Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[gondrin]

FIFA Awards Trump a Participation Trophy - Greg Gutfeld runs to his defense faster than Cult Members in a Facebook Comment section.

Best part of the whole exchange is that Turner correctly pointed out that it was a Trophy made specifically for Trump. Jesse Waters(another Trump sycophant) correctly points out that FIFA did this to kiss Trump's ass.

Gutfeld takes it at hating on Trump. Not actually looking at it objectively like others did and pretty much come to the conclusion that it was a literal participation trophies(which him and/or Fox has complained about others getting). Nope, they must hate Trump.

Someone should have asked Gutfeld why he supports DEI because since Trump isn't capable or deserving of getting a Nobel Peace Prize that someone else gives him a lesser one.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Does anyone want to explain to him how VPNs work?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

The twitter location information thing has a mark beside it if a VPN is being used to display that location. I imagine the week that they had the location tracking information down for governmental agencies was so they could write the code to make the VPN mark not appear next to governmental agencies.

Can you guys stop making posts when you think you have a smart remark and it's actually the opposite?

It's like the person who tried to dunk on me thinking I was wrong about it showing Tel Aviv Israel when in reality you can adjust the level of specificity of your location. You should probably learn about things before commenting on them.

[PhaelixWW]

The twitter location information thing...

Except I was talking about google trends, which bases its "location" on a combination of IP (which can be masked by VPN), and google account location, which is notably erratic and can easily be manipulated.

Can you guys stop making posts when you think you have a smart remark and it's actually the opposite?

Take your own advice.

Pretending to be the smartest person in the room while spouting conspiracy theory drivel is a real decision, to be sure.

[Dontrike]

So along with Trump being given the Participation Peace Prize from FIFA he of course said something stupid, cause of course he did. Unfortunately, it's a Fox News link.

President Donald Trump suggested the American sport of football should have a different name so that soccer, which is called football in nearly every other country, can assume the name.

Trump made his comments during the World Cup draw in Washington, D.C., Friday while discussing soccer's growth in the U.S.

"When you look at what has happened to football in the United States, again soccer in the United States, we seem to never call it that because we have a little bit of a conflict with another thing that's called football. But when you think about it, shouldn't it really be called, I mean this is football, there's no question about it. We need to come up with another name for the NFL stuff," Trump said.

"It really doesn't make sense when you think about it."

Trump was also awarded the first FIFA Peace Prize at the draw Friday.

FIFA President Gianni Infantino presented Trump with the award, which included a trophy of golden hands holding a soccer ball. He was also awarded a medal that he put on almost immediately.

"The FIFA Peace Prize is presented annually on behalf of the billions of football-loving people from around the world to a distinguished individual who exemplifies an unwavering commitment to advancing peace and unity throughout the world through their notable leadership and action," a certificate awarded to Trump states.

The National Park Service decided to cut the free fare of MLK Day, but that bit of stupid isn't even the tip. The replaced it with Trump's birthday and it comes with its own cute little nickname. Look, I understand everyone has to do something to keep their agency going, but this goes from brown nosing to straight nard gargling.

In 2026, Americans will get free admission to national parks on President Donald Trump's birthday but no longer on Juneteenth and Martin Luther King Jr. Day, according to the National Park Service website.

Previously, the National Park Service included these two federal holidays among its free-entry days for its 116 parks.

Federally recognized in 2021 under the Biden Administration, Juneteenth has been celebrated for more than a century and a half. The day commemorates the final end of slavery in Confederate states just after the end of the Civil War.

The NPS also added more free-admission days for next year – calling them "patriotic fee-free days" – such as Trump's birthday on June 14, July 4th weekend and the 110th Birthday of NPS.

The Department of the Interior did not immediately respond to USA TODAY's request for comment.

The move is one of several for NPS under the executive order designed to "allow more Americans to visit national parks" and also cut back on DEI policies. Recently, NPS announced an "America-first" initiative that would charge an additional $100 per person onto foreign tourists without an annual pass to enter the 11 most-visited national parks starting Jan. 1.

Starting next year, the free days will only apply to U.S. citizens and residents, according to the NPS website.

"These policies ensure that U.S. taxpayers, who already support the National Park System, continue to enjoy affordable access, while international visitors contribute their fair share to maintaining and improving our parks for future generations," Interior Secretary Doug Burgum said in a news release.

