Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

These dumbasses are going to try to ban Tylenol.

i look forward to J&J suing the ever-loving shit outta the government.

this really is the most retarded people in the country running things.

did y'all see Zuckerbot's hot mic making up numbers for donald?

it's wild how terribly and evil of a human being Zuckerberg is.

[Breccia]

I don't normally turn to Yahoo! for news, but, this article actually made a solid point so I'm citing it almost as an apology for being judgy.

A diminished labor market means that central bankers would step in to figuratively save the day, juicing the economy to reignite growth and make it cheaper for companies and people to borrow money.

Except, investors were already expecting the Fed to cut rates at the September meeting. The Fed's rescue was already "priced in," so to speak. And while weak jobs figures now make a rate cut all but certain — and have increased the likelihood of back-to-back cuts in October and December — investors are also contemplating the risks of a downturn.

Given the likelihood of a Fed cut was already at the high 90% level, the weak jobs report had little positive impact on the market — a zag from what we'd grown accustomed to seeing.

Yep. The free market fully expect things to suck and continue sucking. An analogy I made earlier was being glad your medical insurance check came, but you'd rather not have had the broken leg in the first place. The American economy knows it has a broken leg. The check in the mail cannot be considered a benefit anymore.

And now, when it comes to jobs reports and other macroeconomic readings, bad news may once again look like bad news.

From here on out, the economy will tread a fine line, with investors pining for a goldilocks scenario where the economy is good enough to keep up the growth but bad enough to keep the cuts coming.

It’s hard to deny the stock market loves rate cuts. But why those cuts are needed in the first place is also important. Wall Street’s gains are fundamentally about earnings. And positive earnings are harder to come by when the economy is struggling.

With time to digest what looks like a summer stall-out, complicated by the ongoing impacts of tariffs, investors sent stocks into the red.

We're seeing a trend, I think. More and more people, more and more media outlets, are telling the truth and what Trump says, highlighting that they're not the same. For now, it's objective values like job numbers and inflation. As Trump does more damage and loses more polling numbers he craves, hopefully, we'll see that trend continue.

[alach]

Been a fan of Rick Steves for years, but didn't expect this. Rather chilling, imo.

https://youtube.com/shorts/FGj-x46ue...VcLcEu25XcTJrq

Shorts don't embed, plz fix oh great forum overlords.

[Breccia]

Pentagon officials fume over Trump's Department of War rebrand

Pentagon officials grappled Friday with the Herculean task of fulfilling Trump’s executive order to remold the enormous, global agency into the Department of War.

Many expressed frustration, anger and downright confusion at the effort, which could cost billions of dollars for a cosmetic change that would do little to tackle the military’s most pressing challenges — such as countering a more aggressive alliance of authoritarian nations.


“This is purely for domestic political audiences,” said a former defense official. “Not only will this cost millions of dollars, it will have absolutely zero impact on Chinese or Russian calculations. Worse, it will be used by our enemies to portray the United States as warmongering and a threat to international stability.”

A Defense Department official, who asked to be referred to as a “War Department” official, said the costs of the move are expected to fluctuate as it is implemented.

That didn’t assuage some employees. “I see there being a million small headaches and annoyances if this actually happens,” said a defense official. “It’ll eat up time and effort.”

But the seemingly ad hoc rollout of the name change has caused confusion within the building. One Pentagon official, who independently decided to squat on the Department of War LinkedIn page to prevent a foreign adversary or Trump administration critic from taking it over, openly asked on the social network to whom he should hand the page.

The Pentagon rebranded its X account as the “Department of War,” replete with a different seal for the avatar, but the page’s banner still had the old DOD logo. The Pentagon on Friday afternoon redirected users from defense.gov to war.gov, which was temporarily down.

“On a tactical level, it would mean having to rebrand a mountain of contracting, marketing, business development materials, you name it, both digital and otherwise, that specifically cite the Department of Defense or DOD,” said a defense industry consultant.

“More strategically, even philosophically, it could raise new questions about what it means to be supporting the Department of War, which likely sends a more belligerent message to our allies and adversaries alike.”

This article is based on interviews with more than half a dozen current and former defense officials, many of whom have insight into the broader sentiment in the department. The people were granted anonymity to discuss a sensitive issue.

