Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Sunseeker]

About that.

U.S. Homes Are Not Selling, and Prices Continue to Rise

The NYTimes cites the NAR, saying



"Surely this is not a magical new event that happened the second Trump took office."

It is not. But making new homes more expensive by putting tariffs on building materials will make it worse. Rising prices in general leading to inflation will make it worse. And, while this is unrealistic, firing Powell and just dictating that the fed rate is 1% will make things worse.

"Why would a 1% mortgage rate be bad for buyers?"

Oh, it wouldn't. It would mean no banks gave loans. Why would anyone give a 1% rate loan, with or without collateral, when the rate of inflation was 2.7%? Trump would be dictating that all banks that give loans or renegotiate loans (his end game) will lose large piles of money. Nobody can afford a house now, and if there are no mortgages, that will get worse.

NAR is lying. Theres tons of supply. Builders and agents are conspiring to keep homes off the market in order to inflate prices.

[Captain N]

NAR is lying. Theres tons of supply. Builders and agents are conspiring to keep homes off the market in order to inflate prices.

Wasn't there a thing with Blackstone buying up properties, selling them to themselves, and then jacking up the prices of an area as well? Or was that one of the other equity firms that have been mass purchasing real estate?

[Edge-]

Well, The White House is big mad at South Park. Because their whole opening episode of the 27th season was dedicated on bashing on him. Best part is, Paramount(now Skydance since the merger was approved of) just signed a contract for $1.5 billion for 50 episodes over the next 5 years. So I can see a LOT more of this coming since South Park rarely backs down.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...on-1236328272/



Clip on Youtube:

wow they sound like a bunch of whiny bitches over some mean words

what incredibly delicate, sensitive snowflakes. i thought conservatives didn't get hurt by words since words can't hurt you?

[Sunseeker]

Wasn't there a thing with Blackstone buying up properties, selling them to themselves, and then jacking up the prices of an area as well? Or was that one of the other equity firms that have been mass purchasing real estate?

While working in real estate for a brief time I saw the Agency owners conspiring with the builders to take houses off the market if they didnt sell within like, 2 weeks, and either slow-roll them out or turn them into rentals.

Theres plenty of supply. Its just being artifically restricted to keel prices high so builders can charge higher prices and realtors can make bigger commissions. Half the reason prices are so high is because realtors literally wont even bother with sub 300k homes and buyers who want them due to not making enough money from the sale.

Oh, and the NAR collusion 3% thing is totally legit and nothing has changed since they "settled". Its actually worse now.

[Breccia]

wow they sound like a bunch of whiny bitches over some mean words

Fuck their feelings.

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Trump's lawsuit is going to get ugly real quick. The NYTimes independently saw the Epstein birthday book and listed Trump as a contributor.

[DarkTZeratul]

Trump's lawsuit is going to get ugly real quick. The NYTimes independently saw the Epstein birthday book and listed Trump as a contributor.

I think it's probably safe to assume this isn't going to go away as quickly as they hoped, or as some people feared.

[Captain N]

Trump's lawsuit is going to get ugly real quick. The NYTimes independently saw the Epstein birthday book and listed Trump as a contributor.

One more thing that poll about how Trump is handling immigration on the bottom of that article is pretty telling. Nearly 70% of people who get their news from the Washington Examiner tend to be racist shitheads that think making brown people disappear is Trump doing a good job. I mean that's what their own poll says so it might be true, right?

[Xyonai]

I think it's probably safe to assume this isn't going to go away as quickly as they hoped, or as some people feared.

As one of those folks who feared this was gonna get buried once the Talking heads got their orders in, I wasn't expecting us to get drip fed bombshells that - I feel - should've been disclosed years ago. Like it seems like -someone- out there is sick enough with Trump that they're willing to pull the 'Epstein Lever' to watch him politically drown.

[Fugus]

Are you really surprised that those who made their career on toxic masculinity are right wing? Only exceptions I can think of, sorta, are Sly and Arnie, and Sly went trump last year. (I know Arnie is a republican but that seems to be in name only cause he seems to disagree with literally EVERYTHING republicans hold dear.)

No, he is an actual Republican who believed what he said decades ago and didn’t change it. Remember when he ran California into the ground when he brought in a republican majority with him.

He is a good man, but his politics are shit. He hates Trump because he doesn’t like authoritarians or bullies.

But if he actually ran stuff, we would be skyrocketing the deficit. Not as bad as Trump is trying to do. But he did turn California into a red state that couldn’t even pay its own bills till the democrats drained the swamp and started cleaning up his mess.

[Mayhem]

About that.

U.S. Homes Are Not Selling, and Prices Continue to Rise

The NYTimes cites the NAR, saying



"Surely this is not a magical new event that happened the second Trump took office."

It is not. But making new homes more expensive by putting tariffs on building materials will make it worse. Rising prices in general leading to inflation will make it worse. And, while this is unrealistic, firing Powell and just dictating that the fed rate is 1% will make things worse.

"Why would a 1% mortgage rate be bad for buyers?"

