Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[callipygoustp]

"59% of Americans in 2025 don't have enough savings to cover an unexpected $1,000 emergency expense"

"Richest country in the world!"

Fucking horseshit.

[Mayhem]

Thanks! I was hoping it was data based, and not "Do you live paycheck to paycheck: Yes or No". lol

"59% of Americans in 2025 don't have enough savings to cover an unexpected $1,000 emergency expense"

That is seriously depressing.

Meanwhile in socialist european union it's 70% that can cover a 1000€ emergency expense.

Oh and if you're interested, because that's obviously the average between 27 countries, the countries doing the worst are Bulgaria and Latvia, where it's 45% who can't afford a 1000€ emergency expense.

[Flarelaine]

As an aside, few things are more infuriating than a coworker who not only does not work on payday because she needs to check her texts every 5 minutes to see if we already got paid but is also whining all day (and possibly the next) until it happens.

[Draco-Onis]

Thanks! I was hoping it was data based, and not "Do you live paycheck to paycheck: Yes or No". lol

"59% of Americans in 2025 don't have enough savings to cover an unexpected $1,000 emergency expense"

That is seriously depressing.

But it gets so much worse than this medical bankruptcies now at an all time high (500,000 people per year, 23 million Americans total so far), that's before the ACA subsidies getting destroyed, student debt also record high (1.81 trillion) and car loan sector melting down (1.6-1.7 trillion). Everything is literally going to shit with Trump siding with corporations and destroying every consumer protection on the books, loan sharks I mean payday lenders are now charging 275%+ interest because the government agency that used to stop them is gutted.

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"Richest country in the world!"

Fucking horseshit.

It's richest country not richest people

[Santti]

Meanwhile in socialist european union it's 70% that can cover a 1000€ emergency expense.

Oh and if you're interested, because that's obviously the average between 27 countries, the countries doing the worst are Bulgaria and Latvia, where it's 45% who can't afford a 1000€ emergency expense.

How is that calculated, I wonder? Because 1000€ is just not the same between different countries.

[Mayhem]

How is that calculated, I wonder? Because 1000€ is just not the same between different countries.

link knock yourself out figuring out how the EU does it, but these are the reported numbers for the previous years.

[Kathandira]

How is that calculated, I wonder? Because 1000€ is just not the same between different countries.

Even at $1,000 that is hardly an emergency fund. That is a save your butt for low cost emergencies. Like, needing two new tires sort of low cost. Or, needing to call a plumber

All essential bills covered for 6 months is a proper emergency fund in my personal opinion. 3 months is a good start.

[Edge-]

https://www.npr.org/2025/11/12/nx-s1...rijalva-massie

Democrats on the House Oversight Committee released three new emails Wednesday morning from the estate of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein that mention President Trump, raising new questions about the extent of their relationship.

Republicans on the House Oversight Committee later Wednesday released the latest set of more than 20,000 documents that include emails from Epstein frequently expressing displeasure with Trump and his presidency, financial market reports and court documents from Epstein's cases.

"The more Donald Trump tries to cover-up the Epstein files, the more we uncover," Oversight Ranking Member Rep. Robert Garcia, D-Calif. said in a statement. "These latest emails and correspondence raise glaring questions about what else the White House is hiding and the nature of the relationship between Epstein and the President."

In one 2015 email between Epstein and author Michael Wolff, the pair discuss a potential question from an upcoming CNN appearance about Trump and Epstein's personal ties.

"I think you should let him hang himself," Wolff wrote. "If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or, if it really looks like he could win, you could save him, generating a debt."

The "suicide" continues to make more and more sense.

Another email Epstein sent in 2011 to Ghislaine Maxwell, his associate who has been convicted on trafficking charges, called Trump the "dog that hasn't barked" and says Trump spent "hours at my house" with one of the alleged sex trafficking victims.

Still another is a 2019 message between Epstein and Wolff in which the disgraced financier wrote that "of course [Trump] knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop." The email does not elaborate any further.

"I have met some very bad people, none as bad as Trump," Epstein wrote in 2017 to former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers. "Not one decent cell in his body."

Lmao

On Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt sent a statement to NPR that said in part "the Democrats selectively leaked emails to the liberal media to create a fake narrative to smear President Trump."

"These stories are nothing more than bad-faith efforts to distract from President Trump's historic accomplishments, and any American with common sense sees right through this hoax and clear distraction from the government opening back up again," Leavitt wrote.

Curious what this context makes these emails not awful and more confirmation that Donald is indeed a child rapist being protected by the Republican party, supposedly "devout Christians" who supposedly really care about protecting children.

[alach]

Polls show less than half of Republicans approve of the way trump is handling this before today.
I think by next week we can safely say anyone still supporting him is fine with pedophilia without a doubt.
I expect the rats to start fleeing the ship. This is getting bigger by the hour - and we are still days away from a house vote after trump will totally veto it, claiming how innocent he is.

