Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

We'll miss you, Susan Monarez, until recently the head of the CDC.

You lasted slightly less than three Mooches.

[Thinkpad]

Regardless, it doesn't fuckin' matter, and anyone claiming it does is a transphobe who should be punched in the fuckin' face for it.

Of course it matters...

Let's not pretend the majority of trans people don't suffer from some sort of mental issue.

[Edge-]

Speaking of RFK Jr, the now ex-current head of the CDC has been forced out of their job. This is a person that got nominated on March 13th and got Senate confirmation a month ago.

Reason why? Because they basically wanted to control the CDC and RFK Jr wanted other plans.

Only the best.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...a4fc1bc6&ei=12

the most retarded game of musical chairs is off to a blistering pace

is this more turnover than biden had in his first 12 months, already?

[Endus]

Of course it matters...

Let's not pretend the majority of trans people don't suffer from some sort of mental issue.

The only mental issue trans people are predisposed to is body dismorphia, which is treated by transitioning. Pretty much anything else is down to stressors that result from regular abuse they receive.

There are no other connections to greater mental illness. You're just being a transphobe, pushing hateful propaganda.

The only actual correlation with this church shooter and greater trends is that they were a far-right extremist who fetishized violence due to that same extremism. Are you comfortable calling that a "mental illness"? And can we label every other Neo-Nazi as "mentally ill", then?

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https://www.npr.org/2025/08/26/nx-s1...-washington-dc

National Guard members are under the control of individual states' governors, and a president cannot deploy them unilaterally. The exception is Washington, D.C., which is not a state and does not have a governor. The president commands the D.C. National Guard.

"The way that the laws around military and policing work is that federalized troops cannot be used for law enforcement," Army National Guard veteran Christopher Purdy told Morning Edition. "But since the D.C. National Guard is technically not federalized, but controlled by the president, that would be a workaround around this issue."

Purdy served in the Army National Guard for eight years and was deployed on a special mission in response to the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. He is now the CEO of the Chamberlain Network, a veteran advocacy group that describes itself as "dedicated to protecting democracy." In a conversation with NPR's A Martínez, Purdy discussed Trump's executive order and what it will mean for the Guard and the cities they might police.

More on our creeping fascism.

[Thinkpad]

The only mental issue trans people are predisposed to is body dismorphia, which is treated by transitioning. Pretty much anything else is down to stressors that result from regular abuse they receive.

There are no other connections to greater mental illness. You're just being a transphobe, pushing hateful propaganda.

The only actual correlation with this church shooter and greater trends is that they were a far-right extremist who fetishized violence due to that same extremism. Are you comfortable calling that a "mental illness"? And can we label every other Neo-Nazi as "mentally ill", then?

Of course neo Nazis are mentally ill....

But no, trans people who transition are not just magical improving their mental health.

Any improvement is usually short-lived. There's not enough long terms studies and many of them regret transitioning.

That's why there's detransition support groups, which are then labeled as hate groups funny enough...

Actual love and support for them is trying to get them to accept the bodies they were born into. Not patronizing them just to delay the inevitable

[Polgara]

Of course neo Nazis are mentally ill....

nah, they are just shitheads. Choosing to be a piece of shit is not a mental illness, it's intellectual laziness and willful ignorance, both are choices .

But no, trans people who transition are not just magical improving their mental health.

Of course not, it's scientifically shown the improvement between transitioning and the headspace of those who genuinely are transgender. It's not magic, I know it's difficult to comprehend but that doesn't make it magic ya silly doofus.

Any improvement is usually short-lived. There's not enough long terms studies and many of them regret transitioning.

There's not much, if at all, of studies of people detransitioning because not a lot of people detransition? Some do, but some people regret jobs, relationships, actions, family, spending. . .

If regret is a "mental illness" I don't know what to tell ya buddy, but I can tell you it's still not "magic".

That's why there's detransition support groups, which are then labeled as hate groups funny enough...

Detransition groups that carry torches that people should detransition because they think transitioning in and of itself is harmful are hate groups. detransition groups that support people who may have THOUGHT they had gender dysphoria but turns out was wrong are beneficial. No everyone benefits from transitioning, just like not even benefits from the same relationships, workplaces, connections, life goals etc etc.

Humans are different! Funny that.

Actual love and support for them is trying to get them to accept the bodies they were born into. Not patronizing them just to delay the inevitable

You could also let us transition and still give us love and support, I don't see how that's impossible unless your brain doesn't work properly, and that's not mental illness, just being a cunt. Kisses beautiful, I know you are trying with the whole critical thinking and I'm proud, but you aren't doing a very good job hun.