Which days are national parks free in 2026?

President’s Day: Feb. 16
Memorial Day: May 31
Flag Day/President Donald Trump’s birthday: June 14
Independence Day weekend: July 3–5
110th Birthday of the National Park Service: Aug. 25
Constitution Day: Sept. 17
Theodore Roosevelt’s birthday: Oct. 27
Veterans Day: Nov. 11

[Cthulhu 2020]

But speaking of VPNs, I'd suggest everyone in the USA get one if you're trying to look up political information. Search results from within the US are highly unreliable and overflowing with misinformation as Google and numerous other big tech do their best to assist Trump's presidency.

Meanwhile the only reliable sources of information exist outside of the US's bubble. But people aren't ready for that conversation until they realize WaPo WSJ and Snopes are themselves compromised.

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Except I was talking about google trends, which bases its "location" on a combination of IP (which can be masked by VPN), and google account location, which is notably erratic and can easily be manipulated.

So what exactly are you saying?

Some google search results DAYS BEFORE THE SHOOTING EVER OCCURRED for both the shooter and the victim appeared in both DC and Israel. What does a VPN have to do with that? Did someone psychic knew the shooting would happen before hand and use a VPN to... Man if you're gonna make shit up at least make sure there's no gaping holes.

Take your own advice.

Pretending to be the smartest person in the room while spouting conspiracy theory drivel is a real decision, to be sure.

I relayed exactly what I and thousands of other people saw with our own two eyes, stripped off the internet and now it's a "conspiracy theory" because WSJ won't tell you it's true I mean heck, here's NBC's reporting on it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...nts-rcna245487

Nikita Bier is a pathological liar and an Elon Musk yes-man so the things he says are as good as dirt.

But remind me again, who was the one who spoke so confidently about Twitter not being able to show Tel Aviv and was... wrong?

And really, even if I was wrong about your VPN comment being about the DHS Israel thing, you were STILL wrong in not knowing how things work... well, frankly at all.

If someone googles the names of the victim and the shooter days before the attack from both Washington DC and Israel via ISP, then clearly some troll decided to use a VPN to put himself in Israel and Washington DC! And once he did that he googled the names of people he psychically knew were going to be in a shooting!

Your conspiracies are wilder than mine.

[En Sabah Nur]

here's NBC's reporting on it

NBC News did not view the account’s location before the feature went away Friday and has not confirmed the authenticity of the posts.

All they're reporting on is exactly what you've seen. Other people's screenshots and videos. Until stuff like that is confirmed authentic, its meaningless, tbh. This whole topic is a fat orange nothing anyway. I can't believe time is still being spent on it, honestly. Plenty of other much larger things to worry about.

[Deus Mortis]

Some more info on how they caught him.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/pipe-bomb-...y?id=128157568

Brian Cole Jr. also said that that he got rid of the unusual shoes that investigators were looking for, according Pirro.

"He told us that he had those sneakers and that he got rid of them after he placed the pipe bombs," Pirro told ABC News in an exclusive interview Friday.

When asked if she would go further in saying that Cole offered a full confession, Pirro would go no further, saying, "I don't want to get ahead of this, but what I can tell you is that the combination of video evidence, forensic evidence, as well as the items, the receipts and -- it makes it very clear that we can prove this case to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt."

Authorities arrested Cole, 30, on Thursday after identifying him as the suspect in the case following a yearslong investigation.

He made his first court appearance Friday and did not enter a plea.

The distinctive Nike Air Max Turf sneakers seen in CCTV images had long been a focus of investigators who were hoping they would lead to the suspect.

Pirro said that based on the evidence, it is "unmistakable" that Cole is the suspect, after having gone through 3 million pieces of data.

"In my mind, they were on the right path when it was clear that the cell phone was pinging in the exact locations where we had the video of the suspect walking along the area," Pirro said. "Everywhere he walked, his cell phone was pinging at the cell tower. So it is unmistakable that he was the guy who was walking along and placing those items," she said.

[Draco-Onis]

Best part of the whole exchange is that Turner correctly pointed out that it was a Trophy made specifically for Trump. Jesse Waters(another Trump sycophant) correctly points out that FIFA did this to kiss Trump's ass.

