Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Moralgy]

Anyone that votes for the GOP is a pedophile in my eyes after this event. Unfathomable they are not releasing the information.

[s_bushido]

I'd like to think Bill Clinton is, though. Man can dream.

Seems about as guaranteed as Trump's involvement was before these recent confirmations. I think that's one of the biggest reasons Democrats never moved on this.

[gondrin]

What does it take to arrest this orange pig?

Right now, two ways. Either pretty much overthrowing the government or impeachment of them AND the Vice President. Seeing as within the United States, there is no mechanism to arrest a President while they are actively in office.

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Seems about as guaranteed as Trump's involvement was before these recent confirmations. I think that's one of the biggest reasons Democrats never moved on this.

I mean, it was no secret that Bill Clinton has a massive pervert. There were issues with him WAY back when he was Governor. So if he is in there as an actual participant in things, it would shock me as much as if Bill Cosby would be in it.

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DoJ is trying to head off the Subpoena of Ghislaine Maxwell by having a Deputy AG talk to her to get her story straight, probably to get her a pardon.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/22/polit...axwell-epstein

Every time someone absolutely crooked says "We have to talk to someone to get their story straight" really reminds me of a scene from the movie Basic with John Travolta saying that exact same line.

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Well, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals basically told Trump that he is an idiot and came to the same conclusion that everyone else but him and his sycophants came to. That his EO on Birthright Citizenship is unconstitutional because it directly goes against the plain language of the 14th Amendment.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...f2d10087&ei=13

A federal appeals court said Wednesday that President Trump's executive order curtailing birthright citizenship is unconstitutional.

The policy, which has been the subject of a complicated monthslong legal back-and-forth, is currently on hold. But Wednesday's decision appears to mark the first time that an appellate court has weighed in on the merits of Mr. Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship for many children of undocumented immigrants by executive order.

A panel of judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit wrote that Mr. Trump's order is "invalid because it contradicts the plain language of the Fourteenth Amendment's grant of citizenship to 'all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.'"

And this was reported by CBS news so it has to be true because they just gave a massive bribe to Trump and you generally don't give out bad news to people you just bribed.

[Elenos]

Seems to me that we went back in time to 2016, because all the stories about what Trump may have done due to his strong relationship with Epstein was covered back.

Including yes stories of him being accused of raping children. Mind for all the credible stories of Trump being a rapist, that one was something even the Guardian was skeptical about.

But who knows what comes out of it.

Still though the Trump admin couldn't help itself. They reap what they sow.

[Edge-]

Seems to me that we went back in time to 2016, because all the stories about what Trump may have done due to his strong relationship with Epstein was covered back.

Including yes stories of him being accused of raping children. Mind for all the credible stories of Trump being a rapist, that one was something even the Guardian was skeptical about.

But who knows what comes out of it.

Still though the Trump admin couldn't help itself. They reap what they sow.

i mean

dude promised to release the list

reportedly had 1K FBI agents coming through all the files for mentions of him

had all his people promising to release the list

wouldn't shut the fuck up about it for a while

and now suddenly doesn't want to talk about it for some weird reason

i think it's because he's on the list because he raped kids

[Valdhammer]

Every day a question is asked, “does anything matter anymore?” And so far the answer has been, “nope!”. Let’s see if the trend persists…

[Breccia]

Ninth Circuit slaps down Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship by an Executive Order.

The verdict basically comes down to "it's in the Constitution, you fat orange fuckwit."

On February 6, 2025, the district court granted a preliminary injunction,
enjoining Defendants from enforcing or implementing the Executive Order on a
universal basis. The district court concluded that the States had standing and that
the Individual Plaintiffs’ standing was undisputed. On the merits, the district court
concluded that the Executive Order likely violates both the Constitution and the
Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). The district court also concluded that the
States would suffer “irreparable economic harm in the absence of preliminary
relief,” and that the Individual Plaintiffs faced the irreparable harm of “constitutional
infringement and the specter of deportation.” Finally, the district court concluded
that the balance of the equities and public interest strongly weighed in favor of
entering a preliminary injunction, because “the rule of law is secured by a strong
public interest that the laws ‘enacted by their representatives are not imperiled by
executive fiat.’” The district court granted a universal injunction after determining
that a geographically limited injunction would be ineffective to relieve the States’
financial and administrative burdens.