Also a thread about the American president and as soon as one minor possible link to vilify a marginalized community appears the dregs of the internet rush out in full force. I get anything trans requires the upmost attention, we are REALLY important after all <3

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The only mental issue trans people are predisposed to is body dismorphia, which is treated by transitioning. Pretty much anything else is down to stressors that result from regular abuse they receive.

There are no other connections to greater mental illness. You're just being a transphobe, pushing hateful propaganda.

The only actual correlation with this church shooter and greater trends is that they were a far-right extremist who fetishized violence due to that same extremism. Are you comfortable calling that a "mental illness"? And can we label every other Neo-Nazi as "mentally ill", then?

A lot of my basic issues were barricading by dismorphia. Transitioning has left me dealing with cPTSD (from multiple sexual assaults by, ironically, cis white males), and many, many abusive students all through high school who'd gay bash just for fun, or hospitalise me to "take out their anger about things", or on the upper spectrum, befriend me over a few weeks just to lure me to a gang bashing. Add in dysfunctional family and even if I was just a cis white hetero male I'd still be fucked up; mostly because that entire time I was.

It's okay, because these geniuses are easily dismissable because they create such giant circles they can happily put nazis and transgenders in the same category as "mentally ill" and put no further thought into the entire sphere. Intellectually lazy, or maybe the type to spend an entire exam on the first question:

Name:_______________

[Thinkpad]

nah, they are just shitheads. Choosing to be a piece of shit is not a mental illness, it's intellectual laziness and willful ignorance, both are choices .



Of course not, it's scientifically shown the improvement between transitioning and the headspace of those who genuinely are transgender. It's not magic, I know it's difficult to comprehend but that doesn't make it magic ya silly doofus.



There's not much, if at all, of studies of people detransitioning because not a lot of people detransition? Some do, but some people regret jobs, relationships, actions, family, spending. . .

If regret is a "mental illness" I don't know what to tell ya buddy, but I can tell you it's still not "magic".



Detransition groups that carry torches that people should detransition because they think transitioning in and of itself is harmful are hate groups. detransition groups that support people who may have THOUGHT they had gender dysphoria but turns out was wrong are beneficial. No everyone benefits from transitioning, just like not even benefits from the same relationships, workplaces, connections, life goals etc etc.

Humans are different! Funny that.



You could also let us transition and still give us love and support, I don't see how that's impossible unless your brain doesn't work properly, and that's not mental illness, just being a cunt. Kisses beautiful, I know you are trying with the whole critical thinking and I'm proud, but you aren't doing a very good job hun.

Also a thread about the American president and as soon as one minor possible link to vilify a marginalized community appears the dregs of the internet rush out in full force. I get anything trans requires the upmost attention, we are REALLY important after all <3

Nope, a trans person's mental health definitely does not improve.

I'll put it this way.

A trans is like a helfer playing a velf.

They can pretend all they want by having blond hair, blue eyes, and pale skin, but deep down they know they're not a helf and they never will be.

So they rely on being patronized and meds

The detransitioners are helfers who accept that helves are available on horde

[Polgara]

Nope, a trans person's mental health definitely does not improve.

I'll put it this way.

A trans is like a helfer playing a velf.

They can pretend all they want by having blond hair, blue eyes, and pale skin, but deep down they know they're not a helf and they never will be.

So they rely on being patronized and meds

The detransitioners are helfers who accept that helves are available on horde

Huh, just checked and mine did. Guess you are just wrong again, do you want to use actual credible scientific studies to reinforce your point or are you happy talking about magic and elves all day? If its elves that's fine, I gotta clean up for a date today so it would give me an excuse to start <3

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oh boy we're getting sidetracked hard off the NY post/conservative bait lmao

[Jtbrig7390]

Nope, a trans person's mental health definitely does not improve.

First off your factually wrong and there is many cases/studies showing that you are wrong and second your being a transphobic piece of shit.

[Thinkpad]

Huh, just checked and mine did. Guess you are just wrong again, do you want to use actual credible scientific studies to reinforce your point or are you happy talking about magic and elves all day? If its elves that's fine, I gotta clean up for a date today so it would give me an excuse to start <3

Alright, so let me ask you this...

If all the people who support your transition never did and you were alone? Would that have impacted your mental health?

Obviously right? So yeah you do rely on being patronized because I'm sure you know no one actually thinks you're the sex you claim you are.

