Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Milchshake]

It'll be funny when ICE guys get preferential admissions to Brown/Columbia and other Ivies, then get all that studen debt forgiven.

Grats again to the conservative Asian Americans that sued to take down Affirmative Action.

[Timester]

I would prefer Emperor Joker, honestly.

[alach]

I'm not at my computer now but apparently Trump's tariffs have cost the American auto industry billions.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/big...pact-1.7597859

Apologies if this was reported, but as great the economy tbe conservatives are boasting about there is some serious issues brewing underneath the surface.
Of course those issues don't matter if you do t really care because you are already super rich, or if you are an idiot.


Next time... Ukraine news!

[Kathandira]

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...trump-00484885



i thought it was unconstitutional to do this?

republicans sued biden like 20 times over his multiple attempts to do this

but now i guess it's constitutional because donald wants to do it?

wonder if any republicans will sue over it this time, since they sure thought it was a gross overreach of executive authority the previous four years

given CBP and ICE have already struggled with hiring people who can read or who aren't also drug/sex traffickers i think their goal of hiring 10K more ICE officers is pretty ambitious, but who knows, maybe those are features for potential hires nowadays

What they could do, is take those they are deporting, and offer them jobs with ICE as a pathway to citizenship!

lol j/k

[Edge-]

The Department of Defense has reversed a decision to stop sharing satellite weather data that hurricane forecasters rely on.

In June, the Navy announced that it would stop sharing the crucial information about storms, as peak hurricane season loomed in the Atlantic. In response, scientists and weather forecasters expressed fear that the missing data could lead to less accurate and timely hurricane forecasts.

The Navy's Fleet Numerical Meteorology and Oceanography Center, which processes and shares the data, "planned to phase out the data as part of a Defense Department modernization effort," a Navy spokesperson wrote in an email to NPR. "But after feedback from government partners, officials found a way to meet modernization goals while keeping the data flowing until the sensor fails or the program formally ends in September 2026."

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/31/nx-s1...ite-hurricanes

Good news!

Weather data will still be shared probably because literally everyone was furious at this self-destructive, stupid fucking move from these stupid fucking white supremacist, incompetent, DUI-hire idiots running this government.

[Breccia]

I'm not at my computer now but apparently Trump's tariffs have cost the American auto industry billions.

Expected yes, directly reported no. Simply put, there are zero US automakers who build their own cars from scratch. All of them import materials and/or parts. Refitting their entire manufacturing to (a) make local parts with local materials and (b) pay US workers to make them will...well, like you said, cost the industry billions, but also drive the prices of cars up beyond whatever the tariff is that hour of that day. It just makes more sense for them to acknowledge that Trump is directly hurting the US auto industry, pass the costs along without question, watch sales suffer, and hope they can bounce back when someone else takes the wheel.

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"But after feedback from government partners"

That is probably the single nicest way of putting it. I think the translation is "we did something short-sighted and stupid, and literally everyone called us out on it".

[Draco-Onis]

Between the brain drain of PhD's jumping ship, us forcing mass emigration, and in general attacking our education system. I think decades is optimistics

Yup countries all over the world are falling all over themselves poaching top American students and researchers. While Trump wants us to be the crypto capital of the world kind of fitting since crypto in his own words is a scam.

[Poopymonster]

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...trump-00484885



i thought it was unconstitutional to do this?

republicans sued biden like 20 times over his multiple attempts to do this

but now i guess it's constitutional because donald wants to do it?

wonder if any republicans will sue over it this time, since they sure thought it was a gross overreach of executive authority the previous four years

given CBP and ICE have already struggled with hiring people who can read or who aren't also drug/sex traffickers i think their goal of hiring 10K more ICE officers is pretty ambitious, but who knows, maybe those are features for potential hires nowadays

For nearly 1600 terrorists, this maybe the only job they can get. That they can be racist is just icing on the cake.

[Nilinor]

For nearly 1600 terrorists, this maybe the only job they can get. That they can be racist is just icing on the cake.

This is kind of reminds me of gestapo recruitment. Get all these benefits to get rid of the "undesirables"

[Breccia]

GOP senators reject Trump’s pitch to use tariff revenue for ‘rebates’

"But that means they're rejecting Trump!"

Oddly enough, they've found a way to do it that, no, they're not.

In 2020, during Trump’s first term, and in 2021, under President Joe Biden, Congress approved three “economic impact payments” to Americans. Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Missouri) introduced a bill Monday modeled after those payments to give taxpayers a $600 tax rebate using tariff revenue, including $600 for each dependent child. Under the proposal, a family of four would receive $2,400.

