Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[alach]

Why is it disgusting business? That is so unamerican of you, hating on violence. The arguments are clear. One has said gun violence is an acceptable risk, the other never has. There is no further equivalence to make.

And minorities are responsible for all the violence.
That's hate speech and promoting violence, if you don't hear that with what Kirk promoted, than you are also a dangerous person.

[Nymrohd]

And minorities are responsible for all the violence.
That's hate speech and promoting violence, if you don't hear that with what Kirk promoted, than you are also a dangerous person.

Yeah I don't believe the callous deserve anything but my contempt.

[s_bushido]

I recommend you universally condemn political violence

Why the fuck would anyone do that? The PedophileOTUS is literally deploying the military to the streets of cities he doesn't like, and has his gangs of armed thugs rounding up brown (and apparently Asian) people as well. Bootlickers might not consider that violence, but it's plain as day to everyone else.

Fuck Charlie Kirk. If he survives, so be it. But as one of the pieces of shit on the front lines of the vile rhetoric that's gotten us to where we are now, I will shed no tears for him, nor the state of the society he helped foster.

[Breccia]

I don't think it's right to condone political violence based on your own personal perception of how much the political actor deserved it.

You voted for someone who led a lynch mob to the Capitol. After they had done so. And he pardoned the terrorists. So, you do think it's right, and are lying in this post.

[Edge-]

You voted for someone who led a lynch mob to the Capitol. After they had done so. And he pardoned the terrorists. So, you do think it's right, and are lying in this post.

Trump was asked if he'd reach out to Walz, who was the vice presidential running mate for the Democratic Party's 2024 nominee Kamala Harris, as he returned to Washington after leaving the G7 summit early.

"I think the governor of Minnesota is so whacked out. I'm not calling him," Trump said. "Why would I call him? I could call and say, 'Hi, how you doing?' Uh, the guy doesn't have a clue. He's a mess. I could be nice and call, but why waste time?"

Reminder for anyone in the thread who forgot how Donald responded to Democrats being assassinated in Minnesota earlier this year.

[Iphie]

Why the fuck would anyone do that? The PedophileOTUS is literally deploying the military to the streets of cities he doesn't like, and has his gangs of armed thugs rounding up brown (and apparently Asian) people as well. Bootlickers might not consider that violence, but it's plain as day to everyone else.

Fuck Charlie Kirk. If he survives, so be it. But as one of the pieces of shit on the front lines of the vile rhetoric that's gotten us to where we are now, I will shed no tears for him, nor the state of the society he helped foster.

Him be dead

[Gorsameth]

One of MAGAs main preachers of hate has been shot.
How are we allowed to feel?
How would they feel if it was say, Mamdani?

I think the correct response is thoughts and prayers.

[D Luniz]

Him be dead

May the 2nd amendment be satiated

[Odinfrost]

I think the correct response is thoughts and prayers.

Sorry. I can only give one thought or one prayer. I've unfortunately run out due to all the other mass shootings this year.

[Ghostile]

May the 2nd amendment be satiated

Like he said, unfortunate but worth the 2nd amendment. Lol.

[draynay]

I think the correct response is thoughts and prayers.

t & p

[Nightmare Queen]

Neckshot apparently. With a lot of blood laving his body very rapidly.

His Juglar probably got hit.

[zorkuus]

I think the correct response is thoughts and prayers.

I'm an atheist. The best I can do is thoughts.

[Breccia]

Lost in the shuffle of someone saying school shootings were acceptable dying in a school shooting, the poor and worsening economy, and Trump raping children, is the deal with Venezuela.

"What deal?"

Whatever Maduro paid $670,000 for when he funded Trump's election with foreign money. Well, I guess technically Citgo's US branch donated it, but that's like saying "it's Starbucks peeing on your car" after I drink a venti and relieve myself in your back seat.

The charge is not that Mr. Maduro bought himself anything meaningful and lasting with that half-million-dollar donation. The contribution was a reflection of the times, when pundits and some foreign ministers confused Trump’s opportunistic criticism of his predecessors and “America First” rhetoric with a less militaristic approach to foreign affairs, as well as the general incompetence of the political leadership in Caracas, which in the run-up to the 2016 election used its English-language state media to promote Trump as the candidate “less likely to engage [America] in needless wars.”