Trump is spending an amount of someone else's money, an amount he doesn't know, for a rebranding just to troll the libs, make other countries concerned, and solve no problems.

"Wasn't this exactly the sort of thing DOGE said they would block? Wasteful government spending?"

Well, yes. I guess we're in "it's not wasteful when we do it" rules, as per usual.

[En Sabah Nur]

This is so far beyond normal that I don't even know how to process it. This is the president.



What the actual fuck...

[Edge-]

This is so far beyond normal that I don't even know how to process it. This is the president.



What the actual fuck...

republicans say they hate hollywood etc. etc. but really it's just because they're shitty, no-talent hacks who are largely unwelcome there despite desperately wanting to be there

this is teenage shitposting from the president of the united states of america

[Iphie]

This is so far beyond normal that I don't even know how to process it. This is the president.



What the actual fuck...

Eh..ehm...could you technically qualify this as a declaration of war?? Like shouldn't Illinois be a bit cross about the verbiage?

[Odinfrost]

Eh..ehm...could you technically qualify this as a declaration of war?? Like shouldn't Illinois be a bit cross about the verbiage?

Huh... Looking at it, it really looks like it.
I guess the US federal government is now at war with its own citizens

[Breccia]

What the actual fuck...

First, I don't think Trump knows who that character is. Col. Kilgore is a villain, a villain so famous there's a TV Trope named after him.

Second, "Chipocalypse Now" sounds like a nacho plate...but it's actually an episode of a Disney children's TV show.

Third, that sure looks like Trump is threatening to declare war on an American city. Filled with American citizens and taxpayers.

Fourth, how about those job numbers? How about that inflation? How about that MASSIVE election fraud? How about those Epstein files? How about RFK blocking known working medicines like vaccines and Tylenol? How about any of the hundred things literally more important than posting an AI meme of yourself? This isn't leadership. This isn't mature. This is something a child would do while pretending to pay attention in class.

Well, you know the deal. Let's all @tehdang and point him at this image in particular. Everyone, let's force the issue. Get @tehdang known Trump supporter to comment on this issue, positively or negatively. Force him to do what these forums were designed for, foster genuine discussion on topics, and make him actively comment on the candidate he actively supports and actively approves of, when asked to do so.

After all, there are names for people who shitpost and run, posting purely for responses and not for genuine discussion. Names we don't want here, but if the shoe fits...

[Dontrike]

The VP, everyone.

[ringpriest]

Greenland/Canada/Panama/Venezuela/the moon, etc. invasion incoming?

Chicago, apparently.

[Odinfrost]

The VP, everyone.

Who to call to bring the US before the ICC for this warcrime?

[Iphie]

Who to call to bring the US before the ICC for this warcrime?

Technically a call to the Hague, but the US doesn't recognise the ICC as having jurisdiction over US citizens and Bush JR. famously made a law allowing for an invasion of the Netherlands should any American ever be incarcerated in the Netherlands with the goal of putting them on trial at the ICC. Hey, NATO allies are GREAT amirite?

So yeah, not happening I'm afraid, even if I know your question is rethorical.

[Veggie50]

Who to call to bring the US before the ICC for this warcrime?

The USA doesn’t acknowledge the ICC for this very reason. They’d be top of the docket.

[Endus]

The USA doesn’t acknowledge the ICC for this very reason. They’d be top of the docket.

The fun aspect of that is most other countries are signatory, and we could just summarily arrest any American who enters our territory and who's had a warrant issued by the ICC. The USA being signatory does not mean they can't be prosecuted; it means they won't execute ICC warrants on US soil. If they travel to any ICC-respecting country, though, that's no longer a factor and the USA stops having any say other than in diplomatic pleas or military threats to get their people back.

We could literally arrest Trump himself if he landed in Canada for talks with Carney, if the ICC wanted Trump to be prosecuted. Back him onto a Canadian plan in shackles, send him to The Hague. The USA can scream but short of scrambling fighters and forcing things, that's about all they could do.

[gondrin]

These dumbasses are going to try to ban Tylenol.

Honestly, I would ban OTC Tylenol but for a far different reason. Acetaminophen, what Tylenol basically is, has a very specific problem with it. If you take more than 1000mg at one time or 4000 mg in a 24 hour period, you can cause liver and kidney damage. And yes, it is extremely easy to hit that as a lot of the OTC pills do come in 500mg tablets and people have a bad habit of not just taking 1 but taking multiples of them at once. And if you drink alcohol, DO NOT TAKE IT. It goes from "can cause" to "will cause" liver and kidney damage when drinking.

