Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Xyonai]

Others have pointed it out, but they literally Do. Not. Care. About disenfranchisement or increased government overreach or brutalizing minorities or stripping rights away from women or LGBTQ people or the downspiraling situation in Gaza. Hell they may actively applaud any of those things, you’re basically saying to them “cheerleading exactly what you wanted” and expecting some form of shame from them, and while they may wish to coyly not admit it, they’re inwardly beaming that they couldn’t be stopped and you recognize that.

So you have to hit them on what they do care about: the fact that the economy was better under Biden. And none of Trump’s policies or planning or words or actions thus far are doing anything to change that as prices increase, inflation looms and consumer spending falters.

I mean I know the poster is fundamentally unserious, but you're otherwise correct. Conservatives want their gestapo enforced police state because it's a political movement so brain-dead they cannot visualize law enforcement and crime reduction working without it being done at the barrel of a gun. And who better to enforce their fucked up version of 'law and order' than a petty tyrant who'll pat them on the head and tell them they're all good little boys and girls who no longer need to ever dread the thought of ever actually thinking for themselves anymore.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

You're dead set on never being taken seriously ever again, aren't you?

Sorry, had to fix that for you....no one has ever taken this clown seriously.

[fwc577]

The results speak for themselves.

It's ok to root for good results, even if you dislike Trump.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/davi...dems-trump-did

Yup, they totally do speak for themselves. It shows us that the police force is useless and needs to be defunded immediately because they've been unable to control the chaos in our cities.

What needs to replace them are well trained individuals. We don't need these six month police academy, military rejects running around playing pretend soldier in civilian areas because they're clearly NOT soldiers and they cannot do anything to stop or contain the violence.

At some point, our police force became the antitheses of protect & serve and it has now become the cleanup crew.

Time to fire all police and defund all police.

[alach]

On top of everything else, I would seriously question the source.
This was from yesterday;

Newly unredacted filings in the $2.7 billion defamation lawsuit brought by voting technology company Smartmatic against Fox News have revealed private messages sent by Fox personalities and executives in the weeks after the 2020 presidential election.

The communications, disclosed through court filings, shed light on how some of the network's most prominent figures discussed the fraud claims they later covered on air.

Fox News has consistently denied Smartmatic's allegations. In court filings and public statements, the network has argued that it was reporting on "newsworthy" statements made by the president and his lawyers, not endorsing them.
The newly disclosed text messages go to the heart of Smartmatic's defamation case against Fox News, highlighting a disconnect between the private doubts of network hosts and the on-air amplification of election fraud claims.

For Smartmatic, the contrast supports its argument that Fox acted with "actual malice" by prioritizing ratings and audience retention over verified reporting. For Fox, the lawsuit tests its defense that covering statements from a sitting president and his lawyers was protected, newsworthy journalism.

The case follows Fox's earlier $787.5 million settlement with Dominion Voting Systems in 2023, which also centered on the network's coverage of election fraud claims. Unlike Dominion, Smartmatic operates primarily outside the United States, but the company alleges that Fox's broadcasts caused significant reputational and financial harm.

The outcome could have broad implications for how courts weigh press freedom against accountability for misinformation in high-stakes political coverage.

Theres a lot more, including how Jesse Watters put ratings above the truth and promoting trump because it got viewers, all once again proving Fox is not a serious news organization. Link.

Wrong thread? Apologies in advance.

[Dontrike]

Trump calls his Russia Daddy for a late night talk, but Putin only gives his cock holster 15 minutes.

Vladimir Putin gave Donald Trump a strict 15-minute window to make a late-night phone call to the Kremlin after White House peace talks with Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told Laura Ingraham that after his discussions with Zelensky and a host of European leaders on Monday, Trump wanted to call Putin to organize a meeting with the Ukrainian president.

Putin told Trump he was about to go to bed and if he couldn’t call him right away he could contact him the next day instead.

“Look, it was very late in Moscow,” Bessent explained on Fox’s The Ingraham Angle. “President Putin was open to meeting with President Zelensky and as you know President Trump is very persuasive, they had just met.”