Gutfeld takes it at hating on Trump. Not actually looking at it objectively like others did and pretty much come to the conclusion that it was a literal participation trophies(which him and/or Fox has complained about others getting). Nope, they must hate Trump.

Someone should have asked Gutfeld why he supports DEI because since Trump isn't capable or deserving of getting a Nobel Peace Prize that someone else gives him a lesser one.

My only question is how many horrible crimes is FIFA hiding to kiss Trump's ass this bad? they aren't doing it just for fun, are they in the Epstein files? is FIFA itself running a large pedophile ring? FIFA has a very long and dirty history of bribery, money laundering, abuse etc. They have more skeletons in their closets than most cemeteries, if they are trying to suck up to Trump the mother of all horrors is hiding in there.

[Moralgy]

Anyone surprised the pipe Bomber was swept under the rug by conservatives after it was found out he was one of them through and through? Like they are on about Somalian non stop that aren't even committing crimes atm but a guy that tried a mass terror attack doesn't even get a peep.

[Breccia]

Newsweek has an article about Trump's threat to remove Biden's pardons, claiming they were done by auto-pen and therefore NULL AND VOID!!!!!ONE!!!BIGLY!!!

The consensus seems to be "no". Simply put, there are specific rules about the use of auto-pen written by the DOJ and in effect when Biden was fairly and legally elected in 2020. He followed those rules under supervision. Also, they're part of checks and balances, and a court case to remove a pardon would be undoing a check on itself.

Naturally, I hope this analysis is wrong.

"What? Why?"

Trump is clearly senile and retarded. The very second he makes it possible to remove existing pardons on the grounds of "he doesn't know what he's signing" everyone brings up pardons like the Chinese crypto guy Trump claimed he didn't know and uses those to blanket remove all of Trump's pardons - including the thousand-plus terrorists.

"But that would be challenged in court!"

Nope. Trump is issuing the challenge right now. If it's successful, it's affirmed legal prescedent, and whoever's next up can just round them all up and drag them back to prison (if they were removed, of course) and re-instate any cases against them.

"But they'd contest that!"

And it would fail. Trump's own words and actions in public would be enough probable cause, and the SCOTUS ruling on the matter would be the final word on the matter. Oh sure, they could say "but it's different when Trump was senile and retarded!" but they'd make that claim from prison while the FBI goes through their bank and phone records.

So bring it, fatty. Go ahead and take pardons off the table. I can't wait to see what happens to your family.

[btlcryct]

Newsweek has an article about Trump's threat to remove Biden's pardons, claiming they were done by auto-pen and therefore NULL AND VOID!!!!!ONE!!!BIGLY!!!

The consensus seems to be "no". Simply put, there are specific rules about the use of auto-pen written by the DOJ and in effect when Biden was fairly and legally elected in 2020. He followed those rules under supervision. Also, they're part of checks and balances, and a court case to remove a pardon would be undoing a check on itself.

Naturally, I hope this analysis is wrong.

"What? Why?"

Trump is clearly senile and retarded. The very second he makes it possible to remove existing pardons on the grounds of "he doesn't know what he's signing" everyone brings up pardons like the Chinese crypto guy Trump claimed he didn't know and uses those to blanket remove all of Trump's pardons - including the thousand-plus terrorists.

"But that would be challenged in court!"

Nope. Trump is issuing the challenge right now. If it's successful, it's affirmed legal prescedent, and whoever's next up can just round them all up and drag them back to prison (if they were removed, of course) and re-instate any cases against them.

"But they'd contest that!"

And it would fail. Trump's own words and actions in public would be enough probable cause, and the SCOTUS ruling on the matter would be the final word on the matter. Oh sure, they could say "but it's different when Trump was senile and retarded!" but they'd make that claim from prison while the FBI goes through their bank and phone records.

So bring it, fatty. Go ahead and take pardons off the table. I can't wait to see what happens to your family.

Thing is, I wouldn't bet on that. They'd probably write it so it only applies to Trump removing Biden's pardons somehow. Similar to how they want to allow him to run for a 3rd term, and claiming this new policy would only apply to Presidents who served non-consecutive terms when people said Obama could run against him then. With the current Congress and SCOTUS, I wouldn't trust anything to go the way we've seen in the past.