Oh, it wouldn't. It would mean no banks gave loans. Why would anyone give a 1% rate loan, with or without collateral, when the rate of inflation was 2.7%? Trump would be dictating that all banks that give loans or renegotiate loans (his end game) will lose large piles of money. Nobody can afford a house now, and if there are no mortgages, that will get worse.

The invisible hand is hard at invisibling. Sales drop, prices continue to rise. Welcome to opposite world.

[DarkTZeratul]

As one of those folks who feared this was gonna get buried once the Talking heads got their orders in, I wasn't expecting us to get drip fed bombshells that - I feel - should've been disclosed years ago. Like it seems like -someone- out there is sick enough with Trump that they're willing to pull the 'Epstein Lever' to watch him politically drown.

The really stupid part is that like 90% of this is not new information. It was all out there years ago and nobody cared. Now, suddenly, people do, and are acting like finding out what everyone knew all along is some big revelation.

But, better late than never, I guess.

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No, he is an actual Republican who believed what he said decades ago and didn’t change it. Remember when he ran California into the ground when he brought in a republican majority with him.

He is a good man, but his politics are shit. He hates Trump because he doesn’t like authoritarians or bullies.

But if he actually ran stuff, we would be skyrocketing the deficit. Not as bad as Trump is trying to do. But he did turn California into a red state that couldn’t even pay its own bills till the democrats drained the swamp and started cleaning up his mess.

It is a bit more complicated than that. His financial management may have been shit, but Arnold also proposed legislation to combat climate change, institute universal healthcare, and legalize marijuana. Somewhat weirdly, he vetoed legislation to legalize same-sex marriage but also opposed legislation to constitutionally ban it. And he helped pass the anti-gerrymandering bill that moved redistricting power from the state legislature to an independent bipartisan committee.

He calls himself a Republican, but he's more of that very rare person who's actually a centrist.

[s_bushido]

The really stupid part is that like 90% of this is not new information. It was all out there years ago and nobody cared. Now, suddenly, people do, and are acting like finding out what everyone knew all along is some big revelation.

But, better late than never, I guess.

Yeah, but the tinfoil hat about "somebody" being tired of Trump's shit seems to make sense, given that up till these past few months he wasn't really threatening to destabilize the global economy/destroy the value of the dollar/make investing in the States toxic for the foreseeable future. I can definitely see plenty of "somebodies" being all "ok...it's time to get rid of this fucking clown."

But either way, yes. All of this garbage should have been disqualifying a decade ago. And would have been in a country where half the voting population wasn't completely braindead, and the other half was actually paying attention.

[Iphie]

No, he is an actual Republican who believed what he said decades ago and didn’t change it. Remember when he ran California into the ground when he brought in a republican majority with him.

He is a good man, but his politics are shit. He hates Trump because he doesn’t like authoritarians or bullies.

But if he actually ran stuff, we would be skyrocketing the deficit. Not as bad as Trump is trying to do. But he did turn California into a red state that couldn’t even pay its own bills till the democrats drained the swamp and started cleaning up his mess.

Him running the state into the ground financially is pretty on brand for rerpublicans I'll admit but his social policies are, if my recollection is correct, anything but republican. (Pro social security, not fundamentally opposed to LGTBQ+ rights, pro climate change education, and so on.)

[alach]

Man, trust the South Park guys to show they have bigger balls than the heads of CBS and ABC and every other media outlet that has capitulated to trump - days after making a sweetheart deal for a billion and a half fuckyou dollars. Genius play. Can't wait to see how thin-skin Grimace reacts to this one.
And if anyone needs a light pick-me-up after a rough day, here, have some quotes from trump at an AI conference yesterday, continuing to prove day in and day out that hes a bumbling, babbling fool that is out of his depth.

So we're paying zero, they're paying 15. We're getting $550 billion. And to be exact, it's 90% of that, but we control the whole lot of it. And it's really been great, and they're very happy. And their stock market went up and our stock market went up, and that's supposed to be the way it is. Ours went way up, and theirs went up.

Every one in this room practically I know has competed very successfully. I haven't seen any and I know the losers just like I know the winners, I tell you. I don't see any of the losers here. But now if some of the countries that pay 25% or more on orders complain, remember that Japan was willing to pay upfront the $550 billion for that privilege of negotiating with the United States of America.

But I want to thank some of the incredible people that I see before me, including White House AI Czar, David Sacks. He's been great for organizing this very important summit, and especially for putting it in DC where it's a little bit easier. I don't know if it's easy for you, but it's a hell of a lot easier for me. Along with his colleagues at the All-In Podcast, which is very good. I did that podcast a year and a half ago and I said, "This is something." It was pretty new, pretty raw. Everybody I knew saw that podcast. I said, "Well, he's got something pretty good. Who is that guy?" He is a smart guy, by the way.

I think if I ever get in, which at the time people were saying I had a shot, not as good a shot as it turned out. We wanted numbers that nobody believes. We won every swing state. We won by millions and millions of votes, winning the popular vote. We won with the districts as they would call them, 2,750 to 505, and that's why the map is almost completely red except for a couple of little blue areas on each side of it.