Trump continues to do whatever he wants, because that's how dictators work. It's good to see that at least some of his objectively illegal and subjectively tyrannical actions are being treated with the contempt they deserve. And this is one case where Trump can't just do it anyway, there are rules for stripping citizenship and none of them apply to babies.

[gondrin]

Ninth Circuit slaps down Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship by an Executive Order.

The verdict basically comes down to "it's in the Constitution, you fat orange fuckwit."



Trump continues to do whatever he wants, because that's how dictators work. It's good to see that at least some of his objectively illegal and subjectively tyrannical actions are being treated with the contempt they deserve. And this is one case where Trump can't just do it anyway, there are rules for stripping citizenship and none of them apply to babies.

You are 30 minutes too late. Already posted this.

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Well, Levitt when asked about how Obama can be prosecuted while having immunity(due to the fact SCOTUS ruled that Presidents get immunity for actions that are considered actual functions of the White House), she had an epiphany and said the reporter was right...

Oops, I was looking at fantasy land. Levitt actually refused to answer and decided that it was the right time to attack the media.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...f26c1c2e&ei=19

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt lashed out at the media when asked whether presidential immunity would prevent any possible prosecution of former President Barack Obama.

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard joined Leavitt for Wednesday’s White House press briefing where she accused Obama and officials in his administration of manufacturing evidence to suggest Russian President Vladimir Putin preferred President Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election. Multiple intelligence agencies determined Russia tried to influence the 2016 election. Gabbard claimed the conclusion that he tried to influence it one way or the other was manufactured by Obama’s administration.

Gabbard previously accused Obama and others of taking part in a “treasonous conspiracy.” Trump meanwhile claimed from the White House this week that Obama is guilty of “treason.”

The Daily Caller’s Reagan Reese on Wednesday asked Leavitt whether the Supreme Court’s decision on presidential immunity would mean Trump’s will to have Obama prosecuted would be impossible. Leavitt did not directly answer that question, but lashed out at the media.

The Supreme Court ruled in 2024 — in a win for Trump — that presidents have “absolute immunity” from prosecution for officials acts taken as president.

Leavitt said:

I can speak to the President’s feelings on this matter. He spoke to all of you yesterday in the Oval Office, but I also spoke to him about this this morning. And he wants to see all those who perpetuated this fraud against our country, who betrayed our country and the Constitution, to be thoroughly investigated and held accountable. And it’s been, you know, 10 years of this. And I would just add, based on everything the director has said and declassified, all of you in this room should go through it and take a look at this report and review the intelligence because unfortunately that hasn’t happened.

Leavitt blasted networks for hiring former intelligence officials from Obama’s administration and not pushing back enough against claims from Democrats about Trump.

“You had major Democrat Party officials in this city, namely Adam Schiff, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, who went on television and told the American people Donald Trump is an asset of Russia. It was a lie. They always knew it. Hillary Clinton herself said that President Trump would be a puppet for Putin. Senator Tim Kaine at the time called President Trump Vladimir Putin’s defense lawyer,” Leavitt said.

She blasted journalists for not questioning accusations painting Trump in a negative light enough.

“Not enough people in this room, not enough journalists in this country pushed Adam Schiff to say, what are you talking about? What evidence do you have?” Leavitt said. “Everybody just ran with the lies and it led to impeachments and led to the division of our country, unfortunately.”

Typical modern day conservative playbook. When asked a leading question that absolutely will put someone or something you like in a bad light, you misdirect and go on a tirade of grievances that have nothing to do what was asked about. The typical conservate "Whataboutism". Stalin would be proud.

