Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[alach]

Heres an article that is directed against trump co. and his shennigans.
Republicans are ridiculing ‘No Kings.’ A striking new poll shows Americans aren’t laughing
The article is trying to frame this as how unpopular trump is, but here is the frightening bit;

The survey from the Public Religion Research Institute gave people two options. One was that Trump is a “potentially dangerous dictator whose power should be limited before he destroys democracy.” The other was that he’s a “strong leader who should be given the power he needs to restore America’s greatness.”

Americans chose the “dictator” option by a strong margin, 56%-41%.

I'd argue that a whopping 41% is 20 points too high and quite disturbing.

*******

2 minutes of optimism,

[En Sabah Nur]

Kinda surprising to see Trump "Truth" out a clip of Bernie and Jon Stewart talking about just how amazingly socialist Trump is. I thought socialism was bad? Are we now going to see MAGA support socialism lol

He's absolutely only posted it because Jon says something along the lines of "are you annoyed that Trump has done what democrats haven't," though. Probably not much more thought put into it than that.

[some guy]

Kinda surprising to see Trump "Truth" out a clip of Bernie and Jon Stewart talking about just how amazingly socialist Trump is. I thought socialism was bad? Are we now going to see MAGA support socialism lol

He's absolutely only posted it because Jon says something along the lines of "are you annoyed that Trump has done what democrats haven't," though. Probably not much more thought put into it than that.

When they do it, it's not socialism. They called something stupid like freedom-nomics or patriot capitalism.

[fwc577]

Heres an article that is directed against trump co. and his shennigans.
Republicans are ridiculing ‘No Kings.’ A striking new poll shows Americans aren’t laughing
The article is trying to frame this as how unpopular trump is, but here is the frightening bit;

I'd argue that a whopping 41% is 20 points too high and quite disturbing.

*******

2 minutes of optimism,

Maybe the sleeping giant should've actually woken up in 2020 and not hit the snooze button and overslept in 2024.

[david0925]

At this point you have roughly 40% people who should not only not able to vote every again but also never make any decisions for anyone else in any capacity

[Belize]

Maybe the sleeping giant should've actually woken up in 2020 and not hit the snooze button and overslept in 2024.

Also in 4-8 years time, the sleeping giant will have forgotten all about what is currently happening, and will be too busy staring at its own belly-button issues to avoid making the same mistakes.

[Edge-]

F in chat for

Medicare
Social Security

My parents have saved so hopefully they'll be OK, dad still has his union insurance for the rest of his life.

But boy howdy, Donald just openly talking about killing those programs many of us have spent our entire working lifetimes paying into.

Where did our money go?

[alach]

F in chat for

Medicare
Social Security

My parents have saved so hopefully they'll be OK, dad still has his union insurance for the rest of his life.

But boy howdy, Donald just openly talking about killing those programs many of us have spent our entire working lifetimes paying into.

Where did our money go?

To billionaires and millionaires.
Isn't that the plan?

[Kathandira]

F in chat for

Medicare
Social Security

My parents have saved so hopefully they'll be OK, dad still has his union insurance for the rest of his life.

But boy howdy, Donald just openly talking about killing those programs many of us have spent our entire working lifetimes paying into.

Where did our money go?

Got a link to anything about that. I need to see it.

[Edge-]

Got a link to anything about that. I need to see it.

https://www.newsweek.com/social-secu...trump-10915076

President Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.

Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, "It means death."

"There's nothing about death," Trump said. "Theirs is death because they're going to lose Medicaid, they're going to lose Social Security, they're going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you're not going to have any kind of medical insurance."

Also, he's going after SSDI - https://www.cbpp.org/blog/trump-admi...rticularly-for

Despite repeatedly promising not to cut Social Security, the Trump Administration is reportedly preparing a proposed rule that could reduce the share of applicants who qualify for Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) by up to 20 percent, according to an Urban Institute report that cites writing by a former Trump Administration official and interviews with former staff at the Social Security Administration (SSA). This would be the largest cut in SSDI history.