Sources say Maxwell has been preparing her papers for a trump pardon, expecting it any day.

[Draco-Onis]

https://www.npr.org/2025/11/12/nx-s1...rijalva-massie



The "suicide" continues to make more and more sense.



Lmao



Curious what this context makes these emails not awful and more confirmation that Donald is indeed a child rapist being protected by the Republican party, supposedly "devout Christians" who supposedly really care about protecting children.

The worst part is this is not even the main course, this is the appetizers we don't even have the Epstein files. My main big question is why the fuck did Joe Biden and his justice department sit on this shit and let him even have a political future let alone be president again.

[alach]

The worst part is this is not even the main course, this is the appetizers we don't even have the Epstein files. My main big question is why the fuck did Joe Biden and his justice department sit on this shit and let him even have a political future let alone be president again.

This ain't about Biden. Trump used it as a campaign promise, he owns it.

[Fugus]

This ain't about Biden. Trump used it as a campaign promise, he owns it.

It’s both.

Trump owns it for making it a campaign promise and leaning so hard into it.

Biden owns the part of “Why the hell did you drop it when you took office?”.

But I think a good deal of Biden’s problem falls onto the shoulders of Merrick Garland who refused to so much as look at anything Trump related for the first year because he was afraid of looking political which made him one of the most political AGs we ever had.

[Draco-Onis]

This ain't about Biden. Trump used it as a campaign promise, he owns it.

I never said it was but it's worth pointing out the reason we are in this hellscape is because they lacked the balls to go after him. It must be because the Epstein files allegedly is filled with donors to both parties but still they had this nuke in their hands for years and never used it.

[alach]

Wow @the both sides argument.
It's really true you get who you deserve in American politics.
Anyways, should be an interesting week, Trump is getting bad news from every direction at the moment, but it's all good, he declared anti-fascist movements in Europe terrorists.

[Fugus]

Wow @the both sides argument.
It's really true you get who you deserve in American politics.
Anyways, should be an interesting week, Trump is getting bad news from every direction at the moment, but it's all good, he declared anti-fascist movements in Europe terrorists.

It’s not discounting just how bad Trump is, it is pointing out how Biden could have prevented all this if he had gone into it when he was in office instead of just dropping it.

That’s not attempting to both sides the argument like they are both equally bad but point out how one of them directly led to the other and could have prevented it.

[Draco-Onis]

Wow @the both sides argument.
It's really true you get who you deserve in American politics.
Anyways, should be an interesting week, Trump is getting bad news from every direction at the moment, but it's all good, he declared anti-fascist movements in Europe terrorists.

I don't see how this is both sides, Biden isn't a pedophile as far as we know but to deny the fact that he had the power to stop Trump but didn't is acknowledging reality. I want you to imagine if this had come out anytime before the election or after he left office after doing January 6th. We could have finished off this asshole while his approval rating was in the crater but NOOO Biden wanted to "reach across the isle" , "heal the country" and all that bullshit.

Let me ask the obvious, do you think that if Trump's justice department had something this bad on Obama or Biden they would just do nothing with it?

[Flarelaine]

I agree the Democrats can be criticized for a lot of things.

We have a thread dedicated to that purpose.

[Fugus]

As it stands. It looks like the Republicans let Trump off the hook with the expectation that the Democrats would actually have the balls to hold him accountable while Biden was in office so they could either martyr him or ignore him in the next election.

Instead Garland refused to even look in Trumps general direction for the first year and he had enough loyalists in SCOTUS and congress to stall through the rest of it and flat out refused to look at Epstein.

If Garland had hit the ground day one and went after objective crimes we had evidence of, which is his job, they would have had a lot more issues obstructing for that long.

If he had even taken a glance at the Epstein stuff the whole party would have dropped Trump instantly and countless of his enablers would have gone down as well. But I am guessing they were afraid of getting their own in the fallout…

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I agree the Democrats can be criticized for a lot of things.

We have a thread dedicated to that purpose.

Understood, was just pointing out that calling out a fact related to this wasn’t both siding the issue, it was just stated related facts and criticisms that left us here.

[Draco-Onis]

As it stands. It looks like the Republicans let Trump off the hook with the expectation that the Democrats would actually have the balls to hold him accountable while Biden was in office so they could either martyr him or ignore him in the next election.

The republican party at least my initial impression after Jan 6th thought Trump's career was over and they were scared of the base so they didn't want to dirty their hands. Lindsey Graham is prime example of this he turned on Trump then did a 180 because of the blowback, Trump's cult of personality is the GOP base there was no way they would have stood up to him.

[Breccia]

Man, really wish all the trump supporters hadn't been banned, would love to hear how this is part of the grand plan and is working as intended.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear it too, but as none of them ever answered even when I asked politely, you were never going to hear it either way. It is not possible to be a Trump supporter and also reasonable/logical. They only option they had was to lie and hide.