The accusation, rather, is that Trump took money from a man who is, in the words of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, “effectively a kingpin of a drug narco state” — or as Trump himself put it, a man “responsible for mass murder, drug trafficking, sex trafficking, and acts of violence and terror across the United States and Western Hemisphere.”

Sounds like a monster, if true. Here, then, is a complementary question that may be asked by any sentient member of the Washington press corps: Why did you take so much of that blood-soaked money?

Maduro should have known better than to assume Trump would pay him back, because Maduro is a carbon-based life form.

Unrelated: gas prices are still up over the last week/month, might have something to do with Israel attacking Qatar. Sorry, Israel conducting genocide and some of the attempted survivors being chased across the border. Qatar was given like ten minutes' notice.

Oh, and Poland just invoked NATO Article 4, basically the emergency meeting when one of the NATO countries is slapped and cooperation for defense is discussed. Article 5 is next, "an attack on one is an attack on all" and, should that happen, Trump will either flake out on our European allies, a betrayal of generations of goodwill and cooperation, or be the WH resident who led the world into its third war. Russia is already claiming the drones going into Poland was an accident, so hopefully it doesn't go that far.

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Arkansas Farmers Who Voted for Trump Plead for Emergency Aid as Tariffs Push Them Into Ruins

UPDATE: It's also been a record-level harvest year. Normally a good thing. Problem is, having a glut of supply and lower demand drops prices. Not only is less selling, it's selling for lower values.

[Valdhammer]

What an ugly fucking time we’re living in. The last thing these lunatics needed was a martyr. Can’t wait to see how the country will pay for this…

And what a nice distraction from Trump’s pedophilia to boot. Just perfect.

[zorkuus]

What an ugly fucking time we’re living in. The last thing these lunatics needed was a martyr. Can’t wait to see how the country will pay for this…

Well, if the shooter was a maga nutjob (which they usually are), we could be lucky and the right would just try to bury the story quick.

[s_bushido]

Russia is already claiming the drones going into Poland was an accident, so hopefully it doesn't go that far.

I would be genuinely surprised if Russia doesn't find some way to keep it from going that far. I can't imagine that they want the military ire of more countries mobilized against them, given the trouble they've been having with "just" Ukraine. Even assuming Trump forces the US to stay out of it.

[Calfredd]

Did you see a peace loving democrat blew off Charlie Kirk’s head? @Endus the violence you love?

He lied as easily as he breathed.

[fwc577]

What an ugly fucking time we’re living in. The last thing these lunatics needed was a martyr. Can’t wait to see how the country will pay for this…

And what a nice distraction from Trump’s pedophilia to boot. Just perfect.

I'm honestly expecting to wake up to news of a political assassination, or at least attempts, made against Democrats.

[Breccia]

I would be genuinely surprised if Russia doesn't find some way to keep it from going that far. I can't imagine that they want the military ire of more countries mobilized against them, given the trouble they've been having with "just" Ukraine. Even assuming Trump forces the US to stay out of it.

If I had to answer "Is Putin ready to end the entire world over this?" I would say "Maybe, but his officers aren't."

If Putin hits NATO and NATO responds in full force, including the USA, they can start WW3 and end humanity, fight conventionally and lose, or surrender. I don't see China seeing Putin hitting Poland and saying "Yes, this is something we're prepared to die for." More of a "I'ma eat this popcorn and see this play out while cementing our #1 position in the world." I think the general consensus is that we're not ready to go to full-on war for Ukraine, but we will for the UK or France. Especially with Putin signaling weakness and Trump being a bully. I think Putin's government is about as loyal to Putin as the GOP is to Trump: fine while he's winning, knives out when he's killing his own country.

And I think Putin knows all of this. If his goal was to scorch the planet, he'd have tried by now. His goal is Russian expansion, not turning Moscow into a pile of cinder blocks.

I don't know how many times Putin can "accidentally" strike NATO countries before they take actions, probably espionage.