Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Paranoid Android]

Then they should have voted for him if they didn't want to hurt their own children like that.

I don't get this comment.

Minnesota is blue for Harris. Are you speaking on the Somali population? Which is not true and back to this affects all of MN.

Trump doesn't care about his voters and will hurt them. His voters will eat qny kinds of shit if Trump owns the Libs.

Back to this story of trump can hold funds because of any fraud case. So I guess a lawsuit and thru the courts. What a mess.

[PACOX]

https://bsky.app/profile/tbh72.bsky..../3mbajjpgdgc2p

At the whim of the president, just freezing funds to hurt children.

Edit: All this off a racist attack on the Somali group as a whole. Likely supercharged by some dipshit with a viral video.

Gotta fix the headlines.


A group of predators dont want children to have access to adequate services. Further make it harder for the working class to access anything.

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Based off of lies from a grifting youtuber.

Based on what people want to see because his video was horrible. Hilariously bad if not for the consequences of it. D level work.

[gondrin]

Trump claims Democrats want to send $2,000 rebate checks to illegals, unless people donate to him.

No, really.



Remember when Biden used the term "go bye bye" with Americans? Or Obama? Or hell, even W? Yeah, you don't, it never happened.

"How much has Trump donated to his own campaign, which is apparently so very important to his agenda?"

I say with evidence the answer is zero dollars and beg anyone to prove me wrong.

I swear, after he gets out of office, he might as well as become a Televangelist and skip the pretext. It somehow would be more honest than what he is doing now.

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Well, Trump vetoed 2 bills that had major bipartisan support and were sponsored by Republicans. He kinda upset Boebert with one of the vetoes.

One of the vetoes was for a pipeline to bring fresh water to rural Colorado and the other was for to add an area to the section of the Florida Everglades that the Miccosukee Native American Tribe has control over.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-i...glades-tribal/

President Trump used his veto power this week for the first time since returning to the White House, rejecting a pair of bipartisan bills designed to make it easier to build a water pipeline in Colorado and give a Native American tribe more control over a portion of the Everglades.

Mr. Trump vetoed the two bills on Monday, the White House announced on X, after they were sent to his desk earlier this month. The bills had backers in both parties, and they passed the House and Senate through voice votes. Both houses of Congress would need to pass the bills again by a two-thirds margin to override the president's veto.

It's fairly rare for the president to exercise his veto power, especially when the president's party controls Congress. Mr. Trump vetoed 10 bills in his first term, all during his last two years in office, and former President Joe Biden used the veto power 13 times while in office.

One of the bills — the Miccosukee Reserved Area Amendments Act — would have added a small village called the Osceola Camp to a section of the Florida Everglades that the Miccosukee Native American Tribe has control over. It would also require the Department of the Interior to take action to protect structures in the village from flooding.

The bill was backed by Florida Republican Sens. Rick Scott and Ashley Moody, and by GOP Rep. Carlos Gimenez and Democratic Rep. Darren Soto. Shortly before it passed the House in July, Gimenez said the bill was "about fairness and conservation."

"It ensures the Miccosukee Tribe has the autonomy to protect their homes, land and their way of life," Gimenez said in a speech on the House floor.

But in a message to Congress on Tuesday, Mr. Trump said the project benefits "special interests" — and accused the tribe of not cooperating with his immigration policies.

He wrote that "despite seeking funding and special treatment from the Federal Government, the Miccosukee Tribe has actively sought to obstruct reasonable immigration policies that the American people decisively voted for when I was elected."

Earlier this year, the tribe joined a lawsuit challenging an immigration detention center in the Everglades that state and federal officials refer to as "Alligator Alcatraz." The tribe has argued the facility could hurt the surrounding environment, impacting the tribe's ability to hunt and hold ceremonies on the land.

The president also argued that the Osceola Camp was originally created without authorization, writing, "it is not the Federal Government's responsibility to pay to fix problems in an area that the Tribe has never been authorized to occupy."

CBS News has reached out to the tribe for comment.