“Why not reward the working people who have taken it in the shins for the last four years and give them something out of this? I think they need it and deserve it,” Hawley said Tuesday.

But most Republican senators said the first priority should be digging out of debt.

“We’re $37 trillion in debt. We’re running deficits close to $2 trillion. I wouldn’t support it,” Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin) said. “At some point in time, this madness has to end.”

Some senators said tariff rebates aren’t yet needed, because consumer confidence has recently rebounded.

“I just don’t know that they’re necessary. The folks back home don’t feel like they’re being hurt by tariffs, just the opposite. Prices have stabilized,” Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kansas) said. The best use of the tariff funds, he said: “Pay down the debt.”

Sen. James Lankford (R-Oklahoma) said there’s no way to equally divide revenue to help those who have been hit by higher prices from tariffs while bypassing those who haven’t.

“I think it’s a bad idea,” he said.

Most Democrats were quick to call Republicans hypocritical for backing Trump’s tax legislation, which is expected to hurt low-income households’ finances more than it helps them.

“I would support a bill that lowers costs for American families paid for by rolling back those trillions of dollars of tax cuts for billionaires and billionaire corporations,” said Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Massachusetts). “If the Republicans have in mind some way to help families lower costs, I’d like to see it.”

There aren't enough votes for this to pass, and Trump likely knows that. Simply put, Trump said he wanted to balance the budget (yes, he did promise that, no, nobody believed him, but he did promise) then intentionally added $4 trillion to the debt. And give away $2 trillion more based on an income only he controls and hasn't been consistent with. Anyone who actually wants to reduce government spending cannot follow both of these moves, and their attempts to justify this will be summarily dismissed as hypocrisy.

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Republicans: "Hunter Biden took money to do a job! This was clearly bribery to get access for foreign businessmen to then VP Joe Biden! This is corruption that must be handled!"

Also Republicans: "Trump can keep the billion-dollar plane after he leaves office."

I know, Republicans defending blatant bribery isn't even the worst thing they've done today, but it's still worth calling out.

[Edge-]

wait did Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconson say why we're running a massive deficit right now?

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Republicans: "Hunter Biden took money to do a job! This was clearly bribery to get access for foreign businessmen to then VP Joe Biden! This is corruption that must be handled!"

Also Republicans: "Trump can keep the billion-dollar plane after he leaves office."

I know, Republicans defending blatant bribery isn't even the worst thing they've done today, but it's still worth calling out.

they're just allowing the transfer of hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer renovations directly to donald trump

this is corruption out in broad daylight

[Mayhem]

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...trump-00484885



i thought it was unconstitutional to do this?

republicans sued biden like 20 times over his multiple attempts to do this

but now i guess it's constitutional because donald wants to do it?

wonder if any republicans will sue over it this time, since they sure thought it was a gross overreach of executive authority the previous four years

given CBP and ICE have already struggled with hiring people who can read or who aren't also drug/sex traffickers i think their goal of hiring 10K more ICE officers is pretty ambitious, but who knows, maybe those are features for potential hires nowadays

They're going to get the worst of the worst, give them stupid money to blow on shit, most likely drugs, and let them get arrested by police. That's my prediction.

[alach]

Tariffs, ICE, government overreach, gutting healthcare... That is all just fluff and noise.
Here is something that really matters, something that will be forever known as a pivotal part of trump's legacy. Behold, the new Ballroom!

Construction on Trump’s $200 million White House ballroom to begin in September

President Donald Trump has been envisioning a new ballroom on the White House campus for a decade and a half.

His dream is about to become a reality.

Construction will begin in September on a $200 million, 90,000-square-foot ballroom, his press secretary announced Thursday, fulfilling a 15-year ambition by the president to construct an event space on the White House grounds that expands the building’s entertaining capacity — but also resembles the gilded spaces of his private clubs

Truly a man of the people.

[En Sabah Nur]

Why is Triple H now apparently in charge of college football, and I guess they're no longer allowing players to make their own choices in terms of moving?

Trump says Triple H and the rest of his sports commission "will be working on college football in terms of, uh, what happened. It's a mess. What they're doing with college football and the fans are upset about it. Players are being taken from team after team and traded around like playing cards."

And Trump clearly has no fucking clue what he's talking about given how utterly generic he had to go in trying to describe some sort of problem.

[Timester]

Why is Triple H now apparently in charge of college football, and I guess they're no longer allowing players to make their own choices in terms of moving?


And Trump clearly has no fucking clue what he's talking about given how utterly generic he had to go in trying to describe some sort of problem.