HAHAHAHAHA

Trump had made it clear he was keen to lock in a meeting between Putin and Zelensky after his discussion with European leaders this week on ending Russia’s war on Ukraine.

When asked if Putin was staying up to wait for the call from Trump, Bessent said, “Well, the president gave him the option, ‘I could call or send a message’ and Putin said ‘Well, I will be up for 15 more minutes or you can call tomorrow’. And I think Putin wanted the call that night. So that showed he was eager to hear what the president had to say.”

On Tuesday, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said that during his pre-bedtime phone call with Trump, Putin agreed to “begin the next phase of the peace process—a meeting between President Putin and President Zelensky.“

The NEXT PHASE? I didn't know we were on any phase. Is this the phase where the whelps come out?

However, comments from Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov suggest the meeting has yet to be locked in on Putin’s end. “Any contacts involving top officials must be prepared with the utmost care,” Lavrov said on Tuesday. “We do not refuse any forms of work—neither bilateral nor trilateral.”

On Tuesday, Trump said on Truth Social that the meeting between Putin and Zelensky would happen “at a location to be determined.” The Washington Post suggested the Hungarian capital Budapest could be a possible option. That would be followed by a trilateral meeting of the two presidents joined by Trump.

Bessent told The Ingraham Angle that Trump wants to be a peacemaker.

“He has done six peace deals. He knows how to do this. He went in with a plan, we had a long pre-game in the Oval (Office) beforehand. He had a strategy the whole time,” Bessent said.

“They understand that President Trump is the only person in the world who can stop this conflict,” he added.

In an interview on Tuesday night, Trump said he wanted Putin and Zelensky to meet on their own first to clear the air.

If you're going to lie, don't do it six times in one sentence.

“I thought it would be better if they met without me, just to see. I want to see what goes on,” the president told The Mark Levin Show.

“You know, they had a hard relationship, very bad, very bad relationship. And now we’ll see how they do and, if necessary, and it probably would be, but if necessary, I’ll go and I’ll probably be able to get it closed.”

He added, “I just want to see what happens at the meeting. So they’re in the process of setting it up, and we’re going to see what happens.”

U.S. envoy Steve Witkoff claimed on Tuesday that Russia has made “concessions almost immediately” following Trump and Putin’s meeting in Alaska last week.

“We stayed there for quite some time because we actually made progress on how we might get to a peace deal,” Witkoff told Fox News. “The president began to sense in this meeting in Alaska that we had a lot of the precursors agreed to for a peace deal, so why not pursue an entire peace deal?”

What fucking concessions were that? Is the concession "I'll suck you off more if you say I'm a tough boy?"


Just a reminder about Russia

Putin's in a failed Oil and Gas state
With an upside down democracy
25% unemployment
High Alcoholism
The economy has shrunk 14% in 3 years
It is below the GDP of Italy


But he is still having his ass kissed by the Pedophile of the United States

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Guys! There's finally proof of voter fraud. FINALLY! Trump has been proven right.

What proof is there?

Dead people said so.

Representative Jeff Van Drew was so worked up about voter fraud on Tuesday that he looked like he had seen a ghost—the politically active kind.

During an interview on Fox Business, the New Jersey Republican shared his opinion on mail-in ballots, one day after President Donald Trump pledged to ban the process ahead of the 2026 midterms.

Van Drew said that the 2020 election, when mail-in voting was expanded, was a “debacle” and that “sometimes people would have multiple ballots sent to different addresses.”

“Other times, people who are passed away—these are real people I spoke to, large numbers of them, and it’s indicative of what happened around the country.”

The claim that dead people voted in the 2020 election is a popular one among right-leaning election deniers, including President Donald Trump. But Van Drew is one of the first to say he spoke to some of these dearly departed electors.

There's more to the article, but it's just pedophiles trying to say how voting by mail is somehow bad, because Republicans hate when people can do something that might stop them from being able to gargle their briber's nards.

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Somehow, in the same breath that was unfortunately not his last one, Trump says Israel's leader is a "war hero," and "good man," and that Trump himself must be one too. You know, because of those six wars, which definitely existed, were definitely stopped because they definitely existed.

President Donald Trump hailed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as a “war hero” — and suggested he deserves the same acclaim.