The other piece of legislation that faced a presidential veto this week was the Finish the Arkansas Valley Conduit Act. That bill was aimed at completing a long-planned water pipeline that could serve some 50,000 people in southeastern Colorado.

The pipeline was first proposed during President John F. Kennedy's administration, part of a series of water projects in Colorado. But it was never built, in part because federal law required local communities to pay for it, according to the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation. A 2009 law changed the funding breakdown and allowed local governments to pick up only 35% of the tab. The bill that was passed this year would have reduced those local entities' interest payments and given them more time to repay the costs.

Mr. Trump said he vetoed the bill as part of a broader push to cut "taxpayer handouts." He pointed to the pipeline's expected price tag — the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation estimated in 2023 it would cost about $1.4 billion, double the projected price seven years earlier.

The president argued the legislation "would continue the failed policies of the past by forcing Federal taxpayers to bear even more of the massive costs of a local water project."

The bill was backed by the state's two Democratic senators and by Republican Reps. Lauren Boebert and Jeff Hurd, whose districts include areas that would be served by the pipeline.

Boebert told CBS News in a statement the veto was "very disappointing," writing: "This fight is not over."

Boebert castigated the veto in a separate statement to local reporter Kyle Clark, calling the bill "completely non-controversial" and saying she hopes Mr. Trump's veto "has nothing to do with political retaliation."

"I must have missed the rally where he stood in Colorado and promised to personally derail critical water infrastructure projects," Boebert wrote. "My bad, I thought the campaign was about lowering costs and cutting red tape."

Democratic Sen. John Hickenlooper of Colorado also strongly criticized the president's decision, writing on X: "Donald Trump is playing partisan games and punishing Colorado by making rural communities suffer without clean drinking water."

Fellow Colorado Democratic Sen. Michael Bennet accused the president of seeking "revenge."

Boebert drew attention earlier this year by breaking with Mr. Trump and signing a petition to force a House vote on a bill to release files on Jeffrey Epstein. The bill ultimately passed by nearly unanimous margins after Mr. Trump endorsed it.

Mr. Trump has also lashed out at Colorado officials over the case of Tina Peters, a former GOP county election official who was convicted and sentenced to a multiyear prison sentence for tampering with voting machines. He said in August he would take "harsh measures" if she isn't released from custody.

[Poopymonster]

I don't get this comment.

Minnesota is blue for Harris. Are you speaking on the Somali population? Which is not true and back to this affects all of MN.

Trump doesn't care about his voters and will hurt them. His voters will eat qny kinds of shit if Trump owns the Libs.

Back to this story of trump can hold funds because of any fraud case. So I guess a lawsuit and thru the courts. What a mess.

It's MAGA logic.
They didn't vote for Trump, so they deserve to be punished.
It's their own fault. Voting blue like that. That deep of a blue, they were just asking for it.

[Shadowferal]

Hmm..

[alach]

Hmm..

My New Year's wishes to everyone is for less putin and less trump. If we get that I'd consider 2026 a success.

[Dontrike]

Whatever part of Trump's business(es) admits the "Trump Phone" will be releasing late. No surprise that this will be another "two weeks" product from Trump and his pedophilia empire.

Trump Mobile, the phone company launched by Donald Trump’s family business, has pushed back plans to deliver a $499 (£371) gold-coloured smartphone by the end of the year.

The Trump Organization licensed its name to launch a mobile service and the device in June, in the latest monetisation of his presidency by a family business empire now run by Trump’s sons.

In the latest setback for the project, Trump Mobile said there was a “strong possibility” the handset would not be delivered this month, the Financial Times reported. The company’s customer service team told the FT that the recent government shutdown had disrupted shipments.

The T1 smartphone, described by the company as “proudly American”, was initially promoted as a US-made rival to devices from Apple and Samsung. Almost all smartphones sold in the US are made overseas, primarily in China and South Korea but also increasingly in India and Vietnam.

Etched with an American flag, the T1 was initially promised in August and the website still states it will be released “later this year”. Customers are required to pay a $100 payment to pre-order the device.

