Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[fwc577]

this is a much deeper question than you can answer so i guess take this kind of rhetorically, but... do you honestly think it's "doomerism" to say "hey i like your pluck and all but i don't think that's going to actually fix any of the problems we're facing" in a situation where "no kings peaceful protest yas queen" is literally the only thing that american society can seem to muster in the face of a blatant fascist infiltration of government?

i know that in the politics subforum here that could be seen as flippant but i'm quite serious, because i don't read any doomerism around here and you were replying to a quote that was replying to me and i definitely know i don't engage in doomerism, so either we have a different definition of what "doomerism" is, or else we're applying very different standards to the criteria and i'm interested to know which it is.

No, The doomerism comes from the people who sit there and say the retarded bullshit like "We're not even going to have more elections"

This type of shit was happening A LOT just a few months ago. I'm sure I can go through and pick out people still saying bullshit like this a lot of the time.

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welp, @DarkTZeratul and @fwc577 have both said that pointing this out mean you're a doomer who is claiming that protest as a concept is worthless so i dunno what to tell you since those two seem reeeeeeeeal fuckin' sure of themselves on their little declarations about the nature of reality.

Okay, I get that this is a much deeper response than you're going to understand, but the whole doomerism in the first post I quoted was the

"Yeah, but it won't do anything, so who cares."

Not the actual protest themselves.

Maybe go learn what the fuck doomerism actually is before you respond and make yourself look like a total ignorant ass.

[PhaelixWW]

Appears that yesterday's No Kings protest was the largest protest in American history with over 6 million, over-taking the previous record holder, the earlier No Kings protest back in June that estimated 4-5 million.

Meh, I consider the 2020 election to be the biggest protest in American history.

[Canpinter]

One thing protests also do is let people get more engaged and form connections with political movements and organizations. Going down to check out the protests for half an hour is a easy low effort entry point for people that may well lead them to be more useful activists and voters in the future.

[Breccia]

Appears that yesterday's No Kings protest was the largest protest in American history with over 6 million, over-taking the previous record holder, the earlier No Kings protest back in June that estimated 4-5 million.

Oh my God, how many people died? Team Trump keeps insisting that we're violent unhinged Antifa hatemongers, surely the death count was in the double, nay, triple digits! Even if that was true for only one percent of one percent of one percent, there should have been four to six deaths. Or, if we scale this up to the six of the Jan 6th "loving parades" the death count would be about five hundred.

So, how many people were killed in these protests? And also, how do you feel about leading questions?

[En Sabah Nur]

Is this the first time we're threatening Colombia? I've lost track.

[alach]

Oh my God, how many people died? Team Trump keeps insisting that we're violent unhinged Antifa hatemongers, surely the death count was in the double, nay, triple digits! Even if that was true for only one percent of one percent of one percent, there should have been four to six deaths. Or, if we scale this up to the six of the Jan 6th "loving parades" the death count would be about five hundred.

So, how many people were killed in these protests? And also, how do you feel about leading questions?

No numbers in on that very important piece of information, wait, no that's not right. There was Zero. In fact...

Despite the many criticisms that anti-Trump protesters came to preach, there were displays of optimism, hope and whimsy in several cities.
Inspired by protesters in Portland, Ore., people in Los Angeles, Hartford, Conn., and elsewhere showed up to march in inflatable animal costumes. Song and dance broke out in Salt Lake City and other cities.

Much to my surprise I saw women, and children, and people of difference ages and races in the crowds, which I found strange because the GOP told me that a peaceful protest is what happened on Jan 6th that was nothing but a small tour group and if it wasn't it because of Biden's undercover FBI was full of young and middle aged white guys who looked angrily at the cameras and were dressed in combat gear. Isn't that what peaceful protests are? Weren't they supposed to be chanting "Hang Mike Pence" yesterday?
Instead we got inflatable unicorns and frogs that I guess were Hamas supporters and terrorists. Up is down. Black is white. And on and on we go.

Oh and get this. In response to the protests yesterday, trump reposted an AI generated meme of himself flying a F-16 labeled KING TRUMP over crowds of protesters then shitting all over them.
Yes, that's right. That was posted by the P.O.T.U.S.

[En Sabah Nur]

Oh and get this. In response to the protests yesterday, trump reposted an AI generated meme of himself flying a F-16 labeled KING TRUMP over crowds of protesters then shitting all over them.
Yes, that's right. That was posted by the P.O.T.U.S.

Hey, don't forget the crown AI Trump was wearing! Glad he's got no royal ambitions, though.

[PhaelixWW]

Oh and get this. In response to the protests yesterday, trump reposted an AI generated meme of himself flying a F-16 labeled KING TRUMP over crowds of protesters then shitting all over them.
Yes, that's right. That was posted by the P.O.T.U.S.

Yeah, they're really leaning into this whole king image.

[Edge-]

so donald posted a video of himself dropping shit on americans

really, words continue to fail me

there are no good republicans and they are all, seemingly, genuinely terrible people, if not outright nazis

[Mayhem]

Is this the first time we're threatening Colombia? I've lost track.

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fun fact, he truthed (lol) Columbia multiple times instead of Colombia first, and that was online for more than an hour before someone realized the error.

[zorkuus]

Yeah, they're really leaning into this whole king image.

Is Vance a queen? There can't be two kings.

Can you tell us americans: why is the official WH account posting this shit? The rest of the world demands a sane answer.