[Edge-]

Newsweek has an article about Trump's threat to remove Biden's pardons, claiming they were done by auto-pen and therefore NULL AND VOID!!!!!ONE!!!BIGLY!!!

The consensus seems to be "no". Simply put, there are specific rules about the use of auto-pen written by the DOJ and in effect when Biden was fairly and legally elected in 2020. He followed those rules under supervision. Also, they're part of checks and balances, and a court case to remove a pardon would be undoing a check on itself.

Naturally, I hope this analysis is wrong.

"What? Why?"

Trump is clearly senile and retarded. The very second he makes it possible to remove existing pardons on the grounds of "he doesn't know what he's signing" everyone brings up pardons like the Chinese crypto guy Trump claimed he didn't know and uses those to blanket remove all of Trump's pardons - including the thousand-plus terrorists.

"But that would be challenged in court!"

Nope. Trump is issuing the challenge right now. If it's successful, it's affirmed legal prescedent, and whoever's next up can just round them all up and drag them back to prison (if they were removed, of course) and re-instate any cases against them.

"But they'd contest that!"

And it would fail. Trump's own words and actions in public would be enough probable cause, and the SCOTUS ruling on the matter would be the final word on the matter. Oh sure, they could say "but it's different when Trump was senile and retarded!" but they'd make that claim from prison while the FBI goes through their bank and phone records.

So bring it, fatty. Go ahead and take pardons off the table. I can't wait to see what happens to your family.

donald and republicans are the party of cultish anarchy and chaos, it's fucking insane

[Gorsameth]

My only question is how many horrible crimes is FIFA hiding to kiss Trump's ass this bad? they aren't doing it just for fun, are they in the Epstein files? is FIFA itself running a large pedophile ring? FIFA has a very long and dirty history of bribery, money laundering, abuse etc. They have more skeletons in their closets than most cemeteries, if they are trying to suck up to Trump the mother of all horrors is hiding in there.

Trump has been talking about wanting to move the event and all sorts of crazy stuff.

Making a cheap fake award to get him to shut up and let them earn their millions off of the event is just a good business decision.
No need for a conspiracy.

[Mayhem]

My only question is how many horrible crimes is FIFA hiding to kiss Trump's ass this bad? they aren't doing it just for fun, are they in the Epstein files? is FIFA itself running a large pedophile ring? FIFA has a very long and dirty history of bribery, money laundering, abuse etc. They have more skeletons in their closets than most cemeteries, if they are trying to suck up to Trump the mother of all horrors is hiding in there.

It's just money. FIFA and the region need the World Cup to go through because everything is already sold. So to keep being on Trump's good side until everything is over is probably a smart move. It makes Infantino look infantino, which is a bonus. I also hope that something comes off of this when shit will hit the unavoidable fan, which is thousands of foreigners meeting the ICEstapo. So maybe rule changes, or something like hosts can't also be fascists.

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Just out of curiosity anyone else heard about Próspera and how tight the outcome in the current elections in Honduras might be the reason why Trump pardoned the ex-president to interfere in the election?

[Twdft]

So maybe rule changes, or something like hosts can't also be fascists.

Infantino doesn't care. At all. He would argue holding the world cup on Cardassia Prime be a beacon of light to work towards peace and understanding in the Alpha Quadrant.

[Edge-]

pretty crazy how republicans are celebrating a participation trophy after years of decrying their existence, innit?

or just depressingly predictable and boring?

[PhaelixWW]

So what exactly are you saying?

Some google search results DAYS BEFORE THE SHOOTING EVER OCCURRED for both the shooter and the victim appeared in both DC and Israel. What does a VPN have to do with that? Did someone psychic knew the shooting would happen before hand and use a VPN to... Man if you're gonna make shit up at least make sure there's no gaping holes.

Or, you know, the obvious answer that the google trends data is just simply wrong. Far more believable than your conspiracy theory bullshit coverup scenario.

I mean, it's not like google ever puts the wrong date on things...

But remind me again, who was the one who spoke so confidently about Twitter not being able to show Tel Aviv and was... wrong?

Uh... not I.

Are you so addled you can't remember who's arguing which point?

