Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[PACOX]

Not worth a new thread but this highlights the kind of timing Trump and his allies are on

Crosswalk memorial for Pulse nightclub shooting in Florida removed overnight by DeSantis

A memorial to one the largest tragedies in recent history just casually and promptly removed by DeSantis for being political. The crosswalk wasn't bothering anyone. Was obstructive, wasn't even a town where it would be controversial. DeSantis has it removed just to irritate people. It's been there since 2017.

How does it tie into Trump besides DeSantis being Trump's....I'm going to stop there.

The crosswalk’s removal follows a directive last month from President Donald Trump’s transportation secretary, Sean Duffy. On July 1, Duffy sent a letter to all 50 states, along with Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico, about roadway safety that stressed “consistent” roadway markings that are “free from distractions.” In a social media post that same day, Duffy shared the letter along with a message taking direct aim at rainbow crosswalks, which are typically intended to symbolize LGBTQ Pride.

[Breccia]

I'm going to stop there.

I wonder how Trump feels about removing "distracting" colors from the White House. You know, like gold.

[gondrin]

The Daily Beast reports that wait, hold on.



You know, I'll be honest, I didn't read far enough into it and assumed it was direct government funding Trump was claiming. Yes, the EU (or any government) demanding private businesses inside make shoddy investments in America doesn't sound like a realistic goal at all. Except for Trump. Trump and only Trump has been vocal about what companies in the US should be doing, such as demanding any business with any employee that says true things about Trump be immediately fired. Or, that 15% theft of Intel. I suppose Trump just assumed that everyone else would do the same thing, but he forgot that most people don't routinely go bankrupt, lie about everything, cheat on all three of their wives, or rape children.

The Daily Beast reports that Trump is bigly yuge mad that Putin launched the air strikes I cited earlier today.



"I thought you never told your enemies what you were going to do? Trump was very specific about that."

It's different when he does it. To him, Putin would never expect Ukraine to strike back, the thing it's been doing for years.



"Did he learn that one at military school?"

No.

"Did Biden really prevent Ukraine from FIGHTING BACK?"

We literally have years of reports saying no, he did not. For the sake of argument, here's the AP from Jan 2024.



There is no report of Biden saying "don't do that" or "you shouldn't have done that" one week in either direction. Or a month. Or a year. Because it doesn't exist.

Ukraine has mostly played defense because it was attacked and invaded by Russia, led by Trump's close ally Putin. He's yelling at the TV because his NFL team isn't kicking a field goal when they're at their own 25 yard line.

By the way, I love how the Daily Beast added this



just to remind everyone that Trump literally asked for this, having not only seen Putin break cease-fires and invade and bomb before, but having admitted that Putin's a killer. Wanna see the video? We are either seriously in "Trump is too retarded to learn from multiple experiences" or humorously in "how many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?" territory.

The article then ends with



It would be harder to find a more damning statement about Trump's diplomacy skills, or more accurately lack thereof, on full display, than Russia saying "let Trump stay in charge". Diplomatically, things are going exactly how Putin wants them: Trump pushing a costly surrender (well, until that last post I suppose) and doing less than nothing when Russia murders civilians.

I think Trump is unable to comprehend that someone doesn't listen to him, and reacts the same way every time: demanding someone else DO SOMETHING. Fire that CEO! Eat the tariffs I put on you! Bomb Russia! The question was raised earlier if we'd ever seen a whinier human being, and "the guy who has been attacking Ukraine for four years didn't instantly stop when I asked nicely!" pretty much makes the answer "no".

The only thing Biden didn't want to do is put the actual military in there. Send them missiles? Fine. Send them pretty much any and all armaments outside of nuclear weapons? Have at it.

The only person who didn't want to do any of this is Trump. And still doesn't.

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Not worth a new thread but this highlights the kind of timing Trump and his allies are on

Crosswalk memorial for Pulse nightclub shooting in Florida removed overnight by DeSantis

A memorial to one the largest tragedies in recent history just casually and promptly removed by DeSantis for being political. The crosswalk wasn't bothering anyone. Was obstructive, wasn't even a town where it would be controversial. DeSantis has it removed just to irritate people. It's been there since 2017.

How does it tie into Trump besides DeSantis being Trump's....I'm going to stop there.

Well, this is the same party that removed any mention of transgendered people in the Stonewall Riots monument.

Look, I could understand if it there were actually studies done that showed that there was a far higher number of accidents at that crosswalk due to said memorial but there isn't any. And even then, there are ways to alleviate that without actually removing said memorial.