SSDI is an integral part of Social Security. It provides essential benefits to workers who cannot support themselves through earnings due to severe and long-lasting disabilities that significantly impede their ability to work, and it helps to prevent beneficiaries and their families from experiencing poverty.

The rule would make it much more difficult to qualify for both SSDI and Supplemental Security Income (SSI). Because it would dramatically change the eligibility criteria for older applicants, the losses among people over age 50 would be much deeper.

The rule is likely to be the largest-ever cut to Social Security Disability Insurance. A 20 percent cut in the share of applicants who qualify for SSDI would be larger than any previous change to the program. It would be even larger than the Reagan-era disability cuts, which the Reagan Administration was forced to reverse amid fierce opposition from governors, courts, beneficiaries, and advocates. According to an Urban Institute analysis, even a cut half the size of what the Trump Administration is considering would mean 750,000 fewer people would receive SSDI benefits within ten years. In addition to reducing the share of applicants who receive benefits, some current beneficiaries could see their benefits taken away when their eligibility is reviewed.

The rule would particularly hurt older workers. Like the rest of Social Security, SSDI serves largely older people; nearly 80 percent of disabled workers are aged 50 or older. SSDI benefits provide vital support to people whose careers are cut short by severe medical impairments. The rule is expected to target older applicants already determined to have significant medical impairments by discounting the barriers they face due to their age in continuing to do substantial work — despite the law’s requirement that the Social Security Administration (SSA) consider how age, education, and skills might make working harder, in addition to considering health conditions.

It’s already difficult at any age to qualify for disability benefits, given their stringent rules. Research shows applicants whose impairments are not severe enough to qualify for SSDI fare poorly in their attempts to return to work — especially if they’re older. Rejecting more older applicants will cause more hardship for people who would be eligible for benefits under the existing rules.

The rule will likely cause disproportionate harm to people living in the South and Appalachia. Some states have a higher share of people receiving disability benefits, particularly those with more older workers with fewer years of formal education, and who are more likely to have worked in physical jobs like manufacturing or mining. That is true of many Southern and Appalachian states, as well as Maine and the Rust Belt states of Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. The proposed rule drafted during the first Trump Administration would reportedly change the way SSA considers education as well as age, and because residents of these states are on average older and less educated, these changes will hit them doubly hard.

The mantra continues: "I got mine, fuck everyone else." Donald is getting his, fuck all you Americans who need help or anything.

[Kaleredar]

Heres an article that is directed against trump co. and his shennigans.
Republicans are ridiculing ‘No Kings.’ A striking new poll shows Americans aren’t laughing
The article is trying to frame this as how unpopular trump is, but here is the frightening bit;

I'd argue that a whopping 41% is 20 points too high and quite disturbing.

I’ll give that poll a little bit of a rebuke only in the sense that it frames its two choices in a way that “centrists” would, in their political ignorance, see as extreme options (even though the first is an absolutely accurate assessment) with the second option seemingly less hyperbolic (again, to a political ignoramus who unfortunately decide elections.) So that might have skewed responses more in favor of answering to the second than the first.

All that is to say, I think more people actually disapprove of Trump than even this poll would indicate; the question is just put in a way that the politically disengaged would take issue with. Something more akin to “do you think Trump is leading the US in the right direction, yes or no” is probably a bit more level-headed. It also filters out the uncertainty from a question as seemingly balanced as “do you think trump is doing a good job” which may falsely under-report overall support for Trump because it misses all of the even further right wing whackos who only “don’t think he’s doing a good job” because they want him to be more extreme and otherwise fully support him.

[alach]

I’ll give that poll a little bit of a rebuke only in the sense that it frames its two choices in a way that “centrists” would, in their political ignorance, see as extreme options (even though the first is an absolutely accurate assessment) with the second option seemingly less hyperbolic (again, to a political ignoramus who unfortunately decide elections.) So that might have skewed responses more in favor of answering to the second than the first.

