Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Draco-Onis]

New York Times and other media still figuring out this fascist thing.

No they know exactly what is going on just like the rest of the main stream media however they are corporate media. Under fascist regimes main stream media organizations are always first to bend the knee because of their corporate masters.

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Venezuelan officials, hoping to end their country’s clash with the U.S., offered the Trump administration a dominant stake in Venezuela’s oil and other mineral wealth in discussions that lasted for months, according to people close to the talks.

We have become a Mob Organization.

Now reporting is Maduro is offering this, so Trump technically is not strong arming Venezuela here. I want to see if this go through then all of sudden those drug boats magically disappear.

Trump wants to be hell's first trillionaire.

[Elenos]

Now reporting is Maduro is offering this, so Trump technically is not strong arming Venezuela here. I want to see if this go through then all of sudden those drug boats magically disappear.

That's cute for Maduro.

I suspect the answer will be "Hmm, No. I think I'll watch you collapse."

No they know exactly what is going on just like the rest of the main stream media however they are corporate media. Under fascist regimes main stream media organizations are always first to bend the knee because of their corporate masters.

What exactly does fascism means to you.

[Dontrike]

The Democrat Epstein HOKES bubbles up more witch hunt fake evidence as a Prince Andrew email is found with him claiming he and Epstein are "in this together."

Prince Andrew allegedly told Jeffrey Epstein "we are in this together" in an email sent three months after the date he declared to have ceased contact with the convicted sex offender, it has been sensationally claimed. The Duke of York told Emily Maitlis' BBC Newsnight in 2019 that he severed contact with the disgraced financier in December 2010.

But in an email seen by the Sun, dated February 28, 2011, it appears to suggest he kept in touch with Epstein longer than he declared. The alleged email was sent a day after the emergence of an infamous photo seemingly portraying him with his abuse accuser, Virginia Giuffre.

The photo was published for the first time on February 27, 2011 and appears to show the Duke with his arm around Virginia’s waist at the London townhouse of Epstein’s then-girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell.

In the email, the prince reportedly told Epstein: "I’m just as concerned for you! Don’t worry about me! It would seem we are in this together and will have to rise above it."

He also appeared to be willing to keep up their friendship, urging the convicted paedophile to "keep in close touch". He said: "We’ll play some more soon!!!!"

According to the outlet, the message was sent from Andrew’s official email address which had the automated signature "HRH The Duke of York KG". The email address for Epstein has been previously confirmed as his in official records, the news outlet claimed.

A short section of the email was revealed in a court case involving the FCA and banker Jes Staley earlier this year. However, legal documents only made reference to “a member of the British Royal Family”.

Virginia Giuffre, previously known as Virginia Roberts (her maiden name), was one of the most prominent accusers of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and also a campaigner for victims of sex trafficking.

She brought a defamation case against Epstein in 2015 when she alleged that he, alongside former British socialite and also convicted sex offender Ghislaine Maxwell, sex-trafficked her when she was just 16 years old in 2000. She also alleged that Epstein forced her to have sex with the Duke of York three times when she was 17 - in New York, London, and the US Virgin Islands. Andrew has always repeatedly and vehemently denied the claims.

On November 16, 2019, during his BBC interview, Andrew claimed that he has "no recollection of ever meeting" Ms Giuffre, denying the allegations against him and any wrongdoing. Regarding Epstein, he stated that: "I have stayed in a number of his residences. At no stage during the limited time I spent with him did I see, witness or suspect any behaviour of the sort that subsequently led to his arrest and conviction."

He also denied that the infamous picture of him appearing to have his hand around a young Ms Giuffre was real, saying: "Listen, I don’t remember, I don’t remember that photograph ever being taken."

The interview led to a public backlash and days later, Andrew announced that he would be stepping down from his royal duties, adding that he deeply sympathised with Epstein's victims and everyone who "wants some form of closure".

Prince Andrew's office and Buckingham Palace has been contacted for comment.

"Rise above it" is sure a weird fucking way of saying "Don't snitch on each other."

[Elder Millennial]

"We’ll play some more soon!!!!"

Unless Epstein and Andrew were in a DnD club together...that's some really fucking weird shit to say.

[fwc577]

Unless Epstein and Andrew were in a DnD club together...that's some really fucking weird shit to say.