Trump made the comments in an interview with conservative radio host Mark Levin, a staunch Israel advocate, that was aired on Tuesday.

The president praised the Israeli leader as a “good man” as he discussed working with Netanyahu to free the remaining hostages held by Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

Referencing how Netanyahu faces calls to be prosecuted on war crime charges, Trump continued: “He’s in there fighting, they’re trying to put him in jail on top of everything else, how about that? He’s a war hero because we worked together. He’s a war hero. I guess I am too.”

Trump added that “nobody cares, but I am too. I sent those planes,” a reference to U.S. airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities in June.

Trump has lately attempted to cast himself as a global peacemaker who has ended six wars, though his claims are contested.

In the interview, the president complained about not getting enough credit for ordering the Iran strikes, nor for his more recent interventions around the world.

Trump said: “I’ve settled six wars, and we did Iran, and I wiped out their total nuclear capability, which they would have used against Israel in two seconds if they had the chance.”

Trump, 79, has never fought in a war or served in the military, and famously received five deferments from the draft during the Vietnam War.

He was initially allowed to sit out with educational deferments and, ultimately, a medical exemption because of “bone spurs.”

In 2018, the New York Times reported that the two daughters of a Queens podiatrist claimed that their late father diagnosed the future president with bone spurs as a favor to his landlord, Trump’s father, Fred Trump.

Trump joked to Howard Stern in 1997 that the numerous women he slept with during his single years constituted his “personal Vietnam” because of the risks he faced catching sexually transmitted diseases.

The president has also taken a dim view of politicians who are hailed as war heroes.

In 2015, Trump criticized the military record of late Sen. John McCain, a prisoner of war during Vietnam, contending, “He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

Former Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), an Air Force veteran, criticized Trump’s latest comments.

“You can like what he’s done. That’s fine. I hope he gets a resolution in Ukraine,” he told CNN on Tuesday. “But to put himself on the same level of people that have actually gone out and served this country, not claimed bone spurs, is an offense to anybody who served.”

[postman1782]

The results speak for themselves.

It's ok to root for good results, even if you dislike Trump.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/davi...dems-trump-did

Why are you ignorant enough to believe Fox or Trump?

[Azadina]

There's way too much lead in this leader.

I must respectfully, but strongly disagree. There isn't enough lead in him...so far.

[Kaleredar]

Why are you ignorant enough to believe Fox or Trump?

It’s even dumber than that; crime has been trending downwards for a long time, through multiple administrations.

It’s like saying “wolf attacks hit all time low, must be due to Trump!”

Any “good” metric coming out of the Trump administration can be chocked up to one he simply hasn’t gotten around to fucking up yet.

[postman1782]

It’s even dumber than that; crime has been trending downwards for a long time, through multiple administrations.

It’s like saying “wolf attacks hit all time low, must be due to Trump!”

Any “good” metric coming out of the Trump administration can be chocked up to one he simply hasn’t gotten around to fucking up yet.

Yep, its like Trump taking credit for what Biden started with the border with his executive order.

[tehdang]

It’s even dumber than that; crime has been trending downwards for a long time, through multiple administrations.

It’s like saying “wolf attacks hit all time low, must be due to Trump!”

Any “good” metric coming out of the Trump administration can be chocked up to one he simply hasn’t gotten around to fucking up yet.

Funnily enough, the DC police department currently has an employee out on leave for allegedly falsifying violent crime statistics and ordering his subordinates to do the same. For allegations going back to 2020, no less.

DC Police department settles with whistleblower after lawsuit

Literally falsifying crime statistics going back to before Trump was re-elected, then standing on them to try to pull out some police-state narrative. The depositions are pretty ridiculous. The police department downgraded charges because all the higherups and political leadership look good when crime looks like it's going down.

NBC news even reported on this prior to Trump's election

Washington has legitimately become a national outlier on violent crime, making 2023 the city’s deadliest in more than two decades, even as violent crime dropped in nearly every other city in America. Nearby Baltimore, for instance, infamous for its crime and blight portrayed in “The Wire,” saw its biggest drop in homicides on record last year.

