Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[DarkTZeratul]

I think is time for the Twenty-Fifth Amendment, Presidential Vacancy and Disability.

It's been time. But unlike Trump 1, Trump 2 staffed his cabinet with lickspittles, yes-man, and knob-gobbling lackeys whose only loyalty is to him, personally, so they would never.

[Breccia]

I am absolutely convinced he still doesn't know how tariffs work.

Which brings up a question. Which is more likely?

A) He does know, and he's lying.

B) He doesn't know, despite people telling him.

I mean, neither option is redeeming.

"What about the option where nobody told him?"

Impossible. Even if he somehow surrounded himself with people unwilling to tell him, he's been in debates and faced the press. He's been told, to his face, multiple times. So, he's either lying, or retarded.

[DarkTZeratul]

I am absolutely convinced he still doesn't know how tariffs work.

Of course he doesn't. He never has. People have explained it to him multiple times and he's just doubled-down on his ignorance.

[Draco-Onis]

Of course he doesn't. He never has. People have explained it to him multiple times and he's just doubled-down on his ignorance.

I disagree Trump knows what tariffs are given that his goal is to have tariffs replace all taxation so that his rich friends don't have to pay anything. It's the ultimate regressive tax, the only reason he hasn't implemented it is because he needs congress to change tax law.

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It's been time. But unlike Trump 1, Trump 2 staffed his cabinet with lickspittles, yes-man, and knob-gobbling lackeys whose only loyalty is to him, personally, so they would never.

It also doesn't pay off to get rid of Trump since he hasn't passed his MAGA cult to anyone and refuses to do so.

[DarkTZeratul]

I disagree Trump knows what tariffs are given that his goal is to have tariffs replace all taxation so that his rich friends don't have to pay anything.

He thinks foreign countries are paying tariffs and not American citizens. He has insisted upon this, repeatedly, even in the face of people telling him otherwise.

[thilicen]

And if we go by the words of what's left of our MMO-C Conservatives they also want to feel the rush of killing someone with brown skin and getting away with it.

Going by the current trajectory of things in the US with Trump, ICE, MAGA, it will be open season by mid April if nobody does something drastic soon.

[Twdft]

Going by the current trajectory of things in the US with Trump, ICE, MAGA, it will be open season by mid April if nobody does something drastic soon.

Document as much as you can. If I lived in America I would have a camera running 100% of the time I'm out in public.

[Draco-Onis]

He thinks foreign countries are paying tariffs and not American citizens. He has insisted upon this, repeatedly, even in the face of people telling him otherwise.

That's the sales pitch and even now many Americans still believe that foreign countries are paying the tariffs.

[DarkTZeratul]

That's the sales pitch and even now many Americans still believe that foreign countries are paying the tariffs.

Yes, because Trump keeps telling them that's how they work. But if you don't think Trump himself believes that, too, I don't know what to tell you. He's made it abundantly clear how much of an idiot he is on the matter.

[Draco-Onis]

Yes, because Trump keeps telling them that's how they work. But you don't think Trump himself believes that, too, I don't know what to tell you. He's made it abundantly clear how much of an idiot he is on the matter.

of course he is an idiot but in this case his goal was to eliminate taxes for himself and he doesn't care what he has to say. Unfortunately for him the tariffs didn't bring in the bazzilions of dollars he thought they would making his plan DOA. Another reason he is holding onto it is that he thinks tariffs are a major leverage against other countries because he doesn't understand trade. However by breaking deals and using that threat so much no one really cares anymore, China is doing better than ever thanks to him.

[diller]

I'm convinced at this point he is just stirring the shit anyway he can so he can cause disorder enough to cancel the elections.

That was what I said some pages back.

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So, if there are any Trump supporters still left on these forums, would anyone care to defend why increasing taxes on the American people is the correct response? I mean, that's what tariffs are, increasing taxes on the American people. We're doing this for Greenland why, exactly? Please, do speak up. We'll all hear you out.

Yup, unless there is a competing non-tariffed item it is just a tax. And that tax is on the US-consumer and will probably go to some undeserving people like farmers and Trump will make a big deal out of giving the farmers money.

[We are covfefe]

Document as much as you can. If I lived in America I would have a camera running 100% of the time I'm out in public.

Sure. Until they steal your phone and sell it, which they have already done here.

[DarkTZeratul]

So our reality show president just announced - angrily, on Truth Social, because that's the way he announces everything - that he's going to sign an executive order to force all TV networks to provide an exclusive four-hour broadcast window for the annual Army-Navy football game because he's sick of it getting pushed off for "College Playoff Games and Big TV Money", and that "No other Game or Team can violate this Time Slot!!!"

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...rmy-navy-game/

[Breccia]

will probably go to some undeserving people like farmers and Trump will make a big deal out of giving the farmers money.

Whether or not farmers are "deserving" is debatable. Yes Trump screwed them, yes they voted for that at least three times.

However, from the articles I've read, farmers themselves are seeing this supposed $12 billion bailout as too little and too late. It won't undo their votes in 2024, but it won't help Team Trump in 2026. I've already run the numbers in another post and most farmers would about 25% of their losses, unless they went bankrupt of course.

