Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Draco-Onis]

Isn't 250,000 a good month? Did the revision just remove an entire month plus? And also, how do you feel about leading questions?

I think you misread it's for two months.

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So... about that estimated 3% growth in q2

lol

I am sure GDP and inflation numbers are going to be better than expected they will be written with a big beautiful marker so we can get the "real numbers" in bold.

[Breccia]

So... about that estimated 3% growth in q2

I think at this point, it's safe to say "let's wait for the revisions". But as I've already posted, 3% for Q2 isn't the real picture. 1.25% in 2025 is. If Trump was lying to inflate his penis size, I mean GDP numbers, he didn't inflate them far enough.

And most reasonable people are following your example.

Imports then dropped in the second quarter of the year as double-digit tariffs took effect, making the spring GDP figure look somewhat rosier. Exports also fell during the quarter.

Consumer spending, which is the biggest driver of economic activity, rose at an annual rate of 1.4% in the spring. Business and residential investment were down during the quarter, while spending by state and local governments rose.

Real final sales to private domestic purchasers — which strips out trade and government spending — grew at an annual rate of 1.2% in the second quarter, compared to 1.9% in the first three months of the year.

Simply put, if you directly look at any aspect of financial growth, they're all lackluster. Right now, most measurable forms of growth are lower than inflation. I suppose some could have inflation factored in, but that'd still be sub-2% and therefore lower than the numbers Trump said were bad.

And, yep, exports are down.

"We expect the economy to lose more momentum," said Samuel Tombs of Pantheon Macroeconomics. He's projecting annualized GDP growth of only about 1% in the second half of the year, as consumers wrestle with increased prices for imported goods and businesses respond to uncertainty over the Trump administration's economic policies.

"Well that's just NPR and they're biased because Trump fired them without cause!"

Okay. Sure. Rebound in US economic growth in second quarter masks underlying slowing trend. Good luck with that one, Reuters is international.

U.S. economic growth rebounded more than expected in the second quarter, but that measurement grossly overstated the economy's health as declining imports accounted for the bulk of the improvement and domestic demand increased at its slowest pace in 2-1/2 years.

Hey, remember how everyone said the Q1 drop was due to import blitzing and that they were stockpiled? Turns out, everyone was right. Oh, and Reuters mentions every single number NPR does plus a few others.

Even Americans aren't buying American. This is what Trump did on purpose. See you in the stock market crash thread.

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I think you misread it's for two months.

I did not. I was saying that 250,000 jobs in a month would be a good month, therefore, we just lost a very good month's worth of growth. At least we did on paper, those jobs apparently never existed at all.

Apologies if that wasn't clear.

[Draco-Onis]

I think at this point, it's safe to say "let's wait for the revisions". But as I've already posted, 3% for Q2 isn't the real picture. 1.25% in 2025 is. If Trump was lying to inflate his penis size, I mean GDP numbers, he didn't inflate them far enough.

Dude why would you stay this? are you trying to jinx us? You obviously don't realize we live in the worst reality get ready for 49% GDP growth.

[Breccia]

Dude why would you stay this? are you trying to jinx us?

I mean, if I have magical power over the GDP of the entire country I promise to use my powers for evil. But for 2025 to hit 3%, Q2 would have to be revised over six percent. If that happens, I'll bake a batch of chocolate chip cookies and mail them to you.

[Milchshake]

This is so dumb on so many levels.

• Conservatives really hate the idea of graphic design, composition, layouts.
• Commrades, that is indeed a Lada. But it never came in banana yellew, that was a color of the bourgiose.
• Trump is going to take credit for solving all those murders that happened in Gorky Park.

[Gorsameth]

drive the automobile industry, by taxing all the parts that need to be imported to actually make the 'American car'. No one actually builds a car from mined ore to finished product in the country.

[Belize]

This is so dumb on so many levels.

• Conservatives really hate the idea of graphic design, composition, layouts.
• Commrades, that is indeed a Lada. But it never came in banana yellew, that was a color of the bourgiose.
• Trump is going to take credit for solving all those murders that happened in Gorky Park.

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Using a Lada is honestly pretty representative of what the future of the U.S. is tbh

Cheap, nasty cars with 0 fuel efficiency that were produced for much longer than they should have due to the oligarchy syphoning any R&D money for themselves.

[Edge-]

This is so dumb on so many levels.

• Conservatives really hate the idea of graphic design, composition, layouts.
• Commrades, that is indeed a Lada. But it never came in banana yellew, that was a color of the bourgiose.
• Trump is going to take credit for solving all those murders that happened in Gorky Park.

graphic design is the passion of the GOP and the Daily Signal

and automobiles

you can tell because they put an all-American, American-built vehicle in the picture.

i'm not even a fucking car guy and i know what the fuck that car is roflmao conservatives are just the worst cosplay everything.

[Breccia]

This is so dumb on so many levels.