The T1 launch came shortly after Trump criticised Apple over its plans to move the production of iPhones destined for the US market from China to India.

It remains unclear who could manufacture the T1 handset, given the low levels of domestic smartphone production in the US.

Trump Mobile also offers a phone contract costing $47.45 monthly, with the name of the service plan and the price referencing Trump’s status as the 47th US president.

The company has also recently started selling secondhand smartphones from Apple and Samsung on its website, which it states come “without the inflated price tag”.

However, a refurbished iPhone 15, which was launched in September 2023, costs $629 (£467) through Trump Mobile, whereas customers can buy a newer model, an iPhone 16 from 2024, directly from Apple for $699. A Samsung Galaxy S24 is being sold for $459, slightly lower than the $489 listed on Samsung’s US website.

The phone venture is headed by Trump’s sons Donald Jr and Eric, who took over the family company after their father transitioned to his second presidency.

The mobile service joins Trump-branded watches, footwear and Bibles as products capitalising on his political brand, while Trump’s sons have indicated there will be more to come.

The Trump Organization has expanded from real estate into digital media and telecommunications. The venture will operate through licensing deals that generated more than $8m for the president in 2024, according to financial disclosures.

The move into phones also raises questions about conflicts of interest, as the president’s family business operates in a sector that is heavily regulated by federal agencies over which Trump wields executive power.

So what's the chances Trump heard of the "Obama phone" (the life line program that helped people get phones) and actually thought Obama was selling phones and thought he should do that to?

[Edge-]

https://bsky.app/profile/tbh72.bsky..../3mbajjpgdgc2p

At the whim of the president, just freezing funds to hurt children.

Edit: All this off a racist attack on the Somali group as a whole. Likely supercharged by some dipshit with a viral video.

surprise: the lying piece of shit made it all up!

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/ne...ctor-responds/

On Dec. 16, 2025, security footage shows various people throughout the day dropping off young children at the state-licensed ABC Learning Center in Minneapolis.

That same day, YouTuber Nick Shirley arrived and claimed that the day care was among many in Minnesota that were empty.

It's the latter video that has gone viral, creating a new political lightning rod as Minnesota grapples with various investigations and accusations related to widespread fraud.

In this instance, Shirley claims that nearly a dozen day cares are taking government funding without actually providing a day care service.

In Shirley's video, which X reports has more than 116 million views, the rightwing influencer visits various day cares, including the ABC Learning Center. The video asserts that the day care is always empty.

hmm

When Shirley knocked on the door, he seemed to fabricate a reason for being there, asking to check a child into the day care. A staff member responds verbally but doesn't let him in; Hasan said that they can't allow strangers into an active day care. In addition, he said that Shirley had a team of up to eight people with him. Some were masked, according to Hasan, which set off alarm bells for his staff members, given recent ICE activity.

yeah i wouldn't let a large group of masked strangers into an active daycare facility either

CBS News conducted its own analysis of nearly a dozen day care centers mentioned by Shirley: all but two have active licenses, according to state records, and all active locations were visited by state regulators within the last six months.

One, Sweet Angel Child Care, Inc., was subject to an unannounced inspection as recently as Dec. 4. CBS News' review also found dozens of citations related to safety, cleanliness, equipment and staff training, among other violations, but there was no recorded evidence of fraud.

so normal stuff - issues that need to be corrected were identified via inspections as those are intended to do, but zero fraud

republicans aren't gullible

this is what they choose to believe voluntarily

because they're malicious, bad people as they evidence again and again and again and again

honestly there should be legal consequences for this kind of malicious lying but republicans would never go for it or else the whole party would fall apart (pls pls pls)

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reminder of the people donald and republicans do look after, though -

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...ent-rcna175681

Philip Esformes, whose 20-year prison sentence for a massive, $1.3 billion Medicare fraud scheme was commuted in 2020 by then-President Donald Trump, was arrested over the weekend in Florida on domestic-violence related charges.

Esformes is at least the seventh person who received executive clemency from Trump, and has since been charged with new crimes, according to The New York Times, which first reported this latest arrest.

lotta career criminals, it seems!

