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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    He could very easily be sued for libel or slander if that were the case. Meaning they’d had to provide an actual list of names or admit they just made it up.
    At which point he would drag ass and refuse and appeal any attempts to force it to the supreme court who would drag ass on it till the point he was out of office or at least after the midterms before he had to admit he lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Republican antivaxxers are Making Measles Great Again.
    Missed this post, sorry about that. So, you mentioned 1992 specifically, which had over 1,000 measles cases. So has this year. As shown here, the only year between now and then with over 1,000 cases was 2019. There was a sharp drop in 2020 for, well, obvious reasons.

    If we take the 1,288 cases and scale that up to Dec 31, it'll be about 2,500 and we start talking about the H W years. Cases were in the low thousands until Bush Sr. took the helm, there was a significant upswing from 1989 to 1992, hiting 20,000+ for example. It got so bad Bush threatened to withhold social programs if you didn't vaccinate your kids. In other words, there was a serious problem, and even a Republican took measures. By contrast, Trump is also seeing a tenfold increase and his reaction is literally nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    At which point he would drag ass and refuse and appeal any attempts to force it to the supreme court who would drag ass on it till the point he was out of office or at least after the midterms before he had to admit he lied.
    He wouldn't even have to so that. Just claim that he is doing it in his capacity as the POTUS and boom. Immunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Won't be too hard. Knowing this administration he'd probably find it all crumpled up dumpster diving in the White House's garbage bins.
    Nah, he'd pose as a plumber and pull it out of the toilet.
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    A lot of people are dying and it should end. We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth. He’s very nice all the time, but it turns out to be meaningless.
    It took Trump this long to figure out Putin treats Trump like Trump treats everyone. Remember him defending Putin, when Putin was called a killer? Has Trump not, you know, heard of Putin before? Or is it that he's senile and retarded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    lmao donald was president and bill barr was attorney general when he died in prison

    i swear, some folks have clinton derangement syndrome or something
    General reminder that Barr used to work for the CIA.
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    He so desperately wants to be included lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedsaint View Post
    He handled this poorly,It’s not like he couldn’t have released a fake list with some real celebrities that he doesn’t like and his followers woulda treated as gospel, and just lie/say that is Doj is building evidence against them till his time is done(1way or another). Now he got the crazies up in arms again.
    They would have to prosecute those people and provide evidence which would open another can of worms. He cannot name anyone on the list because all of them are in this mutually assured destruction pact. If he throws anyone on the client list under the bus they will blow lid on everyone else involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    He so desperately wants to be included lol

    Just don't let Vance touch the trophy. We all saw what happened with the NCAA Football Championship trophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Just don't let Vance touch the trophy. We all saw what happened with the NCAA Football Championship trophy.
    I'd hope the players would immediately have a word with him if that happened. If only for my entertainment.

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    Well, Elmo(as in the actual puppet, not Elon) got in on the action with the Epstein list. Proceeds to call for the death of all Jews and then calls Trump a puppet of Israel and a child fucker.

    Yes, the account was hacked. However, the point still stands. Even the people that live on Sesame Street knows what is up.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20250714...ase-the-files/

    The official X account for beloved Sesame Street Muppet Elmo was hacked on Sunday, and a series of graphic and racist posts were put on the public timeline before being deleted after control was apparently restored.

    A profane series of posts on X were sent on the public timeline for the red Sesame Street monster on Sunday evening before they were eventually deleted, and the account also appears to have been replying to users before it was restored.

    The uncensored messages below were only live for less than half an hour, but it was plenty of time for screenshots and reactions to spread like wildfire across the platform.

    Among the horrific messages sent were vile, anti-Semitic and anti-Israel hate messages, and demands that President Donald Trump, whom the hacked Elmo referred to as a “child fucker” and the “puppet” of Israeli Prime Minster Benjamin Netanyahu.

    One tweet included names of individuals the hacked account accused of being hackers, but we have not included that message in this article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    He could very easily be sued for libel or slander if that were the case. Meaning they’d had to provide an actual list of names or admit they just made it up.
    SCOTUS gave him complete and utter immunity from silly mortal laws if he's "Presidenting".
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedsaint View Post
    He handled this poorly,It’s not like he couldn’t have released a fake list with some real celebrities that he doesn’t like and his followers woulda treated as gospel, and just lie/say that is Doj is building evidence against them till his time is done(1way or another). Now he got the crazies up in arms again.
    well that's par for the course, which ironically only happens when trump isn't golfing.

  14. #111834
    We ought to brace ourselves for a massive surge in gestapo I mean ICE raids to distract from Epstein. The one major thing that unites the MAGA neanderthals is racism and seeing their thugs beating up brown people in home depot parking lots in every blue state may appease their blood thirst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    We ought to brace ourselves for a massive surge in gestapo I mean ICE raids to distract from Epstein.
    Honestly, I think ICE had its brakes removed already. I'd expect a bunch more tariffs and a bunch more claims of deals which are blatant lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    SCOTUS gave him complete and utter immunity from silly mortal laws if he's "Presidenting".
    This would be a civil suit, not a criminal one. And it’d also likely be suing the White House, not necessarily Trump directly.

    Still has a path to the Supreme Court to rule in Trump’s favor (or in essence, claim he’s not liable despite being ruled against) but at that point it might not be worth it for him to bother.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    According to /r conservative i think the diversion is: Biden signed pardons with autopen.

    Gushing over going after Facui and J6 commitee is almost as good...

    Not saying they wont do both though...
    Last edited by Pannonian; 2025-07-14 at 02:53 PM.

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    They were given their orders to stop caring about Epstien, so they're no longer caring about Epstien. I'm expecting the rest of the right wing sphere to fall in line fairly shortly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    According to /r conservative i think the diversion is: Biden signed pardons with autopen.
    It is, they're flooding my feed. That's when you know it's bad. Yeah, when Trump pardons 1,000+ terrorists, I don't care what Biden signed anything with, this is a nonissue intended to distract.

  20. #111840
    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    I'm expecting the rest of the right wing sphere to fall in line fairly shortly.
    I don't think they will this time. You need to remember, a lot of the right-wing sphere is here because of conspiracy theories, it's what they want. They don't give a fuck about egg prices. They don't give a fuck about Russia, Ukraine, Israel, or Gaza unless it involves some juicy detail of information that implicates someone in a conspiracy.

    What they care about are the names of pedos on the Epstein list. What they care about is who killed JFK. What they care about is the country of origin of Obama's Birth certificate and whether or not Michelle has a third leg.

    They elected Trump because they wanted answers, not more coverups.

    So while some right-wingers will move on, there is going to be a big chunk of MAGA who won't move past this.
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