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So, is this an actual act that should get someone, not only fired, but jailed for a long time?

Not if you are in this administration.

Hegseth actively shard classified information during the famous Signalgate incident, according to the Pentagon Inspector General.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cae0e585&ei=21

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth divulged classified information in March from battlefield commanders about the U.S. attack on Houthi rebels in a chat on the commercial messaging app Signal, according to a U.S. official.

The Washington Post reported on July 23 that the Pentagon Inspector General, which is reviewing the matter, has evidence that the information Hegseth shared detailing the timing of U.S. airstrikes came from a classified email.

The message was classified as secret information when Gen. Erik Kurilla, the commander of U.S. Central Command, sent it to Hegseth, a U.S. official who was not authorized to speak publicly, told USA TODAY.

The Pentagon stood by its contention that the information Hegseth revealed on the Signal chat, which had inadvertently included a journalist from The Atlantic, wasn't secret.

"The Department stands behind its previous statements: no classified information was shared via Signal," Sean Parnell, the Pentagon's chief spokesman, said in a statement. "As we've said repeatedly, nobody was texting war plans and the success of the Department's recent operations – from Operation Rough Rider to Operation Midnight Hammer – are proof that our operational security and discipline are top notch."

Rough Rider is the name of the operation to bomb Houthi rebels in Yemen who have attacked ships in the Red Sea. The Houthis agreed not to target U.S. ships after heavy bombardment there. Midnight Hammer is the name for the U.S. attack on Iran's nuclear sites.

[Zaydin]

WSJ reports that the DOJ told Trump his name was in the Epstein files.

The WH has already responded by yelling "OBAMA!" into nearby cameras.

By the way, this is what happens when you sue someone for telling the truth.

Well, I'm sure we can all agree the WSJ has proven itself to be a trustworthy source of information. "Trump is a pedophile who raped child sex slaves" will now be taken as an objective statement of fact, not guesswork or conspiracy theory.

In other news, water is wet.

[gondrin]

Obama released a rare statement about Trump claiming that Obama is committed treason and is actively looking to investigate him. Obama usually doesn't make public statements like this.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...171800938.html

Patrick Rodenbush, an Obama spokesperson, said in a statement that “out of respect for the office of the presidency,” the former president “does not normally dignify the constant nonsense and misinformation flowing out of this White House with a response.”

“But these claims are outrageous enough to merit one,” Rodenbush said. “These bizarre allegations are ridiculous and a weak attempt at distraction.”

“Nothing in the document issued last week undercuts the widely accepted conclusion that Russia worked to influence the 2016 presidential election but did not successfully manipulate any votes,” he continued. “These findings were affirmed in a 2020 report by the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee, led by then-Chairman Marco Rubio.”

Remember, this administration is saying that there is direct evidence that Obama did something and look who confirmed that there wasn't.

Our current Secretary of State, Marco Rubio.

Oh, and by the way for all you Trump supporters, I said this would happen when Trump was saying that he was looking to revoke the citizenship of Rosie O'Donnell and conservatives were saying "It was a joke.", same with when Trump talked about jailing his political opponents. "It was a joke."

It always starts off as that. But that joke turns into suggestion, which turns into action. It is a slippery slope that Trump has used multiple times. And with a complacent Congress, he is able to get away with it.

And as we see, he is actively trying to investigate something that has no merit seeing as his own people in his administration, in the past, has said as such.

[Cthulhu 2020]

South Park released a BOMB of an episode for the Season 27 first episode, taking huge digs at Trump, depicting him as a man who sued his way to the top, sues his way through every conflict, has a small penis, has gay sex with satan, and so much more.

Remember when MAGA was laughing at South Park making fun of Biden and Obama? They're big mad now. They seem to have forgotten that South Park make fun of both left and right.