[Paranoid Android]

While this could be it's own thread some of story about Somali Fraud in Minnesota is here, so posting.

Top Minnesota Republican: GOP caucus steered YouTuber Nick Shirley to day care sites

Another MN source here: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/1...nters-of-fraud

So a very clear political operative, by the person who is running for Governor of MN. I had to be reminded that this dipshit, Shirley was at the meeting of
"journalist" at the White House.

I will just link an article but remember when watching this it was crazy and I stated this was an open fascist meeting as they discussed how to jail and do whatever means to attack their political enemies.

What is important about this is our so called MSM is reporting this story as legit visits to centers. There is some pushback and I saw vid on timeline of CNN confronting him. We all know Shirley is not serious but he seems to be opted-in for this story.

[Moralgy]

surprise: the lying piece of shit made it all up!

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/ne...ctor-responds/



hmm



yeah i wouldn't let a large group of masked strangers into an active daycare facility either



so normal stuff - issues that need to be corrected were identified via inspections as those are intended to do, but zero fraud

republicans aren't gullible

this is what they choose to believe voluntarily

because they're malicious, bad people as they evidence again and again and again and again

honestly there should be legal consequences for this kind of malicious lying but republicans would never go for it or else the whole party would fall apart (pls pls pls)

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reminder of the people donald and republicans do look after, though -

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...ent-rcna175681



lotta career criminals, it seems!

Surely conservatives will back up and see that they fell for fake news right? Na jk we know they will double down cause black people are scary. Look out asians, you are next for some strange conspiracy theory to become national concern.

[Milchshake]

Well the president is just a very-online troll. His admin is mostly influencers.
Voters wanted this, the New Populism of "i'm mad and will tell the whole internet about it." So mad this is how they spend xmas and new years eve.




Billionaires and pundits that cleared the way for Trump also wanted this, moreso.
While pumping out all that Fox News for the rubes. Along the way, they got just as addicted.

[Draco-Onis]

Well the president is just a very-online troll. His admin is mostly influencers.
Voters wanted this, the New Populism of "i'm mad and will tell the whole internet about it." So mad this is how they spend xmas and new years eve.

Billionaires and pundits that cleared the way for Trump also wanted this, moreso.
While pumping out all that Fox News for the rubes. Along the way, they got just as addicted.

Frankly it's astounding, America has had a shitty year but he has had a great year he has embezzled 6-7 billion dollars off the presidency. His family is the richest it's ever been with more bribe money coming in from the middle east and Russia. It's new year's eve he should be celebrating with one of his paid mistresses or something.

[gondrin]

So, Trump was forced to remove national guard troops from LA, Chicago and Portland.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...c32b2d17&ei=10

President Trump said he will end the deployment of National Guard troops in Los Angeles, Chicago and Portland, Ore.

The deployments have been repeatedly challenged in court, but Trump said the troops drove down crime. He suggested they might return in the future.

“We will come back, perhaps in a much different and stronger form, when crime begins to soar again—Only a question of time!” he said on Truth Social.

Trump first federalized the California National Guard in June in response to protests against immigration raids across Los Angeles, arguing the troops were necessary to protect federal buildings and workers.

Earlier this month, a federal judge ordered the Trump administration to end the deployment of the California National Guard in Los Angeles, dismissing the administration’s claim that troops were needed to maintain law and order.

The Supreme Court last week blocked Trump from sending the National Guard into the Chicago area, dealing a rare loss to the president on an issue of executive power. It was the first time the justices weighed in on Trump’s efforts to deploy the military to American cities and suggested the court was unwilling to support Trump’s assertions of broad authority to use the National Guard to manage protests and violent crime.

“At this preliminary stage, the Government has failed to identify a source of authority that would allow the military to execute the laws in Illinois,” the court wrote.

"Different and stronger form".

So he is talking about going to send in the actual military such as the Army, Marines or whatever(National Guard, while a branch of the military, is more of a state militia force than a proper military branch).