They're just being emotionally black mailed so you don't hurt yourself

[Doomcookie]

Let's keep the focus where it belongs, on how it did what all of you keep asking for, fight Trump and the nazis. You guys are all about hatred on this board. You got what you want, well most of you would have preferred if it killed Israeli children. A mentally unstable transgendered shooter cowardly shot children at a school it used to attend as an act of domestic terrorism and hate. It uploaded a video to youtube with a manifesto . Hand written notes can be found here(local Minnesota TV news):

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/...urch-shooting/



The videos also show the face of Jesus on a shooting target and a stockpile of guns and ammunition adorned with memes, anti-religious phrases and odes to mass murderers.

The person on the video flashed a white supremacy sign, said racial slurs and showed a shirt with a patch of the old Minnesota flag and the phrase, “Do it before the anxiety kicks in.”

The 10 or so names written on Westman’s arsenal alluded to those responsible for the massacres at Sandy Hook Elementary School, the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, and the mosque shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand, among others.

Also written on the weaponry were references to the Holocaust and calls for Israel to “fall” and “burn.”

A journal written in what appears to be Cyrillic characters also includes a hand-drawn map of the church. The person in the video also holds a smoke bomb, which police say was used in the attack.

Yes, keep the focus where it belongs. I am sure you will disagree and keep posting hatred along with others on this board. Blame guns and not the mentally unstable who use them to vile ends.

Hating rapists and Nazis is a good thing. Perhaps you can explain why you support both?

[Kaleredar]

Alright, so let me ask you this...

If all the people who support your transition never did and you were alone? Would that have impacted your mental health?

Obviously right? So yeah you do rely on being patronized because I'm sure you know no one actually thinks you're the sex you claim you are.

They're just being emotionally black mailed so you don't hurt yourself

You could arbitrarily claim that about any individual undertaking any activity that goes against the current “cultural norm.”

“The people who supported you, a black man, in your interracial marriage are just patronizing you, obviously they don’t think black people are equal to white people.”

“The people who supported you becoming a doctor as a woman are just patronizing you, obviously they don’t think women are as smart as men.”

“The people who came to your gay wedding are just patronizing you, obviously they don’t believe that two men can love eachother.”

You have a chosen prejudice and are trying to dress it up with whatever flimflam nonsense you can; it’s no different from any of the examples other bigots might use above.

And if you’re going around a seething ball of prejudice putting on a false face of tolerating people while secretly despising everyone you don’t like so much that you believe that’s something that normal people do, you need some mental help bud.

And your nonsense about “nobody actually believes…” aside from being insulting for the sake of insult also isn’t… important?

Because while I’m not trans, I’ll take a sideways guess that ultimately a trans person probably cares less about whether you think “they’re the gender they claim to be” and more that you aren’t actively trying to harm them and voting for people and ideas that would do the same.

[Milchshake]

Speaking of RFK Jr, the now ex-current head of the CDC has been forced out of their job. This is a person that got nominated on March 13th and got Senate confirmation a month ago.

Reason why? Because they basically wanted to control the CDC and RFK Jr wanted other plans.

Only the best.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...a4fc1bc6&ei=12

It got worse.

Two lawyers representing Monarez, however, say that’s not true: she hasn’t resigned, and the HHS statement amounts to an effort to force her out.

“Dr. Monarez has neither resigned nor received notification from the White House that she has been fired, and as a person of integrity and devoted to science, she will not resign,” lawyers Mark Zaid and Abbe David Lowell said in a statement.

“When CDC Director Susan Monarez refused to rubber-stamp unscientific, reckless directives and fire dedicated health experts, she chose protecting the public over serving a political agenda. For that, she has been targeted,” the statement said.

Four other longtime top CDC officials submitted their resignations, according to letters reviewed by NBC News:

• Dr. Debra Houry, the CDC's chief medical officer
• Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases
• Dr. Daniel Jernigan, the director of the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases
• Dr. Jen Layden, director of the Office of Public Health Data, Surveillance and Technology

In a functional government, this would be a five alarm fire where Congress calls in Kennedy and asks him what the fuck is going on.

Resignations of CDC staff directly related to misinformation, weaponizing of public health, which is coming from RFK Jr. Untenable situation for them to serve under these conditions.

[gondrin]

So, as the saying goes, a good lawyer could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. Jeanine Pirro officially proved that wrong as she is unable to get any charges to stick to the man who threw his sandwich at federal officers. So either the saying is wrong or she is that bad at her job. I'll go with take #2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...162755ff&ei=12

"The Trump admin has appointed as US Attorney a Fox News host quite literally struggling to prosecute a ham sandwich," posted Gillian Branstetter, communications strategist for the ACLU.