[tehdang]

Obama released a rare statement about Trump claiming that Obama is committed treason and is actively looking to investigate him. Obama usually doesn't make public statements like this.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...171800938.html



Remember, this administration is saying that there is direct evidence that Obama did something and look who confirmed that there wasn't.

Our current Secretary of State, Marco Rubio.

Oh, and by the way for all you Trump supporters, I said this would happen when Trump was saying that he was looking to revoke the citizenship of Rosie O'Donnell and conservatives were saying "It was a joke.", same with when Trump talked about jailing his political opponents. "It was a joke."

It always starts off as that. But that joke turns into suggestion, which turns into action. It is a slippery slope that Trump has used multiple times. And with a complacent Congress, he is able to get away with it.

And as we see, he is actively trying to investigate something that has no merit seeing as his own people in his administration, in the past, has said as such.

Obama should be pleased to recall the decision in Trump v. United States, which restated the high burden for criminal prosecution of a President for official acts.

I don't see anything significant coming from this investigation of declassified documents. We already know that Obama officials lied to Congress and spoke lies in public and mislead the American people. That's public record. Particularly Brennan, and particularly the individuals surrounding the FISA warrant and the use of the Steele dossier. I doubt any judge and jury will find actual criminal culpability. No political appointee or lifelong bureaucrat would be so dumb as to document criminal misdeeds for an investigation, at least not in the Obama administration. Any investigation would only document much of what we already know from the Mueller report and the Durham report, with *maybe* extra details on the political machinations behind the scenes.

[Poopymonster]

Right now, two ways. Either pretty much overthrowing the government or impeachment of them AND the Vice President. Seeing as within the United States, there is no mechanism to arrest a President while they are actively in office.

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I mean, it was no secret that Bill Clinton has a massive pervert. There were issues with him WAY back when he was Governor. So if he is in there as an actual participant in things, it would shock me as much as if Bill Cosby would be in it.

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Every time someone absolutely crooked says "We have to talk to someone to get their story straight" really reminds me of a scene from the movie Basic with John Travolta saying that exact same line.

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Well, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals basically told Trump that he is an idiot and came to the same conclusion that everyone else but him and his sycophants came to. That his EO on Birthright Citizenship is unconstitutional because it directly goes against the plain language of the 14th Amendment.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...f2d10087&ei=13



And this was reported by CBS news so it has to be true because they just gave a massive bribe to Trump and you generally don't give out bad news to people you just bribed.

That's the part in your quote they're running at. "Subject to the jurisdiction thereof".
If they can nab anyone brown off the street, deny them due process, deport them to anywhere but here...AND be given the blessing of the SCOTUS.
They are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" as all the things that the Constitution and it's amendments cover, don't apply to you anymore.

[gondrin]

That's the part in your quote they're running at. "Subject to the jurisdiction thereof".
If they can nab anyone brown off the street, deny them due process, deport them to anywhere but here...AND be given the blessing of the SCOTUS.
They are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" as all the things that the Constitution and it's amendments cover, don't apply to you anymore.

And if they are not subject to the jurisdiction of where they are at, since subject to the jurisdiction literally means you(subject) are bound to the law of the area(ability for the government to enforce the law, i.e. jurisdiction) you are in, this also means that they cannot be held for any crime.

Seeing as now they would not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

If SCOTUS tries to redefine the term outright, they basically caused a large subset of the population to literally now become outlaws. Which also now means that if they were to shoot and kill any ICE agent trying to arrest them and they were to be seen in front of a Judge, the judge literally wouldn't have the ability to rule in any punishment seeing as the government body would have no ability to enforce the law as SCOTUS basically stated the government has no jurisdiction over them. The most the judge could do is deport the person.

It would be like if someone broke into your house and the most the judge can do is have them transported to another state. Where they could come back and break into your house again.

And the ironic thing is, this would more than likely cause a lot of the sovereign citizen nutjobs out there to use that ruling as a means to get out of the things they always try to. Seeing as they don't see themselves as citizens anyway.