Dude, what the actual fuck? Nothing against Triple H, but how is a former wrestler turned main event booker is now in charge of Presidential Fitness Test?

Oh... wait... his mother-in-law is the Secretary of Education. OK, move on.

[En Sabah Nur]

Oh... wait... his mother-in-law is the Secretary of Education. OK, move on.

Jesus, I forgot about that. Yeah, OK, now I get it lol

Quick, someone bring up Hunter Biden nepotism!

[Breccia]

"Players are being taken from team after team and traded around like playing cards."

Okay. Hmm. A lot to unpack here.

First, who trades playing cards?

Second, do college athletes have a team or a school?

Third, yes, college football players transferring between schools is up, it's about double since 2021, because the NCAA created a new rule in 2021 allowing them to do so if they choose. For example, if they think their chances of going pro are better elsewhere, or if they're being treated unfairly. Transferring between schools is messy enough, with or without sports being involved. You wouldn't do that on a whim. But Trump is complaining as if the players have no choice (he thinks it's pro) and as if he thinks it's new (it's higher due to a new rule, yes, it's not new total). And he's complaining about college football, a sport he's never mentioned before, while Ukraine is on fire, inflation is rising, and he slaps higher tariffs on the countries he wrote and signed a deal with not to raise tariffs on.

And, of course, like you said, this is uselessly vague. He recently declared he'd saved college sports because he signed an E.O. to "safeguard the long-term stability of college athletics from endless, debilitating antitrust and other legal challenges"

"What is he talking about?"

The most recent anti-trust lawsuit I could find was a year ago and not involved with college sports in any way, but about non-custodial parents being required to pay tuition. Before that, a suit in 2023 that was actually involving the NCAA. And before that, another lawsuit claiming fishing for higher-donators kids in the applications, that one was settled Jan 2025 but again had nothing to do with college sports. Anti-trust lawsuits against colleges and universities are not endless, they're about one per year, and in sports, even less.

"What will this E.O. actually do? It says nearly nothing."

It will do nearly nothing.

"Why didn't he talk about sharing the college sports revenue from the popular sports with the less popular sports, specifically women's athletics teams? The E.O. is filled with that language. Why did he talk about football when he could have been talking about...uh..."

You were going to say DEI, weren't you?

"...yeah..."

Donald Trump does not respect women. By contrast, he's obsessed with the NFL. Yes, Trump took an E.O. whose purpose was "it's not all always about football" and made it always about football.

"Wait, is Trump trying to protect schools that take legacies, and lie about it?"

That's a fair read of the situation, Trump lies all the time about everything. Trump can't even handle something as minor as an effectively toothless E.O. about a really minor issue correctly.

[Draco-Onis]

US job growth stalls: Just 73,000 jobs added in July, with ‘stunning’ downward revisions to recent months

The US job market slowed substantially in July and was much weaker than previously thought in previous months, suggesting President Donald Trump’s trade policy may be stifling hiring.

The US economy added just 73,000 jobs last month, and the monthly totals for May and June were revised down by a combined 258,000 jobs.

The prior two months’ revisions were “stunning,” said Diane Swonk, chief economist at KPMG, in an interview with CNN.

May’s estimated 144,000 net gain was revised down by 125,000 to 19,000; and June’s preliminary tally of 147,000 was slashed by 133,000 to 14,000, respectively, according to data released Friday from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

A more detailed breakdown shows obvious shenanigans by Trump

The department originally reported that state and local governments had added 64,000 jobs in education in June. After the revisions released Friday, that number fell to below 10,000.

If you still believe that that schools are on a hiring spree during the summer break alongside Trump withholding billions in education funding and cuts then I have a shiny bridge to sell you. This to me officially shows that all the numbers we are getting from the government are bullshit being manipulated to make Trump look good.

[Gorsameth]

US job growth stalls: Just 73,000 jobs added in July, with ‘stunning’ downward revisions to recent months



A more detailed breakdown shows obvious shenanigans by Trump

The department originally reported that state and local governments had added 64,000 jobs in education in June. After the revisions released Friday, that number fell to below 10,000.

If you still believe that that schools are on a hiring spree during the summer break alongside Trump withholding billions in education funding and cuts then I have a shiny bridge to sell you. This to me officially shows that all the numbers we are getting from the government are bullshit being manipulated to make Trump look good.

So... about that estimated 3% growth in q2

lol

[Breccia]

the monthly totals for May and June were revised down by a combined 258,000 jobs.

Isn't 250,000 a good month? Did the revision just remove an entire month plus? And also, how do you feel about leading questions?