In Washington, though, shootings, homicides and carjackings all soared, spilling into neighborhoods that have typically been spared that kind of violence, including the downtown area occupied by office workers, and making many longtime residents feel unsafe for the first time.

The nuance doesn't serve the political moment. That's why the scandal and settlement and suspension have to be ignored in favor of hitting Trump with whatever bullshit is at hand. It's just handing Trump free wins by drawing attention to settlement/suspension related to deliberately falsifying crime statistics in DC.

[En Sabah Nur]

It got her a big girl job, I guess, so good for her... she worked so hard. In her job as a Fox host that should actually be impartial... oh.

[Mayhem]

I must respectfully, but strongly disagree. There isn't enough lead in him...so far.

This is a philosophical conundrum. Too much lead in people's brains becomes too little lead in people's brains.

[Kaleredar]

Funnily enough, the DC police department currently has an employee out on leave for allegedly falsifying violent crime statistics and ordering his subordinates to do the same. For allegations going back to 2020, no less.

DC Police department settles with whistleblower after lawsuit

Literally falsifying crime statistics going back to before Trump was re-elected, then standing on them to try to pull out some police-state narrative. The depositions are pretty ridiculous. The police department downgraded charges because all the higherups and political leadership look good when crime looks like it's going down.

NBC news even reported on this prior to Trump's election


The nuance doesn't serve the political moment. That's why the scandal and settlement and suspension have to be ignored in favor of hitting Trump with whatever bullshit is at hand. It's just handing Trump free wins by drawing attention to settlement/suspension related to deliberately falsifying crime statistics in DC.

If you have an issue with book-cooking I have terrible news for you about the rest of the Trump administration, especially via-a-vis labor statistics.

[Breccia]

Funnily enough, the-

No comments on Putin, no comments on "MASSIVE" election fraud, didn't even mention Trump raging about Cracker Barrel.

A genuine poster would comment on the major topics. You are just a terrorist-supporting troll coward. Your opinion carries negative weight.

[Paetolus]

The results speak for themselves.

It's ok to root for good results, even if you dislike Trump.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/davi...dems-trump-did

If you look at the dates of homicides throughout the year so far in DC, you'll see that week long gaps aren't that unusual, and some go even longer. Hell, they had a 17 day gap back in Feb-March. So the "murder free week" is irrelevant to any sort of argument that Trump did anything.

I'd also be curious to see where August ends up in the different crime categories compared to the other months, right now, it still seems to be pretty much trending in-line with other months.

Also, let's say it did work, do you really think it's okay for the president to practice executive authority that usurps the governing rights of state and local governments? Seems pretty authoritarian to me. The state can also deploy the National Guard and other resources if they need to, and even local governments can request deployment from their governor or the president if need be.

I imagine you would respond with some bs about the state/city not doing enough to protect it's citizens from crime, but at that point, I would ask you where the line is and what makes places like LA and DC targets for enforcement. Especially when cities such as Birmingham, New Orleans, or St. Louis have far higher crime rates. Odd how Trump chooses his priorities.

[Poopymonster]

If you look at the dates of homicides throughout the year so far in DC, you'll see that week long gaps aren't that unusual, and some go even longer. Hell, they had a 17 day gap back in Feb-March. So the "murder free week" is irrelevant to any sort of argument that Trump did anything.

I'd also be curious to see where August ends up in the different crime categories compared to the other months, right now, it still seems to be pretty much trending in-line with other months.

Also, let's say it did work, do you really think it's okay for the president to practice executive authority that usurps the governing rights of state and local governments? Seems pretty authoritarian to me. The state can also deploy the National Guard and other resources if they need to, and even local governments can request deployment from their governor or the president if need be.

I imagine you would respond with some bs about the state/city not doing enough to protect it's citizens from crime, but at that point, I would ask you where the line is and what makes places like LA and DC targets for enforcement. Especially when cities such as Birmingham, New Orleans, or St. Louis have far higher crime rates. Odd how Trump chooses his priorities.

Shhh, Don needs all the publicity he can get about peace in the Wall Sector.

[tehdang]

If you have an issue with book-cooking I have terrible news for you about the rest of the Trump administration, especially via-a-vis labor statistics.