[Endus]

Not worth a new thread but this highlights the kind of timing Trump and his allies are on

Crosswalk memorial for Pulse nightclub shooting in Florida removed overnight by DeSantis

A memorial to one the largest tragedies in recent history just casually and promptly removed by DeSantis for being political. The crosswalk wasn't bothering anyone. Was obstructive, wasn't even a town where it would be controversial. DeSantis has it removed just to irritate people. It's been there since 2017.

How does it tie into Trump besides DeSantis being Trump's....I'm going to stop there.

It was a celebration of pride.

If that bothers you, you're a homophobic piece of shit. If you think it's "political", of course it fucking is, human rights and decency are political. And erasing it is also political; it just means you're a fascist homophobic piece of shit as your political identity.

And it really is that cut and dry. Don't give me any "but my faith says . . ." bullshit; 1> your faith only applies to you and others who opt in, and B> fuck your bigoted homophobic piece of shit hate church and anything they want for society. It's evil, and you're evil for being a part of it. And I'm perfectly comfortable stating that as an objective, determinable truth, not a personal opinion.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

We both know if the baby was white his followers would find any excuse, whether true or not, to excuse Trump's actions. And that's what scares me. We all know how morally bankrupt these people are, I just hate to see them plunge further into depravity. The idea of him riding around DC in an armored vehicle shooting off rounds at anyone he pleases is pretty sickening.

"Baby? You mean the Future Democrat that I, President Donald J. Trump, bravely defended the country from?"

<Crowd Cheer Wildly>

The democrats are hypocrits! They say they support abortion but will immediately cancel you just for feeding a baby into a live furnace!

<Crowd goes completely berserk>

[tehdang]

I mean at this point why not? We've all pretty much know that it would get cheers from folks like @tehdang - even more so if they're brown protesters. And we know that the Supreme Court said that he has immunity from anything he does while in office. So looks like all reward and no consequence for the Pedophile in Chief.

I promise you that sincere dialogue will be better than trolling people on shooting protestors, or homeless people, or brown protesters. I know the political environment isn't that good, but it's no excuse to lash out in fantasies or projection.

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I promise you that sincere dialogue will be better than trolling people on shooting protestors, or homeless people, or brown protesters. I know the political environment isn't that good, but it's no excuse to lash out in fantasies or projection.

It precisely is. If you can't handle mockery and derision of your political side's hubris and dishonesty, you can pack your shit and leave. Or you can suck it up and cope. Those are your options.

The gall of trying to tone-police randos on a gaming website for pointing out the moral failings of the President of the United States of America, and all those who support him, you've lost all sense of scale or proportion.

Don't come here asking for "sincere dialogue" when you pull this kind of dishonest malarkey. You're not here for "sincere dialogue"; you push more bullshit per post than nearly any other single user on these forums. You're just upset you don't have an actual criticism of the point being made, so you're trying to shame people based on their tone.

That's the last resort of people who have fuck-all to bring to the table. You're just trying to shut down discussion and subject matter you don't like seeing. Well, if you don't like seeing it, the door's right fuckin' there. Nobody's asking you to be here. If you don't like it here, feel free to leave. Discussions would certainly be more honest and productive without your twisted form of "sincere dialogue", which is just sealioning combined with a disinformation firehose.

[Masark]

A memorial to one the largest tragedies in recent history

Republicans don't consider it a tragedy. They consider it a good start.

[Odinfrost]

So, this'll be in danish since I dunno if it has been reported anywhere else.
Anyway, Danish companies alongside the Danish foreign minister visits California to sign a deal.

"YEAH! MAGA!"

Hey! What the hell are you doing here? Go back to Breccia!

"Another big win for USA!"

No, a win for California.

"What?"

This deal is, to be more specific, a declaration of cooperation between the Kingdom of Denmark and the state of California.

"California is still the USA, so MAGA win!"

Can you not! Besides, the companies accompanying the minister are not companies MAGA likes.

"Like what?"

Water treatment and supply. So water regulatory companies. Which MAGAts hates.
Companies dealing with reducing carbon emissions.

"It's all woke stuff?"

I mean, there is also some data and farming related representatives, but it's mostly "woke" stuff, yes.

"Trump will refuse the deal."

Which is why it's done directly with the state of California. The biggest fish involved on the US side of things is Gov Newsome.
This entire thing seem to be an elaborate way for Denmark to get a deal in the US without having to do any interactions with Trump, so he can't ruin it.
In other words, this deal happened in spite of Trump, not because of him. Well, also kind of because of him, with all his tariffs and TACO attitude.

