Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Fugus]

I've so enjoyed learning of the economics of homeowners debt over the last several pages but can we move on?
It's like if I spent two days on the pros and cons of donkey wagons in metropolitan areas in the Russian Invasion thread.
We are hours away from the next Dem being sworn in after a month and the Epstein files about to be blown open again.

Evidently the administration has been laying into Bobert to get her to remove her name from the petition. Might have the reopening delayed until they have someone remove their name.

[Zaydin]

Evidently the administration has been laying into Bobert to get her to remove her name from the petition. Might have the reopening delayed until they have someone remove their name.

Pedo King DonOLD sure is behaving like a man who knows he did something criminal for all his insistence that he did nothing wrong.

[Draco-Onis]

Jeffrey Epstein Helped Israel Sell a Surveillance State to Côte d’Ivoire

Jeffrey Epstein and Ehud Barak were specialists in war profiteering. At the end of his tenure as Israel’s defense minister and after his supposed “retirement,” Barak embraced a role as a salesman of Israeli security services to embattled governments, opening the door for Israeli intelligence leaders to shape the security apparatuses of several African nations, including the country of Côte d’Ivoire.

Quietly facilitating these efforts was Jeffrey Epstein, who died in jail in 2019. Epstein wrote at one point to Barak: “with civil unrest exploding [...] and the desperation of those in power, isn’t this perfect for you.” Barak replied:, “You’re right [in] a way. But not simple to transform it into a cash flow.” Transforming unrest into cash flow, in the case of Côte d’Ivoire, involved brokering deals between the Israeli state and the embattled West African nation.

New details about Epstein’s role in Israeli intelligence operations in Africa have emerged from two sets of documents: an archive of leaked emails released by the Handala hacking group and hosted by non-profit whistleblower site Distributed Denial of Secrets and documents released by the U.S. House Oversight Committee last month. The latter set includes Epstein’s personal emails and appointment calendars, which provide clear evidence of Epstein’s involvement in Israel’s West African security negotiations in 2012, while Barak was still Israel’s Defense Minister.

The two men worked together as a conduit for Israel’s intelligence sector in Côte d’Ivoire, where Barak was welcomed as a representative of the Israeli government even after leaving public office. Epstein helped Barak deliver a proposal for mass surveillance of Ivorian phone and internet communications, crafted by former Israeli intelligence officials.

As in Mongolia, Epstein and Barak’s private deal-making evolved seamlessly into an official security agreement between Israel and Côte d’Ivoire in 2014. Since the agreement was signed, over a decade ago, President Alassane Ouattara has tightened his grip on power, banning public demonstrations and arresting peaceful protestors. In this October’s election, the octogenarian won a fourth term, in defiance of constitutional term limits, while opposition candidates were barred from participation.

Today, Ouattara continues to enjoy the support of Israeli security firms to help him maintain power. His Israeli-backed police state has squashed civic organizations and silenced critics. In the wake of the recent election, exiled activist Boga Sako Gervais denounced Ouattara’s authoritarian slide: “Under Ouattara, since 2011, freedoms of opinion, thought, and expression have been criminalized,” he said. “It has become forbidden to criticize the head of state.”

The story of Israel’s security agreement with Côte d’Ivoire is only one chapter in the saga of Epstein and Barak’s covert activities in Africa—it is reported here as the next entry in an ongoing series on Epstein’s ties to Israel’s intelligence.

There's 100% chance the Israeli government has a copy of all the Epstein evidence on Trump for "friendly reminders" let's call it.

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Evidently the administration has been laying into Bobert to get her to remove her name from the petition. Might have the reopening delayed until they have someone remove their name.

According to MTG Trump is calling every republican personally to curse them out.

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Pedo King DonOLD sure is behaving like a man who knows he did something criminal for all his insistence that he did nothing wrong.

a picture is worth a thousand words

[Breccia]

White House says October jobs/inflation reports will not happen because Democrats.

[Zaydin]

White House says October jobs/inflation reports will not happen because Democrats.

Translation: It contains a lot of bad news for Trump that can't be blamed on the shutdown.

[Bodakane]

Wouldn't be great if we just believed the victims. They've already named Trump.

[Valdhammer]

Wouldn't be great if we just believed the victims. They've already named Trump.