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Yeah, OTOH, the warrior princess is a goddess and she's more than willing to spar with Sorbo and call his dumbass out on Twitter all the time.

As to the original question of who is the biggest star. Isn't Clint Eastwood still alive?

Also, IMDB has a list of "Conservative Celebrities" and some of the names are rather surprising as they clearly prefer to keep their Conservatives views somewhat closeted because a few of these people I had no idea but seeing their names on the list, not surprising based on some of the company they keep.

1- Tom Selleck
2- Sylvester Stallone
3- Bruce Willis (Will be dead soon, LOL)
4- Dwayne Johnson (I actually forgot he went anti-woke last year)
5- Heather Locklear
6- Clint Eastwood (Probably will be dead soon, LOL)
7- Adam Sandler (IMO, probably the biggest closeted Trump Support considering his friends)
8- Dennis Miller (Washed Up, Actually Googled him and clicked News and the top story was some random dude's obituary in Grand Rapids MI, LOL)
9- Kelsey Grammer
10- Bo Derek (Home wrecking cunt)
11- Patricia Heaton (Her and her husband are known sexual assaulters)
12- Drew Carey (Apparently Libertarian who votes Republican most of the time but at least he endorsed Kamala/Walz)
13- Cindy Crawford (I don't believe she is a Republican and maybe on this list because there is a politician with the same name)
14- Kevin Sorbo (Skull so thick it causes back problems)
15- Meat Loaf (LOL Dead)
16- Scott Baio (Washed up, known for Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2 in the top slot on his IMDB)
17- Tony Danza (Anti-Trumper, so I'm okay with him)
18- Pat Sajak (Irrelevant)
19- Alex Trebek (LOL Dead)
20- Chuck Norris (Disappointing to see so many action stars of old being right-wingers)
21- Dean Cain (The worst Superman)
22- Ben Stein
23- Vince Vaughn
24- Owen Wilson (Kind of wish he succeeded his last attempt)


Once it gets beyond that, we're really like solid C-List or lower tier or dead, LOL.

Really surprised at some of those names. Not surprised in the least at others. Heather Locklear fits the perfect conservative blond woman sterotype.

[Mayhem]

Dude, I have tried to figure out what Trump was saying in these three quotes but I can basically just guess. Is the 90% number what he thinks the US gets from a loan with 10% interest? Also the we're paying zero they're paying 15 part is his continued lack of understanding tariffs, right?

[alach]

Dude, I have tried to figure out what Trump was saying in these three quotes but I can basically just guess. Is the 90% number what he thinks the US gets from a loan with 10% interest? Also the we're paying zero they're paying 15 part is his continued lack of understanding tariffs, right?

I tried to read a lot of it and ended up with a migraine and actually felt dumber. It needs so sort of trump to English translator. If you are feeling brave and want to glimpse into the donkey-mind of a manbaby heres the link;
https://www.techpolicy.press/transcr...ai-race-event/
I swear he would have lost that election if more people had showed up for his rallies only to realize what a dumbass he is.

[Valdhammer]

Dude, I have tried to figure out what Trump was saying in these three quotes but I can basically just guess. Is the 90% number what he thinks the US gets from a loan with 10% interest? Also the we're paying zero they're paying 15 part is his continued lack of understanding tariffs, right?

Why are you wasting your time? There is usually no connection between his statements and reality. And that’s served him very well, so why start making sense now?

[Draco-Onis]

Dude, I have tried to figure out what Trump was saying in these three quotes but I can basically just guess. Is the 90% number what he thinks the US gets from a loan with 10% interest? Also the we're paying zero they're paying 15 part is his continued lack of understanding tariffs, right?

It's a 400 Billion dollar loan at 10% interest and Trump sharpied it to 550 billion dollars with only 10% of profits paid to Japan. He also changed the tariff rate from 10% to 15%, the important part is that he has really fucked the Japanese prime minister whose job is hanging by a thread. Japan hates Trump and doesn't look like they are getting bullied which is why the nationalist party went from 1 seat to 14. There's a big chance he loses his job as PM and it's not really a deal, there's a high chance it doesn't even get to their new congress which would shut down a deal too favorable to the US.

[Mayhem]

Why are you wasting your time? There is usually no connection between his statements and reality. And that’s served him very well, so why start making sense now?

I'm basically waiting for answers on two emails and yeah, I have literally nothing else to do.

[alach]

So while trump is getting involved in sport's teams names, federal buildings renovations, University policies and many other pointless issues that a president really shouldn't be involved with, the prices continue to climb. So, along with the other things pointed out already, here comes an American staple, beef.
Beef prices at all-time high: Why summer grilling costs a lot more this year

This year’s Labor Day barbecue won’t be cheap.

Supply constraints and high demand have driven up the cost of beef, with 100% ground beef prices in June surpassing $6 per pound for the first time since data collection started in the 1980s, according to the Labor Department.

While costs may dip slightly once grilling season ends, experts say significant price relief could be years away.

Boy, if I voted for this guy to bring the prices down and it seems he is doing everything except that, I would be pretty angry.