"Ah, you gave Trump credit for it, MAGA!"

Like complimenting the shine on a polished turd. It's still a turd. And the whole thing is about a deal to scoop up said turd, to round off the metaphor.
Although, not as in, getting rid of Trump. You know what I mean!
Point is, this was done in a way to avoid the tangerine.

[Gabriel]

He's gonna give himself the Purple Heart after this, isn't he, by claiming it was like being in combat?

The Universe has an opportunity to do something incredibly funny here.

[Templar 331]

I promise you that sincere dialogue will be better than trolling people on shooting protestors, or homeless people, or brown protesters. I know the political environment isn't that good, but it's no excuse to lash out in fantasies or projection.

"Democrats will take away your guns!! They'll let illegals into the country and vote!!! They make little girls use the same bathrooms as grown men!!!"

You mean those kind of fantasies right?

[btlcryct]

I promise you that sincere dialogue will be better than trolling people on shooting protestors, or homeless people, or brown protesters. I know the political environment isn't that good, but it's no excuse to lash out in fantasies or projection.

Is it really trolling if they're referring to something Trump directly said himself in 2016?

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."

From:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ose-any-voters

But let me guess, because it's NPR, who is now on Trump's shitlist, it's woke BS. Fine, there are plenty of other links from the same timeframe if you Google it.

[alach]

Hey, look, trump's weaponized DOJ and corrupted FBI is raiding the home of John Bolton a week after he critized him about kissing putin's ass and literally two days after The Lincoln Project put out this gem.



Life is a parody.

[Gorsameth]

Is it really trolling if they're referring to something Trump directly said himself in 2016?



From:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ose-any-voters

But let me guess, because it's NPR, who is now on Trump's shitlist, it's woke BS. Fine, there are plenty of other links from the same timeframe if you Google it.

Shockingly that Trump quote is one of the few true things he has said.

[btlcryct]

Shockingly that Trump quote is one of the few true things he has said.

Right? And his supporters just chalked it up to "Oh he's just joking. Can't you take a joke, snowflake?". Now, imagine if Obama had said that same 'joke' in 2008 or 2012....

[Breccia]

Hey, look, trump's weaponized DOJ and corrupted FBI is raiding the home of John Bolton

It's been a busy night for the legal system.

Judge rules Florida must pause construction and begin dismantling 'Alligator Alcatraz’

U.S. District Judge Kathleen Williams' injunction formalized a temporary halt she had ordered two weeks ago as witnesses continued to testify in a multiday hearing to determine whether construction should end until the ultimate resolution of the case.

The judge said she expected the population of the facility to decline within 60 days through the transferring of the detainees to other facilities, and once that happened, fencing, lighting and generators should be removed. She wrote the state and federal defendants can't bring anyone other than those who are already being detained at the facility onto the property. The order does not prohibit modification or repairs to existing facilities, "which are solely for the purpose of increasing safety or mitigating environmental or other risks at the site.,"

The preliminary injunction includes "those who are in active concert or participation with" the state of Florida or federal defendants or their officers, agents, employees," the judge wrote in an 82-page order.

The judge said state officials never sufficiently explained why the facility needed to be in the middle of the Florida Everglades. "What is apparent, however, is that in their haste to construct the detention camp, the State did not consider alternative locations," Williams said.

"Surely the GOP responded with quiet, dignity, and grace, merely announcing their intent to appeal and not saying anything poorly worded or flat-out stupid?"

"The deportations will continue until morale improves," DeSantis spokesman Alex Lanfranconi said in response to the judge's ruling.

"Of course."

Trump threatens "harsh measures" against Colorado if Tina Peters is not freed from prison

"Why doesn't he just pardon her?"

He can't. State charges.

"So what say does he have?"

None, which is why he's acting like a dictator. Trump announced any punishments would not be due to actual lawbreaking, but just not doing what Trump says.

"Who is Tina Peters?"

Well, it's either someone I dated seventeen years ago, or the subject of this article:

Tina Peters, former Mesa County clerk, sentenced to 9 years in prison over voting systems breach

Former Mesa County Clerk and Recorder Tina Peters was sentenced to nine years in prison on Thursday for her role in a 2021 security breach in the elections office she was supposed to oversee.

Peters will spend the next six weeks to six months in the Mesa County Detention Facility before being transferred to the Colorado Department of Corrections, where she will serve her nine-year prison sentence.