They were in a DnD group together, it was called Dicks 'n Daisies.

[Endus]

What exactly does fascism means to you.

"No true fascism" ploys are really fucking boring. The rest of us understand basic English political terminology just fine.

Also, this on works for me, at least; https://www.openculture.com/2024/11/...f-fascism.html

Feel free to provide your preferred academic definition (not some shit you made up or paraphrased) if you don't like Eco's. But it bears pointing out Trump's rhetoric and policy has fit the bill since the run-up to 2016, and since 2024, it's been full steam ahead where in his first term he was half-assed about it.

[Breccia]

If the U.S. persists in acting unilaterally, China will resolutely take corresponding measures to safeguard its legitimate rights and interests. Our position on a tariff war remains consistent—we do not want one, but we are not afraid of one.

- China

Translation: "We won the last one too, fatty. We're not buying the F-150."

[Edge-]

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-h...c-layoffs-jobs

The Trump administration has laid off more than 100 employees at the nation's main mental health agency, NPR has learned.

Current and former employees at the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) told NPR about the layoffs, which were part of a government-wide reduction in force. The sources, who were not authorized to speak publicly about the agency, said the layoffs came late Friday, as the nation's government shutdown dragged on.

Employees were notified of a "Reduction in Force" shortly before 8 p.m. ET on Friday, according to a source within the agency who was not authorized to discuss the layoffs publicly. According to the source, administration officials offered no rationale for who lost their jobs:

Reminder:

It's never been about mental health, either.

Republicans, much like Charlie Kirk, are totally fine with tens of thousands of Americans, including children, dying to gun violence every single year and will do absolutely nothing to stop or prevent it.

They've said it's about "mental health", yet we've seen them cut or refuse to fund mental health services again and again./

The Republican party is truly a weirdly racist, religious death cult.

[Captain N]

Well I would think eliminating jobs that helped with mental health would be right on par for this Administration. I mean look at all the other things that they've decided that if they don't report on it means it no longer exists. The lack of empathy is a symptom of sociopathic behavior. MAGA has repeatedly demonstrated such behavior escalating it all the way up to violence resulting in death. If we simply remove the people who would come out and say that the President of the United States leads a clinically insane, violent mob that loves sexual predators - then it isn't actually happening, right?

[Edge-]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...ard-rcna237060

Vance says Trump is 'looking at all his options' as the president threatens to invoke the Insurrection Act

Not even 9 months of this lawless administration and they're already threatening the insurrection act to mobilize more of the military to occupy "democrat" cities.

It's crazy how nobody is talking about the stunning failure of this administration to keep america safe and how quickly it's spiraled out of control. if they're to be believed and taken seriously, of course.

because the alternative is this is just a transparently fascist play after 9 months of acclimating americans to having the military deployed in cities because they want a permanent domestic military presence and not because the people in inflatable frog and unicorn costumes peacefully protesting in portland are a serious national security threat

i mean, secretary puppykiller won't even reveal who the head of antifa is! she says they're as dangerous as isis but is protecting their leader! why?!?!

[Xyonai]

Seems like fun(?) timing to have that interveiw a day or so after it's looking like that Trump's DOJ is planning on making a registry of gun owners

The link above has a bit of a breakdown of events, and This Link is to the legal filing itself

[Edge-]

Seems like fun(?) timing to have that interveiw a day or so after it's looking like that Trump's DOJ is planning on making a registry of gun owners

The link above has a bit of a breakdown of events, and This Link is to the legal filing itself

oh this should be some fucking great popcorn lmao

[Breccia]

What a coincidence. Trump finds leftover research money and diverts it to pay US military he put on unpaid leave.

"Oh, so there's enough to pay people like the IRS and VA?"

No.

[Belize]

Seems like fun(?) timing to have that interveiw a day or so after it's looking like that Trump's DOJ is planning on making a registry of gun owners

The link above has a bit of a breakdown of events, and This Link is to the legal filing itself

Man the 2A gun-nuts are awwffuuullly quiet about this

[Xyonai]

Man the 2A gun-nuts are awwffuuullly quiet about this

I mean the twitter thread I linked *is* from a Right Wing (or at least right leaning from the language they used) gun rights orginization and they seem plenty peeved. It's just a matter of if they'll continue to stay mad or just shrug and fall in line like the chuds did with the Epstein stuff.