[Poopymonster]

And if they are not subject to the jurisdiction of where they are at, since subject to the jurisdiction literally means you(subject) are bound to the law of the area(ability for the government to enforce the law, i.e. jurisdiction) you are in, this also means that they cannot be held for any crime.

Seeing as now they would not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

If SCOTUS tries to redefine the term outright, they basically caused a large subset of the population to literally now become outlaws. Which also now means that if they were to shoot and kill any ICE agent trying to arrest them and they were to be seen in front of a Judge, the judge literally wouldn't have the ability to rule in any punishment seeing as the government body would have no ability to enforce the law as SCOTUS basically stated the government has no jurisdiction over them. The most the judge could do is deport the person.

It would be like if someone broke into your house and the most the judge can do is have them transported to another state. Where they could come back and break into your house again.

And the ironic thing is, this would more than likely cause a lot of the sovereign citizen nutjobs out there to use that ruling as a means to get out of the things they always try to. Seeing as they don't see themselves as citizens anyway.

It would also mean those same trigger happy racists could gun them down too.

[En Sabah Nur]

I can do nothing but sigh...

[Breccia]

(wild claims of conspiracy theory)

Anything to deflect from your support of a racist terrorist child raper, I see.

[Draco-Onis]

Trump admin ripped over new trade deal that's 'worse than we had before'

Japan trade deal info on Trump’s desk was altered by hand with a marker

Trump on Tuesday night announced on his Truth Social platform what he called a “massive” trade agreement with Japan, which the president said includes a 15% tariff rate and $550 billion in investments. But the details of that deal on a card on Trump’s desk during a meeting with a Japanese delegation and top White House aides shows discrepancies and last-minute edits, according to a photo posted on X by Dan Scavino, the White House deputy chief of staff.

The card on Trump’s desk displays a 10% tariff, in addition to a 15% levy rate on the automotive, pharmaceutical and semiconductor industries. However, Trump said in his Truth Social post only that Japan would face a rate of 15%, without elaborating.

“Japan will pay Reciprocal Tariffs to the United States of 15%,” Trump wrote.

Below the tariff rate, ”$400B” appears on the board in large lettering. The number four is crossed out, with “500” written above it.

Japan seems to be rather confused at Trump's announcements as they have no clue what Trump is talking about including the rice aspect because they insist on protecting their domestic producers. It seems that their "investments" is just a loan with 10% interest and that the whole thing is not really a deal so much as another framework. The Japanese prime minister is also in trouble because of Trump's lying, the appearance of bending the knee to Trump has already cost him seats and may now cost him his job.

[Breccia]

It seems that their "investments" is just a loan with 10% interest

...what? Why would Trump, why would anyone, brag about getting a loan with ten percent interest? Especially since they're pushing for one percent?

Look, I know full well Trump has damaged US credit rating/credibility and loans will be harder to get. But bragging about ten percent? That's like double or triple what government savings bonds pay, right?

[Kathandira]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...p/85313115007/

Hilarious. What was said and what it meant being two different things is no surprise.

Trump:

I have been speaking to Coca-Cola about using REAL Cane Sugar in Coke in the United States, and they have agreed to do so," Trump wrote. "I’d like to thank all of those in authority at Coca-Cola. This will be a very good move by them – You’ll see. It’s just better!"

What it means"

We're going to bring a Coke sweetened with U.S. cane sugar into the market this fall and I think it will be an enduring option for consumers

As part of the company's ongoing innovation agenda this fall in the United States, we plan to expand our trademark Coca Cola product range with U.S. cane sugar to reflect consumer interest in differentiated experiences

In summary, it sounded like HFCS was going away, and coke will be using Cane Sugar. False, Coke will be releasing an additional product with Cane Sugar.

HFCS is still on the menu and will likely be the cheaper option, which will of course end up being the preferred one to purchase due to price.