Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[alach]

https://www.the-independent.com/news...-b2815849.html



RFK JR., who notably has zero medical training, can diagnose children he's looking at in public based on a quick glance.

Why is RFK Jr. looking at children in public?

He is not a doctor.

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/28/cdc...ations-rfk-hhs

Anyways, there's so much chaos at the CDC under RFK Jr., a non-doctor, conspiracy theorist, and certified malicious retard who will be directly responsible for countless deaths.

Republicans are gonna get a lot more Americans killed.

How a guy that sounds like he's the antagonist in a George Romero film got to be head of HHS is one the most of many bizzare appointments of this administration. They are all the equivalent of the Armchair Coach that have been recruited for the Super Bowl.

[gondrin]

How a guy that sounds like he's the antagonist in a George Romero film got to be head of HHS is one the most of many bizzare appointments of this administration. They are all the equivalent of the Armchair Coach that have been recruited for the Super Bowl.

Think about it. Pretty much everyone in this administration has been on Fox News in some form as a personality.

This is what it is. The Fox News Administration.

I am shocked that Sean Hannity wasn't offered a spot.

[s_bushido]

Lake said the Trump administration would appeal Lamberth's ruling. "Elections have consequences, and President Trump runs the executive branch," she said. "I have confidence that the Constitution will eventually be enforced, even if not by Judge Lamberth and other radical district judges.

I've gone to some pretty dark places mentally over the past several months...but none so dark as where I go when I picture what needs to happen to people like this when/if the current regime is removed from power. For this treasonous garbage to invoke the Constitution while they're actively working to tear it down, boils my fucking blood.

How a guy that sounds like he's the antagonist in a George Romero film got to be head of HHS is one the most of many bizzare appointments of this administration. They are all the equivalent of the Armchair Coach that have been recruited for the Super Bowl.

They'd already long since pushed out anyone even remotely competent and qualified by the time the 2024 election cycle came around. Fox News clowns and unhinged conspiracy theorists are all they've got left.

[Twdft]

If you think American media is bollocks, some media here in Europe is too. I mean wtf is this:



Also, someone put grandpa in a nursing home, he is hallucinating again.

[Flarelaine]

like

i just want to highlight how Republicans have

consistently

been extremely careless with their handling of classified and sensitive material

Cheney outs an agent

Gabbard outs an agent

Donny steals countless secrets

Everyone uses gmail and other private email

The Social Security database is on an AWS server

I could go on here

but really, i just want to highlight how bad republicans are at their jobs and also how, again, they're seemingly fundamentally incompetent and actually bad people.

Pete and his Signal chat should merit a separate mention, considering how deeply classified any details of an active military operation should be.

[Poopymonster]

They're also kept to all the visible/touristy areas, not anywhere crime rates are elevated.

It's all theater and projection.

They were also designed to discourage tourism. Look fierce. Stand around heavily armed. Did you know there are men armed, scooping people off the streets, no ID, masked, and they disappear...would you want to go there?
You chill tourism, you chill the economy. Which hurts the state.
By design.

[Attackrabbit]

If you think American media is bollocks, some media here in Europe is too. I mean wtf is this:

I read that as 'Trumple's claim that people call him President of Europe has no evidence' as in the only person to have ever said that is Trumpface himself. Not overly sure what's so WTF about that as that's pretty standard fare for most things Trumplestiltskin claims anyone said about him.

[Iphie]

If you think American media is bollocks, some media here in Europe is too. I mean wtf is this:



Also, someone put grandpa in a nursing home, he is hallucinating again.

I mean, no he isn't but if he wants that title then I think it's only fair if us Europeans (as in the people living in European countries) get a vote on that, right?

[Twdft]

I read that as 'Trumple's claim that people call him President of Europe has no evidence' as in the only person to have ever said that is Trumpface himself. Not overly sure what's so WTF about that as that's pretty standard fare for most things Trumplestiltskin claims anyone said about him.

Why would anyone consider or look for any evidence of Trumpy being president of Europe? Some statements are so obviously false that the article should have be Trumpy is an idiot for saying it, not "there's no evidence".

[Breccia]

Why would anyone consider or look for any evidence of Trumpy being president of Europe?

The correct way to handle it, as always, is anyone making a claim needs to back it up. Even Trump knows Trump is lying, so even if people in the room with him asked "They did? Who? When?" Trump would not answer. The Trump cultists here will also not answer, because they also know Trump is lying, plus they're all coward pussy trolls who never answer anything. Honestly, the amount of effort to look for the phrase, find nothing, and say "Yep, Trump lied again" just to be sure is minimal, and separates us from the willingly ill-informed people that take whatever they want to believe at face value, even when it's so blatantly objectively false.

"Wait, everyone should check everything Trump says?"

No, but the journalists publishing the articles surely should. That's just responsible journalism. Can you imagine making a huge story of something that was false but never looking into it? I can give you eight hundred million reasons why that's a fucking stupid idea.

[En Sabah Nur]

Dunno where this should really go, but this seems a good a place as any.

Once again, absolutely fuck all is going to change, and the cycle begins anew.

Speaker Mike Johnson on the Minnesota shooting: "At the end of the day the problem is not guns. Ok, Jen Psaki? The problem is the human heart. It's mental health."

[Kaleredar]

Dunno where this should really go, but this seems a good a place as any.

Once again, absolutely fuck all is going to change, and the cycle begins anew.

“When everyone is Christian and straight and not vaccinated, there won’t be any more mental health issues!” ~ republican “solution to mental health,” probably.

[Gorsameth]

Dunno where this should really go, but this seems a good a place as any.