And really, even if I was wrong about your VPN comment being about the DHS Israel thing, you were STILL wrong in not knowing how things work... well, frankly at all.

Your conspiracies are wilder than mine.

Wow. Now you're straw-manning conspiracies for other people.

Haha. No.

There are quite a few far more believable scenarios than any of this shit that your brain seems to want to come up with.

[Edge-]

Or, you know, the obvious answer that the google trends data is just simply wrong. Far more believable than your conspiracy theory bullshit coverup scenario.

I mean, it's not like google ever puts the wrong date on things...

lmao this is pretty regular stuff for search indexing and seo baiting and whatnot, especially for syndicated pages (MSN)

[Dontrike]

Trump will deny visas to fact checkers because of course he thinks fact checking is censorship.

The State Department is instructing its staff to reject visa applications from people who worked on fact-checking, content moderation or other activities the Trump administration considers "censorship" of Americans' speech.

The directive, sent in an internal memo on Tuesday, is focused on applicants for H-1B visas for highly skilled workers, which are frequently used by tech companies, among other sectors. The memo was first reported by Reuters; NPR also obtained a copy.

"If you uncover evidence an applicant was responsible for, or complicit in, censorship or attempted censorship of protected expression in the United States, you should pursue a finding that the applicant is ineligible" for a visa, the memo says. It refers to a policy announced by Secretary of State Marco Rubio in May restricting visas from being issued to "foreign officials and persons who are complicit in censoring Americans."

The Trump administration has been highly critical of tech companies' efforts to police what people are allowed to post on their platforms and of the broader field of trust and safety, the tech industry's term for teams that focus on preventing abuse, fraud, illegal content, and other harmful behavior online.

President Trump was banned from multiple social media platforms in the aftermath of his supporters' attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. While those bans have since been lifted, the president and members of his administration frequently cite that experience as evidence for their claims that tech companies unfairly target conservatives — even as many tech leaders have eased their policies in the face of that backlash.

Tuesday's memo calls out H-1B visa applicants in particular "as many work in or have worked in the tech sector, including in social media or financial services companies involved in the suppression of protected expression."

It directs consular officers to "thoroughly explore" the work histories of applicants, both new and returning, by reviewing their resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and appearances in media articles for activities including combatting misinformation, disinformation or false narratives, fact-checking, content moderation, compliance, and trust and safety.

"I'm alarmed that trust and safety work is being conflated with 'censorship'," said Alice Goguen Hunsberger, who has worked in trust and safety at tech companies including OpenAI and Grindr.

"Trust and safety is a broad practice which includes critical and life-saving work to protect children and stop CSAM [child sexual abuse material], as well as preventing fraud, scams, and sextortion. T&S workers are focused on making the internet a safer and better place, not censoring just for the sake of it," she said. "Bad actors that target Americans come from all over the world and it's so important to have people who understand different languages and cultures on trust and safety teams — having global workers at tech companies in [trust and safety] absolutely keeps Americans safer."

In a statement, a State Department spokesperson who declined to give their name said the department does not comment on "allegedly leaked documents," but added: "the Administration has made clear that it defends Americans' freedom of expression against foreigners who wish to censor them. We do not support aliens coming to the United States to work as censors muzzling Americans."

The statement continued: "In the past, the President himself was the victim of this kind of abuse when social media companies locked his accounts. He does not want other Americans to suffer this way. Allowing foreigners to lead this type of censorship would both insult and injure the American people."

First Amendment experts criticized the memo's guidance as itself a potential violation of free speech rights.

"People who study misinformation and work on content-moderation teams aren't engaged in 'censorship'— they're engaged in activities that the First Amendment was designed to protect. This policy is incoherent and unconstitutional," said Carrie DeCell, senior staff attorney and legislative advisor at the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University, in a statement.

Even as the administration has targeted those it claims are engaged in censoring Americans, it has also tightened its own scrutiny of visa applicants' online speech.

On Wednesday, the State Department announced it would require H-1B visa applicants and their dependents to set their social media profiles to "public" so they can be reviewed by U.S. officials.

[Edge-]

Trump will deny visas to fact checkers because of course he thinks fact checking is censorship.

every day they find new ways to show how they're the smallest, pettiest, worst people imaginable lmao