Did you see what the Republicans are saying to discredit and minimize the email someone posted above? They released the victim’s name to prove that Trump couldn’t possibly have done anything wrong with her because she didn’t name him as one of her abusers before she killed herself. This is what they believe vindication looks like. Fuckin hell…

[Breccia]

Translation: It contains a lot of bad news for Trump that can't be blamed on the shutdown.

True, but they already released reports that...oh. Right. Trump fired those people.

I still say that reasonable people who take their economics seriously will not believe Trump on these numbers anymore. They will look to private sources.

[Zaydin]

According to released emails, Epstein declared that Bill Clinton never Epsteins island. He also said he never met Al Gore.

MAGA is not going to take this well given "But Clinton!" was one of their favorite whataboutisms when it came to Epstein.

[Bodakane]

Did you see what the Republicans are saying to discredit and minimize the email someone posted above? They released the victim’s name to prove that Trump couldn’t possibly have done anything wrong with her because she didn’t name him as one of her abusers before she killed herself. This is what they believe vindication looks like. Fuckin hell…

Cultists gonna cult.

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True, but they already released reports that...oh. Right. Trump fired those people.

I still say that reasonable people who take their economics seriously will not believe Trump on these numbers anymore. They will look to private sources.

But, but, but DoorDash numbers said the economy was great!?!?!?!?!??!??!?!

[Breccia]

He also said he never met Al Gore.

This can't possibly surprise anyone. With the exception of an appearance on Futurama, Al Gore had the charisma of a spray bottle of Lysol with the cap on. He's pretty low on the list of people you'd invite to, well, literally anything.

[Tech614]

This can't possibly surprise anyone. With the exception of an appearance on Futurama, Al Gore had the charisma of a spray bottle of Lysol with the cap on. He's pretty low on the list of people you'd invite to, well, literally anything.

He still beat George W Bush if we had a fair and free election though.

Never forget the only time an election was actually stolen, it was the republicans in Florida that stole it.

[DarkTZeratul]

Trump once again floats the idea of making Americans love him by giving them a check.

To quote the Daily Show:

"Wait a second... Okay... Trump's making everybody pay tariffs, but only poor people are getting the $2000 checks, so he's just redistributing taxes from rich people to poor people... Did... Did Donald Trump just stupid himself into socialism?"

[Breccia]

Federal Judge Plans to Release Some Immigrants Arrested in Chicago Area

Turns out, you can't just arrest people without warrants.

Earlier this year, the judge, Jeffrey Cummings of U.S. District Court, identified several instances in which immigration agents made arrests without warrants issued in advance, in apparent violation of a consent decree.

Judge Cummings said that he planned to order the release of most people in a group of 615 immigration detainees. Those released would have to post a bond and would be electronically monitored while their cases proceeded in immigration court.

It was not clear how many of those people, many of whom are believed to have been arrested during the administration’s recent crackdown on illegal immigration in the Chicago area, are still in the United States. The judge agreed to give government lawyers time to note anyone they believe poses a public safety threat but barred the government for now from deporting anyone in that group.

“They still will have to go to court,” said Judge Cummings, who issued rulings from the bench but had not released a written order by Wednesday evening. “They still will be subject to removal upon an immigration court order.”

Tricia McLaughlin, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, criticized the judge’s decision and said it put lives at risk.

“At every turn, activist judges, sanctuary politicians and violent rioters have actively tried to prevent our law enforcement officers from arresting and removing the worst of the worst,” Ms. McLaughlin said in an emailed statement.

"Wait, but the judge said they had to go to their trial."

Yes.

"And the judge said the government would be notified in case any were a threat."

Yes.

"How is this putting lives at risk?"

Because Team Trump is pushing the narrative that brown people are rapists and murderers. In a related story, Trump blew up another ship and enjoyed Epstein's island.

[Rasulis]

While I can't say I have a lot of experience with this sort of thing, I can say that at least when my mother-in-law died, the mortgage company was perfectly happy to just transfer the mortgage for her home as-is to my wife without anything more complicated than a few phone calls and the death certificate.