And that's before Trump basically threatened WW3 over fucking Greenland, which will dry up overseas purchases from not just China but hopefully everywhere else. There is no reason to believe China will back away from Russia or Iran, therefore no reason to think Trump will ease up on them, therefore no reason to think they'll resume purchases as if nothing has happened.

On this issue, at least, Trump seems to be hurting people enough that they actually learn their lesson.

[Edge-]

So our reality show president just announced - angrily, on Truth Social, because that's the way he announces everything - that he's going to sign an executive order to force all TV networks to provide an exclusive four-hour broadcast window for the annual Army-Navy football game because he's sick of it getting pushed off for "College Playoff Games and Big TV Money", and that "No other Game or Team can violate this Time Slot!!!"

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...rmy-navy-game/

much first amendment

very free speech

nazi dementia grandpa is spiraling

[Breccia]

So our reality show president just announced - angrily, on Truth Social, because that's the way he announces everything - that he's going to sign an executive order to force all TV networks to provide an exclusive four-hour broadcast window for the annual Army-Navy football game because he's sick of it getting pushed off for "College Playoff Games and Big TV Money", and that "No other Game or Team can violate this Time Slot!!!"

An Executive Order has no effect on non-government television broadcast companies.

The End.

Now, he can threaten them with the FCC or something, but it sounds like something they'd just ignore assuming he's bluffing and sue for billions and win if he's not.

[alach]

Apologies if this has already been talked about, I seem to be missing things lately, but I think it is important to highlight. Because what is happening now is exactly what smart people predicted would happen. Trump tarrifs and aggressive behavoir is pushing his allies away into other directions.
Canada strikes tariff deal with China as global trade moves further from U.S.
That is a big deal!

Canada wants to be 1st in North America to build EV with Chinese knowledge: senior official
America could have been 1st. If Kamala had won. Instead you have a walking toupee with a man-child attached denouncing the evils of EVs. Oh well. How do the non-trump politicians feel?

Schatz says US ‘absolutely rolled’ by China-Canada trade deal

Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) said Friday Americans would be hurt by a trade deal between China and Canada as foreign nations seek new trade partners amid the Trump administration’s tariff wars.

“We just got absolutely rolled in this Canada – China deal. A stark foreign policy failure with domestic economic consequences,” Schatz wrote in a post on social platform X.

“The most basic principle in politics and geopolitics is loyalty to friends. And we weren’t just disloyal – we were hostile. So here we are,” he added.

Strong words and well, he said it better than I could have. But he gets paid for it, so I don't feel bad.

Lets look elsewhere?
EU and South America’s Mercosur bloc sign landmark free trade agreement

The European Union and the Mercosur bloc of South American countries formally signed a long-sought landmark free trade agreement on Saturday, capping more than a quarter-century of torturous negotiations to strengthen commercial ties in the face of rising protectionism and trade tensions around the world.

The signing ceremony in Paraguay’s humid capital of Asunción marks a major geopolitical victory for the EU in an age of American tariffs and surging Chinese exports, expanding the bloc’s foothold in a resource-rich region increasingly contested by Washington and Beijing.

After 25 years of talks, the EU signed the EU-Mercosur trade deal on Saturday, creating a 700 million-person free-trade area. Ratification is still pending, however, with the European Parliament set for a heated debate.
EU chief Ursula von der Leyen on Saturday hailed the choosing of "fair trade over tariffs" as the European bloc signed a major trade deal with South America's Mercosur nations that has been 25 years in the making.
"We choose fair trade over tariffs, we chose a productive long-term partnership over isolation," Von der Leyen said at the ceremony in Asuncion, Paraguay.

Now, this deal has been being worked on for 20 years. It can't all be because of trump's policies, but you can bet your sweet potato fries - he sure did help it along.

[thilicen]

Now, this deal has been being worked on for 20 years. It can't all be because of trump's policies, but you can bet your sweet potato fries - he sure did help it along.

It does take time but that ball is rolling all over Europe as well. Politicians here have been talking about phasing out the US more and more, escalating even further now of course. Trump is moving the entire world towards China and Eurasia because of his dumbfuck tactics.

[gondrin]

much first amendment

very free speech

nazi dementia grandpa is spiraling

Honestly, I would follow the EO but show some other sport. Maybe synchronized swimming or, to really piss him off, competitive pillow fighting.

Yes, it is a thing.

[En Sabah Nur]

Well, it's been pretty critical since the '50s, what with Russia just over the icecap.

But that's why they set up the Defense of Greenland Treaty in '51. So the US could establish bases in Greenland for that mutual defense and national security.

So they already had the national security issue resolved. For the last 75 years. Trump's just lying, because he's a gluttonous narcissistic moron, and can't grasp that attacking Greenland is national suicide.

Yeah, that's kinda my point. Why is it now such a desperate thing. It certainly isn't for this dome shit Trump keeps going on about. Is it just greed, and the need to make rich folks even richer? Or is he trying to expand the US? I've seen people suggest he's trying to create a rival to the UN that he can control even lol