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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    The Trump Bots on Social Media sites are pushing "The released emails prove Trump innocent!" I am just like "What emails prove him innocent?"

    The emails confirm he was in contact with Epstein after he supposedly cut contact, that he spent time with Virginia for hours at Epstein house, that he clearly failed to report the abuse going on, etc ...

    The only thing they have is that Epstein didn't like him. Which boils down to if Epstein disliked you, that you must be good because Epstein was bad. But, that's not how things work. Two terrible people can hate each other. And history is full of examples of bad people who hated other bad people.

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    You know. The fact that it is this and not Trump getting a Golden Shower for what Putin may have on Trump was not on my 2025 Bingo card.
    Especially the one that he spends over 4 hours in a bedroom with a little girl alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Apparently Epstein's brother has clarified that Bubba isn't Bill Clinton but someone else but he won't say who. All we know for sure is that several countries have pictures of Trump and Bubba including Russia which explains a lot. However just for the lolz I am going to keep thinking it's Clinton.
    While I have in no way verified this and don't care enough to bother, I heard someone mention that Ghislaine Maxwell's horse was named Bubba.


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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    Guess he hasn't settled on a petty nickname yet, but I'm enjoying this.


    I love it. "It's a hoax, there's nothing in it, and also you're a traitor to this great nation if you want it to become public." Yep, yep, tells you everything about his supporters you need to know.
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    I don't think
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinChan View Post
    What makes you think this has any lasting impact though? Say they got rid of Trump over this… They all still voted comfortably for a pedophile and many in office are using him anyways as a tool. So they’re fine with a pedophilic mouthpiece.

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    I wish you were wrong but it’s probably true they have more problems with Trump being bisexual / gay and blowing someone (not being blown).
    It does matter. Quite abit actually,

    The political danger of the Epstein files for Trump
    That’s because people are primed to believe there’s a real conspiracy beneath the surface, and Trump’s actions risk making him own it.

    The polling tells the tale.

    This is perhaps Trump’s worst issue, by the margin who disapprove. Americans generally disapprove of his and the administration’s handling of the Epstein matter by around a 3-to-1 margin in most polls. The most recent poll, a Reuters-Ipsos survey from last month, showed Americans disapproved of Trump’s handling of it 57%-19%. Independents disapproved 59%-10%.

    And like virtually every other survey on the topic, not even a majority of Republicans said they approved: 44%.
    Americans are also quite unhappy with the administration’s transparency and disclosure.

    An August Pew Research Center survey showed 63% of Americans and even 38% of Republican-leaning Americans had little or no trust in what the Trump administration was saying about the matter.

    Similarly, an August Quinnipiac University poll showed voters said 73%-16% that the Justice Department wasn’t being transparent about its investigation.

    All of that said, this is clearly not a top-tier issue for most Americans. Relatively few have seemed to be paying close attention. Only about one-quarter were following it “extremely” or “very” closely in the Pew survey.
    And the weird, creepy, way he is handling it just makes sure that it will be in the headlines. If more Republicans break from him next week, as expected, and he attacks them, as expected, this could easily be the main news story for several months at least.


    And holy crap! I never in a million years thought MTG to wake up with common sense, especially not one of the first. She was basically the birther of MAGA and now she is making more sense than some left-wing commentators. What universe is this? What happened??
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    So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alach View Post
    And holy crap! I never in a million years thought MTG to wake up with common sense, especially not one of the first. She was basically the birther of MAGA and now she is making more sense than some left-wing commentators. What universe is this? What happened??
    AOC speculates it's because she wanted to run for Senate in 2026, and Trump told her no, so now she's out for blood. For what it's worth MTG says it's not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alach View Post
    And holy crap! I never in a million years thought MTG to wake up with common sense, especially not one of the first. She was basically the birther of MAGA and now she is making more sense than some left-wing commentators. What universe is this? What happened??
    Maybe she remembered she's a mother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    While I have in no way verified this and don't care enough to bother, I heard someone mention that Ghislaine Maxwell's horse was named Bubba.
    Just when you think there's a bottom (pun intended) Trump shows there's always his sub basements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alach View Post
    It does matter. Quite abit actually,

    The political danger of the Epstein files for Trump


    And the weird, creepy, way he is handling it just makes sure that it will be in the headlines. If more Republicans break from him next week, as expected, and he attacks them, as expected, this could easily be the main news story for several months at least.


