Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Milchshake]

Awww kids, remember 2021, when Right Wing Loons were the first guys to coin the term "Genocide Joe". Because Biden tried to mandate vaccines social distancing protocols for federal employees.
So weird how others coopted that term.

Grats to both factions for all taht winning.



Looks like the'res still time for some US states to join Alberta and Ontario in the "Club of Shame, Losing their Measles Elimination status in 20-25 Challange".

[Edge-]

It's unnecessary to auto-register your citizens at birth/when becoming citizens so they are eligible to vote? Well, I disagree.

Because children cannot vote. Voting eligibility begins at 18. Citizenship, again, is handled by the federal government. Voter registration is handled by the states, who administer votes. This is being explained again, and I'm unsure why you're still confused? It's not the most seemless system but, largely, it works. Except in cases where Republicans are determined to ratfuck it in which case no system would be able to stand up to determined ratfuckery

That glitch being able to happen is because the DMV can register people without providing proof of citizenship. I'm actually mind-boggled, in 2025.

It's. A. Glitch. That was identified and resolved. The DMV handles voter registrations as that's where most people go to get their ID's, it's not the only place but it's one of the primary places.

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Awww kids, remember 2021, when Right Wing Loons were the first guys to coin the term "Genocide Joe". Because Biden tried to mandate vaccines social distancing protocols for federal employees.
So weird how others coopted that term.

Grats to both factions for all taht winning.



Looks like the'res still time for some US states to join Alberta and Ontario in the "Club of Shame, Losing their Measles Elimination status in 20-25 Challange".

what's really great about this?

measles fucks with your bodies ability to remember and remake antibodies for diseases and infections you've encountered before, your body forgets

which is a bit of a longer term problem for all those kiddos whose dumbass, retarded antivaxx parents are setting them up for a far riskier adult life that we may have to financially supplement because they need government assistance to help cover all their medical treatments

we're always forced to endure republicans endless, retarded selfishness

[Rasulis]

While my government has been a steaming pile of crap for the last decade and a half, there's something they got right: I absolutely need not worry about income tax. Employers automatically deduct the percentage and have to do the filing as well if I ask them to. But there's no need, because the tax office also does the filing. I only need to bother if I want some deduction and even then only once if it applies to multiple years (such as for raising children, but then that's something the census office tells the tax office anyway).

And this is from the underperforming, absolute butthole of the EU.

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Right up there with the IOC.

Technically, there should be very little need for TurboTax anymore in the US. According to IRS, in 2018, 87.3% of returns claimed standard deductions. You don't need TurboTax to do that. If you do, standard deduction filing is free on TurboTax. IRS standard deduction has gone up a lot since then. Up to around $29,200 for married couples for 2024. Considering the median household income is $83,730 there is very little need for TurboTax. For people that need to file itemized deductions, they are better off with a tax/financial advisor. Start early so they can implement any tax saving measures recommended by their advisor.

[Milchshake]

"Clayface" Noem had a very bad day in congress. Looks incredibly weak.

Lying before congress, I wonder if the NYT Style Guide is allowed to call this what it is, Perjury.

Magaziner: How many US military veterans have you deported?
Noem: We have not deported military veterans.
Magaziner: We are joined on zoom by a gentleman who is an army combat veteran who was shot twice while serving our country. You deported him to Korea.


Noem afraid of any more question, goes full coward and runs away. I believe that running away during testimony is also called. Contempt of Congress.
Noem leaves the hearing and is heckled as she departs the room





Cant wait for the press pool to interview Speaker Johnson, where he gets to play dumb again, and no follow up questions.

We're barely a year in and its already a lame duck administration and congress.

[Edge-]

"Clayface" Noem had a very bad day in congress. Looks incredibly weak.

Lying before congress, I wonder if the NYT Style Guide is allowed to call this what it is, Perjury.

Magaziner: How many US military veterans have you deported?
Noem: We have not deported military veterans.
Magaziner: We are joined on zoom by a gentleman who is an army combat veteran who was shot twice while serving our country. You deported him to Korea.


Noem afraid of any more question, goes full coward and runs away. I believe that running away during testimony is also called. Contempt of Congress.
Noem leaves the hearing and is heckled as she departs the room





Cant wait for the press pool to interview Speaker Johnson, where he gets to play dumb again, and no follow up questions.

