Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[PenguinChan]

Got a conservative friend who voted clearly for one side but doesn’t like admitting to it because of all the backlash and terrible things they’ve been doing under Trump. This was pretty clear when they were super excited for the H-1b visa cancellation and restrictions and punishments.

Only for them to get upset when that was all performative (shocker) and Trump actually LOVES these visas and the replacement of our “underskilled” workers like this friend of mine. I normally would have sympathy for my friend, but. They most likely still won’t be replaced, but if they are?

We love this for them.

[Shadowferal]

‘I’m Sorry’: Marjorie Taylor Greene Apologizes When Confronted By CNN’s Dana Bash About Political Rhetoric

I..can't even..

[fwc577]

Sorry Dinesh, they literally talked like this. You just never went to any area where they were open about it. The far south has had no issue basically saying that you are lesser than them. And Dinesh, you want to know who legitimized it? The person you voted for and supported. Trump. He literally put a white nationalist in charge of all immigration policy. A one Mr. Stephen Miller. He put a Christian Nationalist as his VP. He also put another Christian Nationalist as someone who is in charge of multiple government agencies dealing with firing of government workers. A one Mr. Russell Vaught.

One of my old bosses is Trump-loving, Tesla-owning MAGA. He's an upper-caste Indian. Always felt bad for him knowing that he has no clue and understanding that among the people who he identifies with politically see him as second-class and probably want him actively deported back to India.

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‘I’m Sorry’: Marjorie Taylor Greene Apologizes When Confronted By CNN’s Dana Bash About Political Rhetoric

I..can't even..

I hate the "Ever since Charlie Kirk..." bit she through out there. Bitch, you weren't doing anything to reverse or tone-down the rhetoric. You stood there silently watching it go on.

I'd have more respect for her if she'd told people to stop with the rhetoric before it was directed at her.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Got a conservative friend who voted clearly for one side but doesn’t like admitting to it because of all the backlash and terrible things they’ve been doing under Trump. This was pretty clear when they were super excited for the H-1b visa cancellation and restrictions and punishments.

Only for them to get upset when that was all performative (shocker) and Trump actually LOVES these visas and the replacement of our “underskilled” workers like this friend of mine. I normally would have sympathy for my friend, but. They most likely still won’t be replaced, but if they are?

We love this for them.

This is going to be Bush Jr all over again. The left has been telling the idiots that Trump was scamming them. They screamed "NO HE'S SAVING AMERICA" and whenever all of the war crimes and just general crimes against humanity are revealed they're all going to pretend they weren't cheering on the awful things the Trump admin was doing... even though a lot of them will have receipts of them cheering it on.

[DarkTZeratul]

One of my old bosses is Trump-loving, Tesla-owning MAGA. He's an upper-caste Indian. Always felt bad for him knowing that he has no clue and understanding that among the people who he identifies with politically see him as second-class and probably want him actively deported back to India.

My friend is a Vietnamese immigrant. His parents are conservative and voted for Trump, and so did a lot of their friends, and they're positively shocked that he's deporting a many of people they know who aren't citizens because they were convinced he was only going after the criminals.

[Captain N]

My friend is a Vietnamese immigrant. His parents are conservative and voted for Trump, and so did a lot of their friends, and they're positively shocked that he's deporting a many of people they know who aren't citizens because they were convinced he was only going after the criminals.

Are they aware that Trump and the Cult think anyone in this country who isn't white are seen as a criminals? Also what is it called when you believe folks are criminals just because they aren't white? Starts with an R I think....

[Dontrike]

We have three claims from three insane right wing folks, but perhaps one is on the right track.

First, Vance says Trump has superpowers. In this case it's his ability to "read people." The bold bits are the funniest.

Vice President JD Vance made a bizarre claim that President Donald Trump has a supernatural ability to read people during an appearance on Sean Hannity's show on Thursday.

During the segment, which aired Thursday night, the Fox News anchor asks the vice president about lessons he had learned from the commander-in-chief. "I think some of this is just who he is and his natural instincts is he has better instincts about human beings than anybody that I've ever met," lauded Vance.

"And again, the president of the United States, you think about this, you can't read every briefing and every detail about every single topic," added Vance. "A hundred different things are coming into the Oval Office every hour, right?"

Vance goes on to state that one of the most important things for President Trump is that he has to "be able to trust the people around you to delegate and to execute." He added, "But to have that trust for people, you've got to have very, very good instincts."

According to Vance, President Trump "has an amazing ability to know when somebody's trying to get something over on him." He went on, "When somebody's actually thinking about things in the best interest of the country, it's almost a supernatural ability to read human beings."

The vice president told Hannity that he has attempted "to learn as much as I can about it." Vance stated, "And again, some of that is just his innate ability."

"Some of that is something that I think that you can pick up, and I've tried to pick that up as much as I can," concluded Vance. Several users were quick to admonish the vice president's words.

Marjorie "Grass turns brown" Green says Israel is the one keeping Trump from releasing the files.

Georgia Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene explained her growing feud with Donald Trump on Sunday while questioning whether the president was remaining true to his MAGA brand and suggested that a foreign government could be involved in covering up the Jeffrey Epstein story.