21st Judicial District Judge Matthew Barrett opted for a prison sentence, rather than probation, citing the “immeasurable damage” that Peters had done to local elections and trust in the electoral process, her lack of remorse and other factors. Twice during Thursday’s sentencing hearing, Barrett called Peters a “charlatan” who peddled snake oil that has been disproven again and again.

"Trump said she was a sick, old woman. Is that true?"

In a rambling address to the court that lasted more than 40 minutes, Peters had asked the judge for probation, citing her wish to be close to her mother, who lives in Virginia.

“People today are asking for harsh sentences. I feel bad for them,” she said. “God doesn’t like messing with his kids. I’m a child of God.”

She mentioned health problems that can’t be accommodated in prison — such as her need for a magnetic mattress due to past injuries. She said she had lung cancer in 2016, and had surgery to remove half of a lung, and as a result experiences some shortness of breath.

“I am remorseful. I’m asking for leniency,” she said.

Barrett wasn’t buying it, however.

He called Peters’ lies well-documented, and explained that he considers deterrence when deciding a sentence. Noting that she had never completed the certification required of a county clerk, he said she had failed to take her job seriously, had shown no respect for law enforcement and poses a danger to the community.

“You are a charlatan,” Barrett said. “You betrayed your oath.”

She's a sick, old criminal, yes.

"Trump says she's been tortured by crooked politicians. Is that true?"

No, but if Trump thinks being sent to prison is torture, then he's a war criminal, since he's ordered ICE raids to send thousands upon thousands to prison. It's a strange admission to make in public on purpose.

"Trump said Peters found proof the Democrats cheated in the election. Is that true?"

No. No such evidence was found. No such evidence exists. Everything Peters stole was used as evidence in court, and she personally took the stand. If she'd found anything, she would have made it public and incontrovertible. She didn't.

Trump demanding the release of a justly tried, justly convicted, election denying conspiracy theorist on the grounds that she's old - she's ten years younger than Trump - seems to be broadcasting his upcoming strategy. "You can't find me guilty, I'm too old."

So, illegal prisons, demands to free his criminal associates, and ordering the DoJ to investigate political rivals - even people Trump hired in public on purpose - just for saying true things about him.

Trump is a dictator. @tehdang you support a dictator and your refusal to comment on this, or Putin, or the "MASSIVE" election fraud (oh, right, by demanding Peters be freed Trump supports election fraud) confirms you both approve and support. You are a troll and a coward.

[alach]

Oh wow, that is a lot of stuff happening. So much stuff, so much news, one can almost say it is distracting...
But why now? Why today? What a mystery.

......

First wave of Epstein files is being sent to Congress, says Oversight Committee chair

Oh donnie, you are as predictable as sunrise. I wonder what excuse the disgraced White House will use to justify this timing thats so utterly obvious what's happening even the deepest red Maga moron could put this together.

Oh, and Kash "Drugs are bad, mmmkay" Patel tweeted that no one is above the law.
The irony is blinding.

[En Sabah Nur]

First wave of Epstein files is being sent to Congress, says Oversight Committee chair

But... I thought they didn't exist? Or they were invented by prominent dems? I forget which bit of bullshit we're on right now.

[btlcryct]

Oh wow, that is a lot of stuff happening. So much stuff, so much news, one can almost say it is distracting...
But why now? Why today? What a mystery.

......

First wave of Epstein files is being sent to Congress, says Oversight Committee chair

Oh donnie, you are as predictable as sunrise. I wonder what excuse the disgraced White House will use to justify this timing thats so utterly obvious what's happening even the deepest red Maga moron could put this together.

Oh, and Kash "Drugs are bad, mmmkay" Patel tweeted that no one is above the law.
The irony is blinding.

I'm not even sure if releasing the Epstein files are worth it at this point, as much as it pains me to say that. After supposedly thousands of FBI agents went through it on Trump's orders, it's almost guaranteed it's tainted and he's been 'redacted' from it. But his supporters will buy it and be emboldened going on and on about how he's not in it, even though anyone with at least two brain cells knows what lengths they went to to remove him from it. Sadly, a lot of MAGAts only have one brain cell and it's busy worshiping their orange god.

Which really sucks, because all the victims deserve justice 100%.

[Doomcookie]

I promise you that sincere dialogue will be better than trolling people on shooting protestors, or homeless people, or brown protesters. I know the political environment isn't that good, but it's no excuse to lash out in fantasies or projection.

Why do you think shooting brown protesters is such a good thing?