We're barely a year in and its already a lame duck administration and congress.

man fuck this stupid, vile puppy murdering cunt

i hope all the plastic surgery that she's had done gets infected and scars her for life

really though, i cannot wish bad enough things upon the truly evil people in this administration

republicans are genuinely not good people. period.

[Mayhem]

Because children cannot vote. Voting eligibility begins at 18. Citizenship, again, is handled by the federal government. Voter registration is handled by the states, who administer votes. This is being explained again, and I'm unsure why you're still confused? It's not the most seemless system but, largely, it works. Except in cases where Republicans are determined to ratfuck it in which case no system would be able to stand up to determined ratfuckery

Yeah, but children usually become adults so...

I'm still confused because that system is the polar opposite of convenient and foolproof. And I'm baffled that it looks like everyone seems to be fine with a system that makes it easier for asshats to fuck with people's right to vote.

[Edge-]

Yeah, but children usually become adults so...

Generally. But voting is not compulsory, and remains up to the individual. I'm generally in favor of "automatically register folks when they're 18", but it's hardly a significant issue.

I'm still confused because that system is the polar opposite of convenient and foolproof. And I'm baffled that it looks like everyone seems to be fine with a system that makes it easier for asshats to fuck with people's right to vote.

I mean, even if you registered everyone automatically Republican states would still find ways to discourage voting, especially from Democrats - see limited polling locations, laws against general mail-in voting without excuse, shortened windows for early voting, ID requirements with limited office hours impacting primarily folks without drivers licenses (lower income folks who don't have cars to drive), etc. etc. etc. - these are things Republicans already do legislatively.

States handling their own voting, in many ways, also provides many layers of security (different processes/procedures or vendors) and provides protections against federal-level fuckery like from this administration (at least for democratic states not inclined to unhinge their jaws for donald, not that it's remotely necessary), even if the current scotus is determined to do their level-best to assist republicans in their efforts to disenfranchise democratic voters in their states.

[Rasulis]

They voted.

Senate rejects Obamacare credit renewal, teeing up premium spike

[Mayhem]

Generally. But voting is not compulsory, and remains up to the individual. I'm generally in favor of "automatically register folks when they're 18", but it's hardly a significant issue.

Yeah, it's probably just another issue. Does the registration by the DMV somehow ignore age as Americans can get a drivers license before voting age?

I mean, even if you registered everyone automatically Republican states would still find ways to discourage voting, especially from Democrats - see limited polling locations, laws against general mail-in voting without excuse, shortened windows for early voting, ID requirements with limited office hours impacting primarily folks without drivers licenses (lower income folks who don't have cars to drive), etc. etc. etc. - these are things Republicans already do legislatively.

States handling their own voting, in many ways, also provides many layers of security (different processes/procedures or vendors) and provides protections against federal-level fuckery like from this administration (at least for democratic states not inclined to unhinge their jaws for donald, not that it's remotely necessary), even if the current scotus is determined to do their level-best to assist republicans in their efforts to disenfranchise democratic voters in their states.

Funny enough, our states also handle voting hours differently. So while in some states the time to cast your vote is between 7am and 5pm, some states close booths as early as 2pm. Though voting usually is on a Sunday, and only very few people have to work on Sundays.

I'm going to keep an eye out on how the next elections are run in the US, going to be interesting to see how much fuckery republicans manage to come up with.

[Edge-]

Yeah, it's probably just another issue. Does the registration by the DMV somehow ignore age as Americans can get a drivers license before voting age?

You get pre-registered to vote if you do that (at least in a state like California) - once you turn 18 you don't have to do anything to vote, you're all registered and set. You can try voting before then I guess, since you're registered, but you will not be mailed a ballot by the state and you would not be on the active voter roll yet so you would, at best, only receive a provisional ballot if you went to vote in-person (those are not counted until eligibility is confirmed).

Though I very much expect Republican states to be up to their usual fuckery (mostly described in my post), and sadly expect to see the Bondi DoJ get in on this action.