She was on CNN’s State of the Union Sunday morning as a growing divide within the MAGA base threatens to split apart Trump’s coalition in the first meaningful way since the January 6 attack.

On CNN, Greene told host Dana Bash that Trump’s embrace of a foreign policy-focused agenda at the expense of centering domestic issues like rising inflation and cost-of-living price hikes amounted to an abandonment of the “America First” agenda he ran and won on.

"What the American people voted for with MAGA was to put the American people first,” said Greene. “Stop sending foreign aid, and stop being involved in foreign wars... they very much deserve to be put first. Cost of living is far too high. Health insurance is completely out of control, and that’s – those are two issues I’ve been very vocal on for months and months now, long before Republicans were shocked when those big losses came on this past Tuesday’s election.”

Bash responded: "Sounds like you are saying that he is not representing the MAGA movement that he started?"

"Promoting H-1B visas to replace American jobs, bringing in 600,000 Chinese students to replace American students’ opportunities in American colleges and universities; those are not America first positions,” said Greene. “Continuing to, really, travel all over the world doesn’t help Americans back at home.”

She added that she wanted to see “nothing but a constant focus in the White House on a domestic agenda”.

The congresswoman also took questions about the administration’s ongoing refusal to release the Jeffrey Epstein investigation files, now a scandal that has enveloped the president and led to new insinuations of his involvement in Epstein’s child sex trafficking ring after the publication this week of new emails sent to and from Jeffrey Epstein, released by a congressional committee investigating the government’s handling of the case. Trump has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing.

In those emails, Trump tellingly explained to Fire and Fury author Michael Wolff that Trump “knew about the girls”. The White House and Trump have denied that the president had any knowledge of Epstein’s illegal activities when they were friends.

On Sunday, Greene explained to CNN that she believed it was possible that a foreign government was putting pressure on the Trump administration to cover up further releases of information pertaining to Epstein’s crimes. Referencing reports in Drop Site News, Greene suggested that Epstein’s extensive communications with former Israeli defense minister Ehud Barak could suggest that Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset.

"I think the right question to ask is, ‘was Jeffrey Epstein working for Israel?’" Greene told Bash.

Pressed by CNN to say whether she believed that it was Israel directly pressuring Trump on the matter of Epstein, Greene backed off.

“No,” she responded.

“I simply just asked, out loud, ‘is there a foreign government’ — it could be any foreign government — but is a foreign government pushing to cover this up?” Greene said.

Bash shot back that it was “pretty obvious” Greene’s suspicions fell on Israel, given her mention of AIPAC in a tweet about the story.

“I’m questioning that government in particular, and I’m questioning any other foreign government [that could be involved],” said Greene.

The president has been consumed by controversy over the Epstein issue since early last week, when a government shutdown ended, the House of Representatives returned to work, and the chamber’s members resumed their push for the files.

And the craziest; Jon Voight asks Trump to "Terminate" Mamdani. Why someone that lives in California is worried about New York this much is a question; besides the racism of course.

Jon Voight has called upon President Trump to “terminate” New York City’s mayoral election of Zohran Mamdani. The 86-year-old Oscar-winner, who was appointed the newly invented title of special ambassador to Hollywood by Trump in the first days of his second term, elected to go public with his plea to the president, posting a two-minute speech on social media with an American flag in the background.

“We the people have put our trust in the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump. He, and only he, can stop this horror, as this mayor, Mamdani, will try to destroy New York’s wealth and turn it into a socialist crap city,” Voight said in the video. “Let this be a warning to the people and may God bless.”

Voight, whose primary residence is in Beverly Hills, Calif., centered his speech on Islamophobic rhetoric, claiming that New York would “turn into a virtual refugee shelter for the radical Muslim ideology” and that the days after Mamdani’s election have been “the most dangerous time for our citizens.” He also erroneously deemed the 34-year-old Mamdani a “communist” — a characterization that the mayor-elect has refuted, describing himself as a “democratic socialist.”

Notably, the office of the president does not have legal authority to directly remove a New York City mayor from office.

“This mayor will destroy this city. We are obligated to demand our rights for our private sanctuary, our businesses, our property that we all have worked so hard for. And this 35-year-old mayor has no right dictating the rules of socialism for a city built on our highest principles with brick and stone by hard-working Americans,” Voight continued. “This must be stopped and his mayoralty should be terminated immediately. You — the people of the greatest city, New York — are in danger of losing your city to this communist fool.”

Mamdani won the mayoral election in New York with a majority of the vote, beating former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who ran as an Independent after first losing to Mamdani in the Democratic primary. Mamdani will take office on Jan. 1.

[Breccia]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., once one of President Trump's strongest supporters in Congress, called his foreign policies "not America first positions" and said his recent attacks against her can "put my life in danger." Greene and Trump have traded barbs in last few days over the future of the Make America Great Again movement, raising new questions about the president's firm grip on the Republican Party.

Just going to say it again:

aid his recent attacks against her can "put my life in danger."

Again.

"put my life in danger."