All mortgage agreements in the US have due-on-sale clause which that allows lenders to require borrowers to repay the remaining balance of their loan in full if the house or asset is resold or transferred in its entirety or partial. But the Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act of 1982 spells out several situations in which lenders can't enforce due-on-sale clauses in loans:

• when a joint tenant or tenant by the entirety dies,
• when the property is transferred to a trust or LLC, and
• when the property is transferred to a relative upon the death of a borrower.

I bolded the last bullet because it is pertinent to the question here. It removes the only leverage that lenders have to force the beneficiaries to reapply for a new mortgage. In essence, without the threat of due-on-sale clause, the lender can't require the new owner to reapply for a mortgage, and the terms of the existing mortgage—including the interest rate and the number of remaining payments—seamlessly transfer to the new owner. Even if the new owner has really crappy credit rating. As long as the new owner kept making the monthly payments, the lender is stuck with the terms of the existing mortgage.

[alach]

To no one who has been paying attentions surprise, trump's grand economic plan is turning out to be a huge failure.

“The Democrat shutdown made it extraordinarily difficult for economists, investors and policymakers at the Federal Reserve to receive critical government data,” Leavitt said.

Leavitt added that the shutdown could lower fourth-quarter economic growth by up to 2 percentage points. Earlier in the afternoon, Kevin Hassett, director of the National Economic Council, said the impasse might shave up to 1.5 percentage points from current-quarter GDP.

She said with a straight face, conveniently forgetting that the republicans control the house, senate, and white house, who trump has said repeatedly that it is up to the sitting President to work a deal out during a shutdown, and that the jobs down turn started well before the government shutdown. Also, the trump administration fired all the people responsible for accurate jobs numbers to they could hide the truth.

US lost jobs through late October, new private-sector data shows
WASHINGTON, Nov 11 (Reuters) - U.S. firms were shedding more than 11,000 jobs a week through late October, payroll processor ADP said on Tuesday in its latest real-time estimate of job market trends.

Though an ADP report last week estimated the U.S. overall added 42,000 jobs in October versus the month before, the new estimates show how hiring trends are evolving on a week-to-week basis - in this case pointing to further weakening in a labor market being closely monitored by Federal Reserve policymakers.

There is evidence that the US is on the verge, or could already be in a recession.
‘Things are pretty crappy.’ 1 in 4 US households are living paycheck to paycheck

Shocker, shocker. The failed business man has failed the US economy with terrible policies that were predicted to fail the economy and they will continue, even though trump is walking back some of his bigly, super important tariffs already, - because the current dumbass of a POTUS is a narcissist.

Man, really wish all the trump supporters hadn't been banned, would love to hear how this is part of the grand plan and is working as intended.

Sorry, @Breccia, just noticed you already posted this.

Wow, looks like the msm has updated their trump/epstein story recaps that appear pretty damning for poor fatty trump.

[Gorsameth]

1/4 of American living paycheck to paycheck would be an economic miracle, when earlier this year and last year the data was that up to 2/3 were living paycheck to paycheck.

[Kathandira]

1/4 of American living paycheck to paycheck would be an economic miracle, when earlier this year and last year the data was that up to 2/3 were living paycheck to paycheck.

Out of curiosity. How is that evaluated? One person's Paycheck to Paycheck might be different than another's.

For example, if they are maxing out on non-essentials causing them to live paycheck to paycheck to maintain their life of excess is different than a person who has nothing living on the essentials alone with no money beyond that.

[Draco-Onis]

Out of curiosity. How is that evaluated? One person's Paycheck to Paycheck might be different than another's.

For example, if they are maxing out on non-essentials causing them to live paycheck to paycheck to maintain their life of excess is different than a person who has nothing living on the essentials alone with no money beyond that.

It's based on hard data such as cost of living, debt and other metrics and isn't self reported. If you want another depressing point of data

Most Americans can't afford a $1,000 emergency expense, report finds

[Kathandira]

It's based on hard data such as cost of living, debt and other metrics and isn't self reported. If you want another depressing point of data

Most Americans can't afford a $1,000 emergency expense, report finds

Thanks! I was hoping it was data based, and not "Do you live paycheck to paycheck: Yes or No". lol

"59% of Americans in 2025 don't have enough savings to cover an unexpected $1,000 emergency expense"

That is seriously depressing.