    And holy crap! I never in a million years thought MTG to wake up with common sense, especially not one of the first. She was basically the birther of MAGA and now she is making more sense than some left-wing commentators. What universe is this? What happened??
    She's an actual true believer in the insane shit she peddles. That's one on the big splits I think we are going to see in Republican leaders and elected officials, half are just using all the conspiracy deep state rhetoric to support their grift and bids for power. The other half actually thinks it's all true and won't drop the subjects when it's no longer politically viable.

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    Wait… Trump blew Bill Clinton? How did I miss this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    Wait… Trump blew Bill Clinton? How did I miss this?
    this reads as if you were at a party with both of them
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    I don't think
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    So, MAGA is starting to eat their own now. Kash Patel, Vivek Ramaswamy, Dinesh D'Souza and other prominent Conservative Indian Americans are now actively being targeted by the same bigoted people who voted for Trump.

    Remember, if you aren't white, male and a specific type of christian, you are considered "the other" and will be expelled in their world. MTG is starting to find this out quickly as they are also targeting her outright.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ra...da3652ec&ei=12

    My favorite is this from Dinesh:

    “In a career spanning 40 years, I have never encountered this type of rhetoric. The Right never used to talk like this. So who on our side has legitimized this type of vile degradation?”
    Sorry Dinesh, they literally talked like this. You just never went to any area where they were open about it. The far south has had no issue basically saying that you are lesser than them. And Dinesh, you want to know who legitimized it? The person you voted for and supported. Trump. He literally put a white nationalist in charge of all immigration policy. A one Mr. Stephen Miller. He put a Christian Nationalist as his VP. He also put another Christian Nationalist as someone who is in charge of multiple government agencies dealing with firing of government workers. A one Mr. Russell Vaught.

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    It's always "But I thought you thought I was one of the 'good ones'! Why are you being so racist to me when I've done everything you wanted me to, after I spent decades watching you be racist to everyone else who looks like me!"

    All playing ball ever does with fascists is put you closer to the bottom of the list. It never takes you off the list, and the moment you're no longer useful to them, you go right to the top of the list.

    These are very stupid people. But we're talking about Dinesh D'souza, here, that should go without saying. The man's always been a complete fuckin' moron.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    It's always "But I thought you thought I was one of the 'good ones'! Why are you being so racist to me when I've done everything you wanted me to, after I spent decades watching you be racist to everyone else who looks like me!"

    All playing ball ever does with fascists is put you closer to the bottom of the list. It never takes you off the list, and the moment you're no longer useful to them, you go right to the top of the list.

    These are very stupid people. But we're talking about Dinesh D'souza, here, that should go without saying. The man's always been a complete fuckin' moron.
    A good analogy is "A black slave that lives in the master's house and is his favorite is still a slave and will be treated as such when the time comes."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    So, MAGA is starting to eat their own now. Kash Patel, Vivek Ramaswamy, Dinesh D'Souza and other prominent Conservative Indian Americans are now actively being targeted by the same bigoted people who voted for Trump.

    Remember, if you aren't white, male and a specific type of christian, you are considered "the other" and will be expelled in their world. MTG is starting to find this out quickly as they are also targeting her outright.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ra...da3652ec&ei=12

    My favorite is this from Dinesh:



    Sorry Dinesh, they literally talked like this. You just never went to any area where they were open about it. The far south has had no issue basically saying that you are lesser than them. And Dinesh, you want to know who legitimized it? The person you voted for and supported. Trump. He literally put a white nationalist in charge of all immigration policy. A one Mr. Stephen Miller. He put a Christian Nationalist as his VP. He also put another Christian Nationalist as someone who is in charge of multiple government agencies dealing with firing of government workers. A one Mr. Russell Vaught.
    Only thing missing is him blaming "the left" or other PoC for not coming and having his back.
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    So, MAGA is starting to eat their own now. Kash Patel, Vivek Ramaswamy, Dinesh D'Souza and other prominent Conservative Indian Americans are now actively being targeted by the same bigoted people who voted for Trump.