So I would stay away from it and anything else that has acetaminophen in it unless prescribed.

[Edge-]

Honestly, I would ban OTC Tylenol but for a far different reason. Acetaminophen, what Tylenol basically is, has a very specific problem with it. If you take more than 1000mg at one time or 4000 mg in a 24 hour period, you can cause liver and kidney damage. And yes, it is extremely easy to hit that as a lot of the OTC pills do come in 500mg tablets and people have a bad habit of not just taking 1 but taking multiples of them at once. And if you drink alcohol, DO NOT TAKE IT. It goes from "can cause" to "will cause" liver and kidney damage when drinking.

So I would stay away from it and anything else that has acetaminophen in it unless prescribed.

that's huge "read the fucking instructions" territory for me

tons of shit is potentially dangerous if you don't use as instructed and take too much. it's incredibly easy to not take too much of it.

[Mayhem]

tons of shit is potentially dangerous if you don't use as instructed and take too much.

pretty sure that's everything

[DarkTZeratul]

tons of shit is potentially dangerous if you don't use as instructed and take too much. it's incredibly easy to not take too much of it.

And tons of shit is potentially dangerous if taken with alcohol. These are, like, common things you should know about any drug. Anyone who's in the habit of just throwing a handful of pills in their mouth is just being incredibly stupid regardless.

[PACOX]

Honestly, I would ban OTC Tylenol but for a far different reason. Acetaminophen, what Tylenol basically is, has a very specific problem with it. If you take more than 1000mg at one time or 4000 mg in a 24 hour period, you can cause liver and kidney damage. And yes, it is extremely easy to hit that as a lot of the OTC pills do come in 500mg tablets and people have a bad habit of not just taking 1 but taking multiples of them at once. And if you drink alcohol, DO NOT TAKE IT. It goes from "can cause" to "will cause" liver and kidney damage when drinking.

So I would stay away from it and anything else that has acetaminophen in it unless prescribed.

It's pretty much the only the only pain medication pregnant can safely take. But that also applies to a lot of people who have conditions where they don't want to be taking NSAIDs. Everything you put in your body isn't ideal but Tylenol is generally well tolerated if used as intended. No need to ban it and there's more adverse OTC drugs.

The main take away from the article is the reasoning behind the proposal. The claim being presented is that Tylenol leads to autism and they place it next to a state that most people know is true, folic acid is important during pregnancy. Women with vitamin B deficiencies are more likely to have unhealthy babies (and we're making a reach to categorize autism as unhealthy). Then a false correlation is made with Tylenol. Most pregnant women take Tylenol because it's all they can take, so of course Tylenol use is going to is going to common amongst women who birth babies with autism just like it's use is common amongst women who birth babies without autism. RFK Jr is presented false causation to push his BS alternative pseudo-science BS.

And if you slap more regulations onto something widely available and used like Tylenol (it's already regulated by the FDA) then people will turn to harsger or less understood forms of pain management and fever reduction. Maybe those people should go to the doctor more often and not rely on OTC drugs (and not so OTC drugs) to manage their conditions. Except we're an overworked country with piss poor access to healthcare that's about to get worse. So unless theres going to sweeping institutional reform the least people can be allowed is Tylenol.

They want women to have babies but won't give them means to have proper pregnancies, access to healthcare and all of that. When the women actually have the kid it's not the society the administration is pushing us anywhere close to adequate. Lifting of vaccine mandates will increase the rise in preventable disease we thought were effectively controlled or eradicated. Things that impact young children the most and raise childhood mortality rates. Women can't afford to take off work while pregnant or after, greatly impacting the development of a child far more than regular Tylenol. It's all insane.

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that's huge "read the fucking instructions" territory for me

tons of shit is potentially dangerous if you don't use as instructed and take too much. it's incredibly easy to not take too much of it.

I have insane allergies. Anyone who does knows probably has benadryl tucked away if only to sleep when the stuff stop working. It's both fortunate and sometimes instance that it's OTC and pretty cheap. Meanwhile there's well tolerated drugs people have to go through middleman to get. My point is there a lot of bad and good stuff on shelves, met women take Tylenol.