"The prosecutor who failed to get a grand jury to indict the sandwich guy has to be experiencing rock bottom right now," said writer Ian Boudreau.

"Judge Sol Wachtler said that a good prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich," piled on Bluesky user Nancy Dreyer. "I guess not, Judge Box of Wine."

Seems to be a repeating trend with Trump in both of his terms.

[Milchshake]

<gallows laugh> Trump hates the rurals more than they will ever admit.
The Bear Gulch fire is terrible and has been going for 2 months, is only like 12% contained....

Fucking ICE rolls up. Hassles everyone for their IDs, and took 2 firefighters OFF THE FUCKING FIRE LINE!?

Federal agents arrest firefighters working on WA wildfire


Welp, Mason County is the only county on the Puget Sound that went for Trump. Their own neighbors did this.

[We are covfefe]

Fires mean nothing if the browns are there, apparently.

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But no, trans people who transition are not just magical improving their mental health.

Yes, they are.

Transitioning is one of the single most-effective health care procedures that exist; it has better than a 95% satisfaction rate.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-...ing-rcna137563

Most surgeries, by comparison, fall significantly short of that rate. But you don't see people arguing against knee replacements. Because that would be insane, and it's even more insane to pretend trans health care is not highly effective.

Any improvement is usually short-lived. There's not enough long terms studies and many of them regret transitioning.

No. This is a lie. Either you know it's a lie, or you're gullible enough to swallow some hate group's bullshit without giving it a second thought.

That's why there's detransition support groups, which are then labeled as hate groups funny enough...

If they're trying to encourage detransition, then they are hate groups. By definition. The same way anti-abortion "clinics" that abuse vulnerable women who need an abortion aren't real medical centers. It's just a scam that perpetrates hate.

Actual love and support for them is trying to get them to accept the bodies they were born into. Not patronizing them just to delay the inevitable

You're just pushing hate speech, bud. Either you know it, or you're gullible as fuck to be repeating this Nazi shit like it's real.

Edit: And before some chucklefuck questions my use of "Nazi" there; one of the earliest targets of the Reich were LGBTQ people, including trans people, explicitly. One of the first book burnings, the one most of the famous images you'll have seen were taken, was after raiding the Institute of Sexual Science, a non-profit research center focused on LGBTQ+ research (though that particular label had not been invented yet). Trying to purge trans people or force them all to detransition is, literally, Nazi shit.

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A lot of my basic issues were barricading by dismorphia. Transitioning has left me dealing with cPTSD (from multiple sexual assaults by, ironically, cis white males), and many, many abusive students all through high school who'd gay bash just for fun, or hospitalise me to "take out their anger about things", or on the upper spectrum, befriend me over a few weeks just to lure me to a gang bashing. Add in dysfunctional family and even if I was just a cis white hetero male I'd still be fucked up; mostly because that entire time I was.

I was trying to make an arbitrary point about a difference between what I saw as "internal" origins of mental health complications, and those deriving from the external actions of others such as the horrendous abuses you've described, but the more I've tried to clarify what I was trying to say, the more I've run into things like "gender is a social construct so that's not even really clearly internal to begin with, is it?" and "does any of this actually really make a meaningful difference?", and I'm just going to write it all off as a poor attempt to frame an experience I only have an outside viewpoint of. Doing my best to be an ally, but I'm inevitably going to fuck something up somewhere; no offense or hurt is ever intended.

[Polgara]

I was trying to make an arbitrary point about a difference between what I saw as "internal" origins of mental health complications, and those deriving from the external actions of others such as the horrendous abuses you've described, but the more I've tried to clarify what I was trying to say, the more I've run into things like "gender is a social construct so that's not even really clearly internal to begin with, is it?" and "does any of this actually really make a meaningful difference?", and I'm just going to write it all off as a poor attempt to frame an experience I only have an outside viewpoint of. Doing my best to be an ally, but I'm inevitably going to fuck something up somewhere; no offense or hurt is ever intended.

You did nothing of the sort, I just wanted to generally bounce off your points because I agree with them. No harm was done and I just wanted to add direct lived experience to how much transitioning itself is a provable cure/aid to a known condition. Much appreciation for those who may not understand the experience, but aim to help reinforce that we are people too. Hope you don't feel too bad, or anyone else who rode the derail in support. I have a lot of appreciation and affection for people helping when it doesn't affect them <3