Aww. Where were you Jan 6th? Oh, right. She was cheering on the crowd, not inside the building.

[gondrin]

So, Trump is doing the normal Trumpian flop on something when it basically will never go his way by now stating that he is for releasing the files.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...e67202ba&ei=18

President Donald Trump in a Truth Social message posted Sunday evening told House Republicans they “should” vote to release the Epstein files, stressing that “we have nothing to hide.”

The president has variously called the controversy surrounding the Epstein files a “Democrat hoax” while also ordering U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi to investigate high-profile Democrats, including former President Bill Clinton and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers.

He also heavily criticized House Republicans who announced their intent to vote for the release of all files as “very bad, or stupid,” but on Sunday appeared to change his tune when he told House Republicans they “should vote to release the Epstein files, because we have nothing to hide, and it’s time to move on from this Democrat Hoax.”

Trump accused Democrats of focusing on the Epstein files “in order to deflect from the Great Success of the Republican Party,” including “our recent Victory on the Democrat ‘Shutdown.'”

He also said “the House Oversight Committee can have whatever they are legally entitled to, I DON’T CARE! All I do care about is that Republicans get BACK ON POINT,” such as dealing with the affordability, inflation, prices, tax cuts, and other economic issues.

“Some “members” of the Republican Party are being “used,” and we can’t let that happen. Let’s start talking about the Republican Party’s Record Setting Achievements, and not fall into the Epstein “TRAP,” which is actually a curse on the Democrats, not us. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” the president wrote.

He also has decided to now be for affordability instead of stating that it was a "Democrat HOAX!!!"

[s_bushido]

Word going around is that the sham of an investigation he ordered Bondi to initiate will be the excuse for being legally unable to release anything. Since it would be "part of an ongoing investigation." So someone told him it was safe to stop acting like he was 100% guilty on the subject and desperately trying to hide it.

[gondrin]

Word going around is that the sham of an investigation he ordered Bondi to initiate will be the excuse for being legally unable to release anything. Since it would be "part of an ongoing investigation." So someone told him it was safe to stop acting like he was 100% guilty on the subject and desperately trying to hide it.

It wouldn't have any effect on a Congressional matter such as this as all materials would still be forced to be turned over since it doesn't have anything to do with any active lawsuit or court case.

Even in matters of national security and the like, Congress can demand classified materials to be seen.

[Edge-]

Word going around is that the sham of an investigation he ordered Bondi to initiate will be the excuse for being legally unable to release anything. Since it would be "part of an ongoing investigation." So someone told him it was safe to stop acting like he was 100% guilty on the subject and desperately trying to hide it.

so does it exist or not lmao

[gondrin]

so does it exist or not lmao

It is Schrödinger's Files.

[Fugus]

It wouldn't have any effect on a Congressional matter such as this as all materials would still be forced to be turned over since it doesn't have anything to do with any active lawsuit or court case.

Even in matters of national security and the like, Congress can demand classified materials to be seen.

Could see them try and start up a sham case against someone to make that claim but that then opens them up to discovery. Unless he does it towards an ally and slow rolls it just to drop it afterwards.

Or watch him try and argue to SCOTUS that he should be allowed to retain it.

Or watch them try and release a sliver of it and only stuff they have pre-vetted to keep from making him look bad and then try and fight that over and over again.

I really hope that these people face actual consequences for all this. If Trump dies or gets off and this is all swept under the rug and ignored, it invites this all over again because there are no consequences if you make it this far.

[Edge-]

"what did you know, and when did you know it?"

is suddenly coming to mind, again.

weird that it's for Republicans, again. (not really but whatever)

[Dontrike]

Trump and the White House sure seem to be in a rush to say Trump is straight, and that he loves Melania. Gee golly, I wonder why that is. Could it be he sucked a president off or perhaps a horse? I wonder how long it took to find a picture of Melania smiling while in his presence.

[Rasulis]

And the craziest; Jon Voight asks Trump to "Terminate" Mamdani.[/URL] Why someone that lives in California is worried about New York this much is a question; besides the racism of course.

It appears that a lot of people disagree with Jon Voight. The idea that people are leaving New York because of Mamdani is stupid.

Manhattan Office Rents Are Rising: A Tenant’s Guide to the Market

[Very Tired]

So couldn't we just ask the women who were take advantage of by Epstein who exactly were the ones doing it? Seems like that should be something to at least get on the record, even if it doesn't lead to anything.

[gondrin]

So couldn't we just ask the women who were take advantage of by Epstein who exactly were the ones doing it? Seems like that should be something to at least get on the record, even if it doesn't lead to anything.

I mean, one is now very publicly dead.

The others might just be afraid of coming forward. Seeing as, you know, one of the people being accused of raping those girls is the current sitting president who has no qualms on using violence against others.

[Very Tired]

I mean, one is now very publicly dead.

The others might just be afraid of coming forward. Seeing as, you know, one of the people being accused of raping those girls is the current sitting president who has no qualms on using violence against others.

A few of them seem pretty vocal about the whole issue. https://old.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/com...eleased_a_psa/

I wouldn't exactly call that keeping their nose down behavior.