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https://www.npr.org/2025/12/11/nx-s1...ed-release-ice

Calling his months-long detention "troubling," Maryland Federal Judge Paula Xinis on Thursday granted Kilmar Abrego Garcia's request to be released from ICE custody.

The native of El Salvador and resident of Maryland has become a symbol of the Trump administration's policy of mass deportations after he was wrongfully sent to a prison in El Salvador in the spring due to an "administrative error," contrary to a judge's order. The government later returned him to the U.S. but immediately charged him in Tennessee in a separate criminal case with smuggling undocumented immigrants. He denies those charges.

"troubling"...wut

Judge Xinis today wrote that the government has never produced evidence of a removal order for him.

"No such order of removal exists for Abrego Garcia," Xinis wrote. "When Abrego Garcia was first wrongly expelled to El Salvador, the Court struggled to understand the legal authority for even seizing him in the first place."

the lying administration lies lyingly

any lawyers who enabled this should have their licensed yanked by the bar, but they won't

In a statement to NPR, Department of Homeland Security's spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin blasted Judge Xinis' decision.

"This is naked judicial activism by an Obama appointed judge," McLaughlin said. "This order lacks any valid legal basis and we will continue to fight this tooth and nail in the courts."

fuck every one of these dishonest liars, deport them all to some third world shithole and let them rot

[Rasulis]

If you don't succeed, try again.

A grand jury, for a second time, declined to bring a new indictment against Letitia James, the New York attorney general who defeated President Donald Trump and his company in court, according to multiple sources.

The Justice Department presented its case against James to grand jury in Alexandria, Virginia, Thursday — a week after a different grand jury in Norfolk declined to bring charges.

[Edge-]

If you don't succeed, try again.

A grand jury, for a second time, declined to bring a new indictment against Letitia James, the New York attorney general who defeated President Donald Trump and his company in court, according to multiple sources.

The Justice Department presented its case against James to grand jury in Alexandria, Virginia, Thursday — a week after a different grand jury in Norfolk declined to bring charges.

a constant reminder that our greatest defense against these people is that they are by and large fucking incompetent

[Breccia]

If you don't succeed, try again.

"Your Honor, what if we brought these unfounded baseless charges, but also said 'pretty please' this time?"

[PenguinChan]

a constant reminder that our greatest defense against these people is that they are by and large fucking incompetent

That incompetency has a heavy cost though, millions are dead since his first administration through direct or indirect consequence of their (in)actions. Sure it's funny to remark but it's extremely depressing still.

[PACOX]

Uh, comparing it to the EU is not the best idea because we handle voting for non-citizens when there are EU elections. So we have a registry of even non-citizens who are eligible to vote in EU elections.

And to add to the confusion, EU citizens who are residents are eligible to vote in regional elections, but not state or federal elections, still they are held at the same time.

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I don't understand the difference. Is the federal government prohibited from telling state governments about who has just become a citizen? Do they have to keep it a secret from state governments for reasons?

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I do get that. What I don't get is how someone can get registered without anyone checking for citizenship. Edge explained that somehow the DMV can register people without checking citizenship, which does, but also doesn't answer my question.

The ultimate answer to your question is that anyone can register to vote. You can even register others (going to assume its fraud if you do it without their permission). That doesn't actually give someone the right to vote. You submit a form that goes to your local voters offices. The form can be filled out in a lot of places, theres no standard form because local offices are allowed variations within legal limits, local laws dictate what elections you will actual be allowed to participate in, sometimes where you can vote, how. Anyway you submit your information PID (name, birthday, address, social security number, other stuff like felon status, citizenship, party affiliation, etc). That information is entered into a clearinghouse and verified. Its not just accepted as is. The US has an extensive public record system so a lot of stuff can be credibly inferred from cross referencing information, citizenship is one via other government forms someone may have submitted in the past including their birth certificate which is state databases. The only thing easily fudge (which really isnt an issue because people move around) is ones physical s address. Federal elections don't really care about your specific address only that you're a citizen of the state you say you are. If there are discrepancies you dont get the right to vote and your local elections supervisors will require you present more information. Again just submitting the form and having it accepted gives you the right to vote. I can go around and technically register people by collecting their information with their consent and submitting it to a local elections office. Thats why someone can easily register at an DMV, DMV already has the information.

