the left. No clue where they all went.

I think you are confusing two different groups first are the nutters like PETA who are against all animal testing, the second are groups of people that believe that we should cut the testing that science no longer deems necessary or that is used in fields like cosmetics. Some animal testing is impossible to avoid especially for drugs where you need to test it monkeys because they are so close to us before moving to human trials. There's no way AI can do this without disastrous results there are way too many variables that affect drug effectiveness, AI is not there yet nowhere close.

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Elon wants a cult just like Trump has, the kinda had one but that has blown up since he publicly showed himself to be a shitbag.
And yes he has talked about wanting to play spoiler, but I think Musk seriously underestimates how Republicans will vote for the person with an R or stay home. They aren't going to flip to 3e party.

Elon still has a cult it's just significantly smaller than Trump's otherwise his stock price would be close to zero.

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Trump is shocked by the floods in Texas. If only someone didn't defund FEMA.

He defunded FEMA, the National Weather Service and NOAA and took the money and put it into important things like alligator Alcatraz. It's a good thing Trump has magical powers I am sure we won't need any of these things since we won't be hit by hurricanes, floods or any natural disasters during his term /s

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

oh shit

we banning chemtrails federally now?

i see these are the big priorities

Jewish Space Lasers and Weather Control Machines.

[Al Gorefiend]

I think you are confusing two different groups first are the nutters like PETA who are against all animal testing, the second are groups of people that believe that we should cut the testing that science no longer deems necessary or that is used in fields like cosmetics. Some animal testing is impossible to avoid especially for drugs where you need to test it monkeys because they are so close to us before moving to human trials. There's no way AI can do this without disastrous results there are way too many variables that affect drug effectiveness, AI is not there yet nowhere close.

I think we'll have to wait and see, I've already been bitten in the ass for saying "no way AI can achieve X'.

I don't know which category I fall into regarding nutter when it comes to animal welfare tbh, probably closer to the nutter side. I wouldn't go so radical as to criminalize or downright outlaw all animal testing, but a reduction by even a hypothetical half of the amount of current testing we do, is enough for me to warily say let's give AI a chance, for the sake of reducing the suffering

[DarkTZeratul]

I don't know which category I fall into regarding nutter when it comes to animal welfare tbh, probably closer to the nutter side. I wouldn't go so radical as to criminalize or downright outlaw all animal testing, but a reduction by even a hypothetical half of the amount of current testing we do, is enough for me to warily say let's give AI a chance, for the sake of reducing the suffering

Would you say "let's just take an educated guess and hoping it all works out" is a worthy alternative? Because that's about what AI would amount to, and frankly is likely to be more accurate. If we could accurately model drug interactions in virtual models, we would be doing that already, and in a more structured way than just "let a predictive text generator spit out the answer it thinks we want to see."

[Poopymonster]

I think you are confusing two different groups first are the nutters like PETA who are against all animal testing, the second are groups of people that believe that we should cut the testing that science no longer deems necessary or that is used in fields like cosmetics. Some animal testing is impossible to avoid especially for drugs where you need to test it monkeys because they are so close to us before moving to human trials. There's no way AI can do this without disastrous results there are way too many variables that affect drug effectiveness, AI is not there yet nowhere close.

PETA as a non profit, has the second highest death rate of those it purportedly helps.
They are only outdone by the Make-A-Wish foundation.

[Edge-]

I miss when the left was full of grunge hippies who would cheer for this substantial leap in ethical research, this is massive.

Not to play devils advocate but like... the elimination of animal testing is hugely important to me, and the grunge hippies who used to make up the left. No clue where they all went.

why do you think ai will improve things?

[Al Gorefiend]

why do you think ai will improve things?

The only metric I am discussing or care to argue for is it's usage to minimize animal testing, which is a reduction in animal suffering, which is a fairly bipartisan good thing. If we have the means to reduce it, why not

[Breccia]

Belongs in Congress thread I know, but WTF.

MTG does not speak alone.

FAKE WEATHER. REAL DAMAGE.

Hurricane Helene left me powerless for 16 days & caused $57K in damage.

This isn’t just “climate change.”
It’s cloud seeding, geoengineering, & manipulation.

If fake weather causes real tragedy, that’s murder.

Pray. Prepare. Question the narrative.

-- Kandiss Taylor, MAGA candidate running in Georgia

I think, with multiple Trump supporters saying the same, it is safe to assume other Trump supporters say the same, until they say otherwise. Yes, I'm talking about @tehdang who, until he says otherwise, believes people are using weather to commit murder.