If he thinks that he will get anymore favorable rulings by sending in the actual military, even SCOTUS has rejected him on the National Guard thing.

[PhaelixWW]

So, Trump was forced to remove national guard troops from LA, Chicago and Portland.

You missed the part where he said:

“We are removing the National Guard from Chicago, Los Angeles, and Portland, despite the fact that CRIME has been greatly reduced by having these great Patriots in those cities, and ONLY by that fact,” Trump wrote on Truth Social, arguing that those cities would be “gone if it weren’t for the Federal Government stepping in.”

So... "they're from the government and they're there to help"?

Terrifying.

[gondrin]

You missed the part where he said:

So... "they're from the government and they're there to help"?

Terrifying.

Something about Ronald Reagan and “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’”.

[Fugus]

So, Trump was forced to remove national guard troops from LA, Chicago and Portland.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...c32b2d17&ei=10



"Different and stronger form".

So he is talking about going to send in the actual military such as the Army, Marines or whatever(National Guard, while a branch of the military, is more of a state militia force than a proper military branch).

If he thinks that he will get anymore favorable rulings by sending in the actual military, even SCOTUS has rejected him on the National Guard thing.

SCOTUS is trying to thread a small needle here. They want him in charge to push for their one party rule but know they can’t let him take full control or they have no power either and are a liability to him and whoever replaces him later.

Wonder how far it has to go before they realize what they want is contradictory and they can’t have their one party rule without it being a dictatorship that costs them their power too and any system that allows them to serve a function is one that will remove them the moment it is able with what they have done.

Basically, they made a deal with the devil and they are now trying to keep the deal alive without paying the devil his due. That won’t last and the most they can do is burn the entire thing down trying to drag everyone else into hell with them.

[Captain N]

So in typical Cult behavior fashion it seems like Shirley's lies about day cares has spread into Washington State and Pennsylvania where folks are breaking into daycare centers to check out if they're legit and falsely accusing legitimately licensed daycare centers as frauds. There's also a few scattered (but not confirmed on any news sites yet)reports of MAGA extremists resorting to violence towards employees of these daycares.

[gondrin]

So in typical Cult behavior fashion it seems like Shirley's lies about day cares has spread into Washington State and Pennsylvania where folks are breaking into daycare centers to check out if they're legit and falsely accusing legitimately licenses daycare centers as frauds. There's also a few scattered (but not confirmed on any news sites yet) of MAGA extremists resorting to violence towards employees of these daycares.

Its the Pizzagate nonsense all over again. This time with child daycare centers.

[Captain N]

Its the Pizzagate nonsense all over again. This time with child daycare centers.

Those people will believe anything. But after the whole "They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats." obviously racist nonsense directed at brown people...It's no surprise that they're going all in on this.

[Dontrike]

In an odd move Trump gets rid of the lease on three golf courses. Not his of course, just the public ones that are operated by a nonprofit.

The Trump administration has ended the lease agreement for three public golf courses in Washington, a move that offers President Donald Trump an additional opportunity to put his stamp on another piece of the nation’s capital.

The National Links Trust, the nonprofit that has operated Washington’s three public courses on federal land for the last five years, said Wednesday that the Department of the Interior had terminated its 50-year lease agreement. The Interior Department said it was terminating the lease because the nonprofit had not implemented required capital improvements and failed to meet the terms of the lease.

While it was unclear what the Trump administration’s plans are for the golf courses, the move gives Trump, whose private company has developed numerous golf courses in the U.S. and abroad, the chance to remake links overlooking the Potomac River and in Rock Creek Park and a site that is part of Black golf history.

Officials for the National Links Trust said in a statement that they were “devastated” by the decision to terminate the lease and defended their management of the courses. They said $8.5 million had gone toward capital improvements at the courses and that rounds played and revenue had more than doubled in their tenure managing the courses. The nonprofit has agreed to keep managing the courses for the time being, but long-term renovations will stop.

“While this termination is a major setback, we remain stubbornly hopeful that a path forward can be found that preserves affordable and accessible public golf in the nation’s capital for generations to come,” the officials added.