[Elder Millennial]

Is this the first time we're threatening Colombia? I've lost track.

Ah yes.

The Colombian drug trade... a conflict that has been ongoing since the 1970s and is to a very very large degree driven by far right paramilitary groups alongside the Cartels...a conflict that was to a large degree fueled by the CIA ...The Colombian government must snap their fingers and end it...immediately.

This is fucking retarded it's unfucking believable.

[Breccia]

This is fucking retarded it's unfucking believable.

Why doesn't he just tariff cocaine? He tariffs everything else!

/sarcasm

[Captain N]

Why doesn't he just tariff cocaine? He tariffs everything else!

/sarcasm

Donald Trump Jr. Disapproves

[Malkiah]

No, what makes you a doomer claiming that protest as a concept is worthless is this bullshit:

so once again, you reply to me and demonstrate you have no concept whatsoever of what you're replying to. i don't think you've once ever managed to have an honest and accurate response to a single post of mine you have ever quoted.

i do not think protests as a concept are worthless, but i do think that this protest in particular won't have any impact on the state of things because it wasn't really a protest so much as a nationwide rally for solidarity.
i can think protests are great and also think that one event in particular will not be effective at accomplishing any sort of political goal.

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either we have a different definition of what "doomerism" is, or else we're applying very different standards to the criteria and i'm interested to know which it is

Maybe go learn what the fuck doomerism actually is before you respond and make yourself look like a total ignorant ass.

fwc577 in all their glory, everyone - this is the level of discourse they choose to represent themselves with.

[Bwgmon]

Donald Trump Jr. Disapproves

Jr. will be fine, he probably gets that special SpaceX-branded supply from Definitely-Not-Elon.

[DarkTZeratul]

Oh my God, how many people died? Team Trump keeps insisting that we're violent unhinged Antifa hatemongers, surely the death count was in the double, nay, triple digits! Even if that was true for only one percent of one percent of one percent, there should have been four to six deaths. Or, if we scale this up to the six of the Jan 6th "loving parades" the death count would be about five hundred.

So, how many people were killed in these protests? And also, how do you feel about leading questions?

The *NYPD* is bragging that they had a hundred thousand protesters and made zero arrests.

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so once again, you reply to me and demonstrate you have no concept whatsoever of what you're replying to. i don't think you've once ever managed to have an honest and accurate response to a single post of mine you have ever quoted.

Maybe reflect on what that says about your ability to adequately convey your point, because if I'm always getting it wrong then you're fucking failing to communicate.

[alach]

so once again, you reply to me and demonstrate you have no concept whatsoever of what you're replying to. i don't think you've once ever managed to have an honest and accurate response to a single post of mine you have ever quoted.

i do not think protests as a concept are worthless, but i do think that this protest in particular won't have any impact on the state of things because it wasn't really a protest so much as a nationwide rally for solidarity.
i can think protests are great and also think that one event in particular will not be effective at accomplishing any sort of political goal.

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fwc577 in all their glory, everyone - this is the level of discourse they choose to represent themselves with.

Maybe you should let this go, dude, you are coming off as rather pretentious for someone admittingly doesn't even vote. Most people don't care what your faux justified reason is, it's enough to dismiss most your political comments. Maybe pick another argument some place else.

[Malkiah]

Maybe reflect on what that says about your ability to adequately convey your point, because if I'm always getting it wrong then you're fucking failing to communicate.

a fair point!
one unfortunately undermined by the fact you totally ignored the part where i once again clarified for the simple-minded that i wasn't denigrating the idea of protest, just questioning whether or not this one in particular was going to have any impact.
if you screech that i'm a doomer who calls protests pointless and then respond to every post where i clarify that i don't think protest is pointless with another reply claiming i think protest is pointless, there comes a point where there's no longer a leg to stand on that this is my fault.

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Maybe you should let this go, dude, you are coming off as rather pretentious for someone admittingly doesn't even vote. Most people don't care what your faux justified reason is, it's enough to dismiss most your political comments. Maybe pick another argument some place else.

alright i'll engage with this, let's take a look at this:
you gate-keeping whether or not someone can have an opinion based on whatever arbitrary criteria you decide is required doesn't strike me as super compelling, so you're going to have to put a bit more work in to convince me of that.
and while you're correct that nobody cares about my reasons for anything, i would somewhat flippantly ask if you've ever read this subforum before... nobody cares about anyone's reasons for anything.

maybe don't reply to my posts if you don't like them, i'm not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to click reply.

[alach]

a fair point!
one unfortunately undermined by the fact you totally ignored the part where i once again clarified for the simple-minded that i wasn't denigrating the idea of protest, just questioning whether or not this one in particular was going to have any impact.
if you screech that i'm a doomer who calls protests pointless and then respond to every post where i clarify that i don't think protest is pointless with another reply claiming i think protest is pointless, there comes a point where there's no longer a leg to stand on that this is my fault.

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alright i'll engage with this, let's take a look at this:
you gate-keeping whether or not someone can have an opinion based on whatever arbitrary criteria you decide is required doesn't strike me as super compelling, so you're going to have to put a bit more work in to convince me of that.
and while you're correct that nobody cares about my reasons for anything, i would somewhat flippantly ask if you've ever read this subforum before... nobody cares about anyone's reasons for anything.

maybe don't reply to my posts if you don't like them, i'm not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to click reply.

Nope, you sure aren't. Just giving you some friendly advice.
You do you, bud.