[Belize]

I mean the twitter thread I linked *is* from a Right Wing (or at least right leaning from the language they used) gun rights orginization and they seem plenty peeved. It's just a matter of if they'll continue to stay mad or just shrug and fall in line like the chuds did with the Epstein stuff.

I'll start believing there's pushback once we start seeing guys with profile pics of themselves posing with fish start getting rowdy.

Otherwise it's just lip service from groups that are too scared to lose their membership money and will likely go quiet about this sooner than later.l

[Endus]

I'll start believing there's pushback once we start seeing guys with profile pics of themselves posing with fish start getting rowdy.

Otherwise it's just lip service from groups that are too scared to lose their membership money and will likely go quiet about this sooner than later.l

There's real opposition, where you demand change with implicit threats of increased opposition if you don't comply, and then there's performative "Susan Colins" opposition, where you wring your hands and clutch your pearls and vote Republican straight down the ticket no matter what because you don't actually care about any of this shit.

[Belize]

There's real opposition, where you demand change with implicit threats of increased opposition if you don't comply, and then there's performative "Susan Colins" opposition, where you wring your hands and clutch your pearls and vote Republican straight down the ticket no matter what because you don't actually care about any of this shit.

Yeah, they opened their tweet with "Trump has done so much for the 2A, but Bondi is wrong about this".

They're doing the pearl clutching thing without really committing to a position we see, oh too often

[Poopymonster]

Man the 2A gun-nuts are awwffuuullly quiet about this

They too busy renting vans to kidnap suspected brown people.

[Breccia]

The Ukraine Impeachment (of me!) Scam was a far bigger Illegal Hoax than Watergate.

Once again, I call upon @tehdang (or any other Trump supporter) to explain what the person they support, approve of, and voted for meant by this.

For example, was the Watergate break-in the "illegal hoax"? Or was it the subsequent political move to remove Nixon from office for it? Because I'm looking forward to your explanation either way.

As per usual, failure to respond means I get to answer for you, and barring any reason to believe you've changed your mind, to assume you side with Trump, the person you've demonstrably supported, approve of, and voted for. And then I will quote you as such.

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Trump's own USDA reports that beef prices are the highest they've ever been.

Ground beef national average $6.12 and steaks $11.49 a pound. +12% year over year, that report is from June. The same report also expects prices to continue to rise. The CPI noted it went up 2% last month.

"But egg prices are down!"

Are they more, or less, than Jan 20th?

"...no comment."

I have one. Eggs are +11% year over year. Basically, the same as beef. Can't blame this on bird flu or Biden.

The reasons are multiple. Obviously, it would be easy and condescending to say "Trump told all his followers to be manly men and eat beef, raising demand, raising the prices". So of course I'll start with that. Then I'll point out the drought, the tariffs on beef, the inflation caused by tariffs on everything else, and the dwindling cattle supply (caused at least partly by the drought, but also apparently diseases in Mexican cattle, cattle supply in the US is at a 74-year-low) are all problems Trump has offered no solutions for. He's offering to use US taxpayer money to help farmers, that sounds like socialism, out of a problem he personally caused. No relief in sight for the people paying higher prices for food.

Funny, he found money for US troops to be paid. Well, kinda. That earlier post was about $8 billion. There are 2 million men and women in uniform. That's...two months, for the lowest rank in the Army. The average is actually much higher, meaning, this is realistically one month of paychecks. And then it's gone.

Hey, remember when I said Trump has yet to suggest using tariff money to pay government employees? Pretty sure tariffs are still being collected and aren't part of the voted-on budget bill (they can't be, Trump has been turning them on, off, and to random numbers on whim). Pretty sure he still hasn't suggested it, but now, I don't think he wants to for two reasons. Trump's tariffs were about $30 billion in July. Putting federal civilian and military employees together and assuming an average salary of $50k, that'd be half the money gone. Everything else he promised, like refund checks, farmer bailouts, paying down the deficit? Now he's down to half the money to do that, which already wasn't enough.

Honestly, not surprised Trump suggested paying the military without paying anyone else. But at some point, probably in three weeks, he's got a choice to make.