You know you were wrong to say that crime has been trending down, given corruption at the responsible office, but you think confronting the bad argument is unnecessary when you can simply double down and whatabout this other Trump thing. I said "it's just handing Trump free wins" because this is self-destructive political opposition. He points out a problem in a ridiculous or nonsensical or nonconstructive way, and Trump opponents reflexively fight back and expose a disregard for the truth. For that reason you can't appreciate how the scandal (with lawsuit and depositions and a suspension) makes your specific objection fail.

Americans are perfectly capable of both rejecting Trump's actions and rejecting reactionary duplicity by lefties against Trump. In this case, the second involves ignoring fraud and knowingly using fraud as (ineffective) political opposition. Trump is blessed with the character of his opposition and I think it's high time that blessing was taken away.

[Endus]

You know you were wrong to say that crime has been trending down, given corruption at the responsible office

Error; you have no contradictory evidence.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/11/polit...fact-check-vis

There is no confirmation that any of the data was faked, it's a claim. It is not proven. And any such accusations coming out of the objectively dishonest and propagandic Trump regime should be doubted immediately based on their source alone.

but you think confronting the bad argument is unnecessary when you can simply double down and whatabout this other Trump thing. I said "it's just handing Trump free wins" because this is self-destructive political opposition. He points out a problem in a ridiculous or nonsensical or nonconstructive way, and Trump opponents reflexively fight back and expose a disregard for the truth.

You're the one blindly accepting unsupported claims as actual fact, not the rest of us, buddy.

For that reason you can't appreciate how the scandal (with lawsuit and depositions and a suspension) makes your specific objection fail.

Unproven allegations don't make an argument fail, especially since you have no direct connection from those accusations to the conclusion you're even trying to draw, even if the allegations are fully correct.

You're flailing. Desperately.

Americans are perfectly capable of both rejecting Trump's actions and rejecting reactionary duplicity by lefties against Trump. In this case, the second involves ignoring fraud and knowingly using fraud as (ineffective) political opposition. Trump is blessed with the character of his opposition and I think it's high time that blessing was taken away.

"Reactionary duplicity"? The "lefties" are citing the known crime rate data.

You're making up stories about potential corruption and then just straight-up inventing your own imaginary crime data to replace the known facts.

It's pretty fucking clear who's being "reactionary" and "duplicitous". Your Turd-In-Chief lied about crime rates in DC, and you're reacting to him being proven to be a liar and a blowhard by lying for him. That's all this is; you lying to protect the fascist you blindly and unflinchingly support.


Here's a hot tip to everyone who wants to understand the root of tehdang's deep dishonesty, here; if someone claims "that data is wrong/false", and wants to argue what the truth is, they not only need to challenge the methodology of how that data was produced (which is only potentially what might have happened, here, if these accusations are correct), you need to be able to provide contravening data. If all you see is people saying "the data doesn't reflect how we feel things are going", then people are just straight-up lying to your face and do not give a shit about the real data in the first place; the goal is simply to discredit the facts that contradict their feels.

[Kaleredar]

You know you were wrong to say that crime has been trending down, given corruption at the responsible office, but you think confronting the bad argument is unnecessary when you can simply double down and whatabout this other Trump thing. I said "it's just handing Trump free wins" because this is self-destructive political opposition. He points out a problem in a ridiculous or nonsensical or nonconstructive way, and Trump opponents reflexively fight back and expose a disregard for the truth. For that reason you can't appreciate how the scandal (with lawsuit and depositions and a suspension) makes your specific objection fail.

Americans are perfectly capable of both rejecting Trump's actions and rejecting reactionary duplicity by lefties against Trump. In this case, the second involves ignoring fraud and knowingly using fraud as (ineffective) political opposition. Trump is blessed with the character of his opposition and I think it's high time that blessing was taken away.

You’re pegging a lot of ignoring Trump’s malfeasance on an unsubstantiated claim of wrongdoing.

Meanwhile, we have the Trump administration directly saying they don’t want to report numbers anymore.

So if someone’s ignoring something here… it’s you, bub.

[Edge-]

Error; you have no contradictory evidence.

weird how rarely conservatives come with actual sources for their lies and bullshit claims