All that is to say, I think more people actually disapprove of Trump than even this poll would indicate; the question is just put in a way that the politically disengaged would take issue with. Something more akin to “do you think Trump is leading the US in the right direction, yes or no” is probably a bit more level-headed. It also filters out the uncertainty from a question as seemingly balanced as “do you think trump is doing a good job” which may falsely under-report overall support for Trump because it misses all of the even further right wing whackos who only “don’t think he’s doing a good job” because they want him to be more extreme and otherwise fully support him.

Agreed, and it's admitted to be rather error-prone in the article.
Ad to above, of course he lied, like when he was asked in the debate about project 2025 and he lied, badly. He is a terrible liar for someone who does it so frequently.

[Edge-]

A Christian music star born without arms has been arrested on charges of possessing and producing child pornography.

Jon Paul Sheptock, 49, served as the worship minister at the First Montgomery Baptist Church in Texas before these shocking allegations came to light.

According to a statement by Ryan Gable, a constable at the Montgomery County Constable Precinct 3 office, detectives first tried to arrest the singer at his home in September but were unable to find him.

The Human Trafficking and Child Exploitation Unit eventually caught up with the suspect while he was working at a local women’s prison where he served as a minister.

At a Donald Trump rally in January 2022, Sheptock was recruited to sing the national anthem before later posing with the president and his son for pictures.

https://www.the-independent.com/news...-b2849918.html

Crazy how many pedophiles are around donald. he's like, the ultimate honeypot or something probably because he rapes kids too

[Gorsameth]

https://www.newsweek.com/social-secu...trump-10915076



Also, he's going after SSDI - https://www.cbpp.org/blog/trump-admi...rticularly-for



The mantra continues: "I got mine, fuck everyone else." Donald is getting his, fuck all you Americans who need help or anything.

So Trump is proposing the one thing that might actually lead to an armed rebellion against the government if Democrats don't let him slowly boil the frog?

Ok....
Go ahead, try.

[Edge-]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-amid-shutdown

US citizens are free once more to buy some of the country’s most deadly firearms and gun accessories, after relentless lobbying by the gun industry and Republican politicians forced a concession from the Trump administration under the federal government shutdown.

As of this week, gun owners will be able to restart purchases of some of the most highly regulated weapons in the US, with the return to work of federal employees responsible for regulating the items now reclassified as “essential”. They include silencers, short-barreled rifles and vintage machine-guns produced before 1986.

Sales of those items had ground to a halt under the shutdown after federal examiners charged with regulating the purchases were furloughed. The examiners formed part of the NFA division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).

The weapons have long been recognized as posing an outsized risk to public safety, ever since the National Firearms Act under which they are regulated was passed in 1934. Commonly known as “gangster weapons”, the firearms have proliferated in recent years and are now among the bestsellers in the gun market.

The government shutdown and layoffs and program stoppages aren't because "we don't have money".

The administration clearly has a LOT of money and is very intentionally choosing where to spend it, using the shutdown as an excuse.

Once more: Nobody in this administration is a good person. Nobody supporting this administration is a good person. No Republican is a good person. Period.

[Breccia]

Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.

That's news to me, my paycheck still had SS deducted from it.

[Rasulis]

This is a good use of the National Guard.

Now in its third week, the ongoing federal government shutdown will likely delay food benefits for millions of Californians -- prompting Gov. Gavin Newsom to set aside $80 million in state support and deploy the California National Guard to assist food banks.

[Edge-]

This is a good use of the National Guard.

Now in its third week, the ongoing federal government shutdown will likely delay food benefits for millions of Californians -- prompting Gov. Gavin Newsom to set aside $80 million in state support and deploy the California National Guard to assist food banks.

republicans: lets use the national guard to pick up trash, do landscaping, and stand around federal buildings

democrats: lets use the national guard to actually help people

[Draco-Onis]

That's news to me, my paycheck still had SS deducted from it.

lol, of course they aren't going to stop taking it there's crypto data centers and Argentina to bail out.

[btlcryct]

lol, of course they aren't going to stop taking it there's crypto data centers and Argentina to bail out.

Don't forget ballrooms and arches that need building!