    Remember, if you aren't white, male and a specific type of christian, you are considered "the other" and will be expelled in their world. MTG is starting to find this out quickly as they are also targeting her outright.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ra...da3652ec&ei=12

    My favorite is this from Dinesh:



    Sorry Dinesh, they literally talked like this. You just never went to any area where they were open about it. The far south has had no issue basically saying that you are lesser than them. And Dinesh, you want to know who legitimized it? The person you voted for and supported. Trump. He literally put a white nationalist in charge of all immigration policy. A one Mr. Stephen Miller. He put a Christian Nationalist as his VP. He also put another Christian Nationalist as someone who is in charge of multiple government agencies dealing with firing of government workers. A one Mr. Russell Vaught.
    Nobody is ever white enough. Nobody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    So, MAGA is starting to eat their own now. Kash Patel, Vivek Ramaswamy, Dinesh D'Souza and other prominent Conservative Indian Americans are now actively being targeted by the same bigoted people who voted for Trump.

    Remember, if you aren't white, male and a specific type of christian, you are considered "the other" and will be expelled in their world. MTG is starting to find this out quickly as they are also targeting her outright.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ra...da3652ec&ei=12

    My favorite is this from Dinesh:



    Sorry Dinesh, they literally talked like this. You just never went to any area where they were open about it. The far south has had no issue basically saying that you are lesser than them. And Dinesh, you want to know who legitimized it? The person you voted for and supported. Trump. He literally put a white nationalist in charge of all immigration policy. A one Mr. Stephen Miller. He put a Christian Nationalist as his VP. He also put another Christian Nationalist as someone who is in charge of multiple government agencies dealing with firing of government workers. A one Mr. Russell Vaught.
    For those people who are now being targeted, I hope they suffer.

    They pushed that rhetoric, and they stood alongside those saying it. they said it themselves.

    The right cannot suffer enough, at the hands of their own actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomcookie View Post
    For those people who are now being targeted, I hope they suffer.

    They pushed that rhetoric, and they stood alongside those saying it. they said it themselves.

    The right cannot suffer enough, at the hands of their own actions.
    Is this the time to send "Oh, anyways" or "Thoughtless prayers".

    When a political group cannibalizes itself it's so easy to make a social faux pas.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    So, MAGA is starting to eat their own now. Kash Patel, Vivek Ramaswamy, Dinesh D'Souza and other prominent Conservative Indian Americans are now actively being targeted by the same bigoted people who voted for Trump.

    Remember, if you aren't white, male and a specific type of christian, you are considered "the other" and will be expelled in their world. MTG is starting to find this out quickly as they are also targeting her outright.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ra...da3652ec&ei=12

    My favorite is this from Dinesh:



    Sorry Dinesh, they literally talked like this. You just never went to any area where they were open about it. The far south has had no issue basically saying that you are lesser than them. And Dinesh, you want to know who legitimized it? The person you voted for and supported. Trump. He literally put a white nationalist in charge of all immigration policy. A one Mr. Stephen Miller. He put a Christian Nationalist as his VP. He also put another Christian Nationalist as someone who is in charge of multiple government agencies dealing with firing of government workers. A one Mr. Russell Vaught.
    oh no if it isn't all the dishonest bigots who thought "we're one of the good ones, they'll accept us" getting their comeuppance

    honestly i love this for them

    fuck all these people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Is this the time to send "Oh, anyways" or "Thoughtless prayers".

    When a political group cannibalizes itself it's so easy to make a social faux pas.
    "Fuck you, Nazi."

    That's the only thing I have to say to anyone who is suddenly on the outs with Nazis after all those years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomcookie View Post
    "Fuck you, Nazi."

    That's the only thing I have to say to anyone who is suddenly on the outs with Nazis after all those years.
    Not me.

    I say the same thing to them that I always would.

    "You voted for this. You deal with it."

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