Ford Is Latest Carmaker to Blame Tariffs for Profit Slump

Ford Motor said Tuesday that it lost money in the second quarter as tariffs took a toll on its business. The company also said it expected tariffs to cost it a total of $2 billion this year.

The automaker lost $36 million from April through June, compared with a profit of $1.8 billion a year earlier, even as sales rose 5 percent to $50.2 billion.

Tariffs imposed by Trump have been a recurring theme as automakers have reported earnings this month. General Motors, Stellantis, Tesla, Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen have all cited tariffs as one of the main reasons their profits are falling.

Tariffs lopped $800 million from Ford profits during the second quarter, the company said. Its estimate of $2 billion in tariff costs for the year includes the impact of cost-cutting and other measures the company is taking in response to Mr. Trump’s trade policies.

Oh, and @Gorsameth you were saying?

Ford must pay tariffs even though it makes most of its vehicles in the United States because, like all carmakers, it uses imported parts and materials. Those include tariffs of 50 percent on imported steel and aluminum.

Not every single dime Ford, and others, will lose is because of tariffs, or related features like "Trump increased inflation in public on purpose so we have to cut down on expenses" more commonly known as "Trump take egg!" But the fact that Ford alone will lose $2 billion from tariffs alone should make it very easy for them to say "to all you union workers we were forced to lay off, maybe next time don't vote for Trump."

And of course the union workers will say "we didn't, you voted for Trump, the profits you lost are your fault and should be your problem not ours."

And then Ford will just shrug and say "it's a good thing Trump lets us fire union workers."

[Xyonai]

This is so dumb on so many levels.

• Conservatives really hate the idea of graphic design, composition, layouts.
• Commrades, that is indeed a Lada. But it never came in banana yellew, that was a color of the bourgiose.
• Trump is going to take credit for solving all those murders that happened in Gorky Park.

Honestly at this point I'm glad and surprised it's not yet more AI Generated Slop.

[Iphie]

Using a Lada is honestly pretty representative of what the future of the U.S. is tbh

Cheap, nasty cars with 0 fuel efficiency that were produced for much longer than they should have due to the oligarchy syphoning any R&D money for themselves.

Could've been worse, could've used a Trabi.

[Edge-]

https://people.com/trump-removed-smi...dents-11783332

After Donald Trump's administration seized control of the Smithsonian Institution's messaging in March, the iconic museum network has been accused of rewriting history.

On July 31, The Washington Post reported on the recent change to an exhibit at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History titled "The American Presidency: A Glorious Burden." A section of the display is dedicated to the U.S. presidents who have faced impeachment, and includes information about Andrew Jackson, Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon. (While Jackson and Clinton were successfully impeached, Nixon resigned the presidency before getting to that point.)

Since September 2021, the exhibit had featured a temporary label about Trump's two impeachments along with a notice for visitors, which read “Case under redesign (history happens).”

The Post reports that the label was removed in July "as part of a content review that the Smithsonian agreed to undertake following pressure from the White House to remove an art museum director." Without reference to Trump, the exhibit has now reverted back to suggesting that “only three presidents have seriously faced removal.”

donald trump is trying to rewrite history now.

weird for the party that cries a lot about the removal of public monuments glorifying traitors erected long after their deaths, as if those are super important for history or something

continues to be fascism 101, baby

[btlcryct]

Ford Is Latest Carmaker to Blame Tariffs for Profit Slump

I vote we call this the Tslump going forward. Figure it's fitting since Ts- is a common Russian prefix such as Tsar Bomba. Fits with Trump's affinity for all things Russian.

[En Sabah Nur]

How to tell Trump didn't like the reality of the numbers put out lol This manchild is so predictable.

[Edge-]

"reality isn't conforming to my fantasies! don't believe reality, believe what i say instead!" continued to shout the fascist

[Dontrike]

"reality isn't conforming to my fantasies! don't believe reality, believe what i say instead!" continued to shout the fascist

Reality has a left leaning bias.

[Belize]

Could've been worse, could've used a Trabi.

I would have accepted a Polski Fiat 126 if we're using Soviet era cars

[LeGin v4]

Don’t like the figures? Sack the statistician!

Fucking brilliant

[diller]

He fucking fired the guy for posting actual numbers!!!!

[Paranoid Android]

US job growth stalls: Just 73,000 jobs added in July, with ‘stunning’ downward revisions to recent months



A more detailed breakdown shows obvious shenanigans by Trump

The department originally reported that state and local governments had added 64,000 jobs in education in June. After the revisions released Friday, that number fell to below 10,000.

If you still believe that that schools are on a hiring spree during the summer break alongside Trump withholding billions in education funding and cuts then I have a shiny bridge to sell you. This to me officially shows that all the numbers we are getting from the government are bullshit being manipulated to make Trump look good.

Trump fires official of Bureau of Labor Statistics for poor job numbers. Obviously they are fake.


https://bsky.app/profile/nytimes.com/post/3lveeh36icp2c

I guess NPR is done, done.

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/...6-fa7d1d35936d