Once again, absolutely fuck all is going to change, and the cycle begins anew.

I mean, he isn't wrong. If the US properly addressed mental health the amount of mass shootings would no doubt go down.

But they aren't doing that either.

[btlcryct]

“When everyone is Christian and straight and not vaccinated, there won’t be any more mental health issues!” ~ republican “solution to mental health,” probably.

You forgot locked away from society too. Either jailed or put in asylums. Asylums is the new call for anyone non-straight, especially trans. It's a mental disorder after all, according to them. Therefore, "those" people shouldn't be part of what they deem normal society.

Absolutely sickening.

[Edge-]

Dunno where this should really go, but this seems a good a place as any.

Once again, absolutely fuck all is going to change, and the cycle begins anew.

ok but didn't they just cut a ton of funding for mental health, too?

also it's guns, it's always been guns, that's why the US is so unique in having these regular tragedies and i hate republicans will literally let every child in this country die before they reconsider the second amendment

[Breccia]

Speaker Mike Johnson on the Minnesota shooting: "At the end of the day the problem is not guns. Ok, Jen Psaki? The problem is the human heart. It's mental health."

This line is being parrotted by my Alabama relatives.

I am this close to saying "Okay, I agree. Nobody should be allowed to own a gun if they're found to be mentally ill. Now, this does mean every gun owner will need to tell their doctor they have a gun, so the doctor can report any issues to the correct authorities. Also, some people choose not to go to the doctor, and dangerous violent mentally ill people would be on that list. That means the government would have to know which civilians had guns, and which ones have not been found to be mentally stable, so they can respond appropriately by checking up on gun owners for the well-being of the community, so we don't have an undiagnosed dangerous violent mentally ill person with a gun, who doesn't go to the doctor, and hasn't been found medically deficient to own a gun. Simply being mentally capable when you buy it isn't enough, problems can manifest or worsen, so the solution you're asking for would require routine medical checkups of all gun owners, with violations leading to gun confiscation. Agree to that, and I'll sign up right now."

[Endus]

This line is being parrotted by my Alabama relatives.

I am this close to saying "Okay, I agree. Nobody should be allowed to own a gun if they're found to be mentally ill. Now, this does mean every gun owner will need to tell their doctor they have a gun, so the doctor can report any issues to the correct authorities. Also, some people choose not to go to the doctor, and dangerous violent mentally ill people would be on that list. That means the government would have to know which civilians had guns, and which ones have not been found to be mentally stable, so they can respond appropriately by checking up on gun owners for the well-being of the community, so we don't have an undiagnosed dangerous violent mentally ill person with a gun, who doesn't go to the doctor, and hasn't been found medically deficient to own a gun. Simply being mentally capable when you buy it isn't enough, problems can manifest or worsen, so the solution you're asking for would require routine medical checkups of all gun owners, with violations leading to gun confiscation. Agree to that, and I'll sign up right now."

Can we apply that same argument to drug trafficking? "It's not the drugs, it's that people have mental health issues like addiction."
Or how about child porn? "It's not the porn, it's the mental illness that causes people to seek it out that's the issue."

Or do these people legitimately not actually believe any of the absolute fucking bullshit they spew from their rotten face-holes?

This is not actually a question.

Conservativism has no actual ethical or ideological principles beyond "might is right". Everything else is either a lie or something so trivially and universally true it's a waste of time to express it. Or it boils down to "might is right" once you scratch the badly-painted surface, anyway.

[Breccia]

Can we apply that same argument to drug trafficking?

Well, the inherent problem is the people making the original statement ("It's mental health") are not willing to do anything about it. They just don't want to take the blame when their pro-gun pro-hate pro-violence stance ends up killing a bunch of people. They want to label them as crazy, then ignore it.

So no, we can't apply it, the argument was always intentionally insincere. Like you said, their only principles are lack of principles. If Republicans were actually pushing for health care and mental fitness for every American, I point out I admire that, just like I did with Trump's promised addiction reforms which he never did.

[tehdang]

If we are going to go down that path, she should know she just argued that pretty much every tariff Trump has enacted is no longer valid(only Congress has the power of the purse and only Congress can lay taxes and duties) AND Trump activating any part of the National Guard without permission of the States themselves that isn't part of DC itself would now be invalid(the NG is actively controlled by the states, not the federal government).

I am pretty sure there are others but those are 2 of the bigger ones.

But this would mean that Congress could never have delegated its tariff authority by making a law that allows the President to do so. If you're removing Congress's ability to delegate its authority, then entire agencies of the Federal government are gone or disabled, to say nothing of centuries of court precedent.

Only the intermediate course remains. Congress has the power to lawfully delegate its own powers, but the executive exceeded its lawful authority from lawful delegation, or this specific case is different than others in unconstitutional delegation, or all the other hammer points in non-delegation doctrine or major questions. Courts are weighing those arguments in two cases this year, like they did 50 years ago with Nixon.

[Edge-]

But this would mean that Congress could never have delegated its tariff authority by making a law that allows the President to do so. If you're removing Congress's ability to delegate its authority, then entire agencies of the Federal government are gone or disabled, to say nothing of centuries of court precedent.

Only the intermediate course remains. Congress has the power to lawfully delegate its own powers, but the executive exceeded its lawful authority from lawful delegation, or this specific case is different than others in unconstitutional delegation, or all the other hammer points in non-delegation doctrine or major questions. Courts are weighing those arguments in two cases this year, like they did 50 years ago with Nixon.

this reads a lot like defending the current misuse of tariff powers but i'm sure that's not what you're doing at all, right?