If when your voter application is approved it becomes public record, and youre sent a card. You not need the card to vote (unless local law says you do) but you must be able to present documents that match whats on your card. Example in my area when we go to physically vote we can use list of approved forms of documentation to verify ourselves such as a state issued ID, passport, other legal PID. That information is cross referenced with the state and local database, you sign a paper that says they can lock your ass up (and will) if you lie and then you vote.

in the case of mail in ballots you get a ballot specific to you through the mail. You will get flagged if you try to physical vote if you have a mail in and theres various ways resolve the conflict if you decide you want physically vote but got mailed ballot - in my state you have to physical surrender your mail in ballot then they immediately destroy with a witnessed signature. Either way mai in ballots also go through verification and you're notified if its approved, rejected, or you must provide more information.

Whether or not you voted becomes public record (what you voted on is obviously not known by anyone). Your record adds to your credibility and makes it harder to commit voter fraud using your name, it becomes harder for an election office to frivolously deny your ballot, easier for you to re-register. Theres little room for fraud and people who do try to purposefully commit fraud are caught.

Sidenote - Voting rights in the US are mostly at the state level and the federal authority over elections is relatively weak. Thats by design. But that also means individual voting rights are pretty weak and tend to favor state scrutiny regardless of voting supposed to be protected by out Constitution. What we call the right to vote in the US didn't come about until 1965 and isn't permanent. Guess which party refuses to make it a permanent part of the Constitution.

[Iphie]

They voted.

Senate rejects Obamacare credit renewal, teeing up premium spike

So...those dems flipped and got shafted? How predictable.

[Edge-]

https://www.the-independent.com/life...-b2882896.html

Jay Dee Hamel, a real person and totally not some weird lizard hybrid in human flesh, tries humor once again and complains about the 6-7 brainrot.

Where did this even come from? I don't understand it. When we were kids all of our viral trends at least had an origin story.

The oldest man shaking his fist at the clouds, and he's only in his like 40's?

The trend does have an origin story, even though its start does not explain the overwhelming widespread popularity of the numbers.

“67” comes from rapper Skrilla’s song “Doot Doot (6 7),” which refers to a six-foot-seven-inches tall basketball player. The term skyrocketed to internet fame through viral videos and memes featuring NBA player LaMelo Ball.

Jay Dee Hamel, more out of touch than the writers at The Independent.

Yeah, 6-7 is brainrot, 100%. We all had our brainrot and I'll go boomer for a sec and say this is particularly awful. But hey, my friends with kids have largely managed to keep their kids from going completely insane with it even if their friends do, so maybe Jay Dee is revealing he needs to spend more time with his kids.

JD Vance Told His Son to ‘Shut The Hell Up’ About Pokemon While Talking to Trump

Ah...right, probably not. Not sure if likes spending time with his kids.

[Draco-Onis]

So...those dems flipped and got shafted? How predictable.

Schummer is writing a strongly worded letter as we speak.

[s_bushido]

So...those dems flipped and got shafted? How predictable.

They caved for nothing but a promise on a vote. A vote everyone knew would fail. It's less about them getting shafted, and more about them throwing away any leverage they had because they're cowards who wanted to preserve the filibuster as much as Republicans did.

a constant reminder that our greatest defense against these people is that they are by and large fucking incompetent

Nah, I'd say "reality" is the greatest defense against them. Because literally nothing they believe conforms to it. Incompetence is just a close 2nd.

[Zaydin]

Trump has "pardoned" Tina Peters who was convicted for her allowing unauthorized access to voting machines because she believed in the Big Lie. Her actions ended up costing Colorado 10 million dollars to replace the compromised voting machines.

The reason "pardoned" is in quotation marks is because the pardon is worth less than toilet paper because he legally lacks the authority to pardon her. Why? Because Peters was convicted in state court, on state charges, and the President can only issue pardons or grant clemency for federal crimes.

The only person who can pardon Peters is the governor of Colorado and Jared Polis, a Democrat, has already said he has no intention of pardoning her or releasing her from prison.


Also, the Lieutenant Governor of Indiana confirmed that Trump threatened to withhold all federal funding for Indiana if they refused to gerrymander their maps as he was ordering them to do.