Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

If I'm honest, I actually don't see Trump lasting another 3 years, anyway. If he actually does, I hope that resistance and pushback grows for the entirety of it, until he and his party are reduced to nothing. The real fear is what comes after.

I agree that Trump is fading, and I think everyone knows it. That's why I'm a little less worried about "next". There is no such thing as Vice Cult Leader. There are at least a dozen people who think they're heir to the throne, but Trump's plan is to tear down the entire castle. Like, literally and figuratively.

Oddly enough, the biggest evidence in this direction is MTG fleeing. I think everyone sees the problem. MTG just has no filter and said it out loud first.

[Bwgmon]

I agree that Trump is fading, and I think everyone knows it. That's why I'm a little less worried about "next". There is no such thing as Vice Cult Leader. There are at least a dozen people who think they're heir to the throne, but Trump's plan is to tear down the entire castle. Like, literally and figuratively.

Oddly enough, the biggest evidence in this direction is MTG fleeing. I think everyone sees the problem. MTG just has no filter and said it out loud first.

I think that's also why a lot of shit has been ramping up in intensity, I'd imagine people like Miller are racing to get as close as they can to "mission complete" before the bed gets shit.

[Breccia]

I think that's also why a lot of shit has been ramping up in intensity, I'd imagine people like Miller are racing to get as close as they can to "mission complete" before the bed gets shit.

That's an excellent point, actually, I think you're right. Unfortunately for them, I think they're trying to do too much too quickly, Exhibit A being all those Executive Orders Trump is trying to apply to private businesses, Exhibits B through 36DD are the court cases they're losing. They know they can't do it the right way, either because it's impossible, or because they don't have the time.

Then, add the Epstein files. The desperation to push this past 2026 is palpable. Standing side by side with someone who raped children is something they don't want on their record. The GOP has been concerned about 2026 since, well, April's tariffs honestly, but nothing that's happened since has soothed those fears.

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Nearly half of countries on Trump’s Board of Peace banned from entering US

Trump's "pay me a billion dollars to pretend to have a vote in my Dollar Store UN" has a problem: they're not welcome to the country where Trump lives.

Argentina, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bulgaria, Hungary, Indonesia, Jordan, Kosovo, Mongolia, Morocco, Pakistan, Paraguay, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates and Uzbekistan.

The listed countries have people who agreed to bribe Trump in full daylight. I crossed off the ones Trump has blocked legal immigrant access.

"What about all the European countries?"

I listed all of them.

"It's just Hungary."

Yep. Turns out, when you invite Putin, a lot of people choose not to attend.

[Edge-]

I'm not surprised the Trump admin started doing this. Their online fluffers like Asmongold have been using AI to edit people's faces for their YT video thumbnails since forever.

so the white house official line is

"you can't stop us from making memes"

because these stupid, retarded, shitdick, hateful morons don't understand what the fuck a meme is either

fuck every one of these people, i hate them on a deep personal level

[Shpriest]

The No Kings protests spilled into Davos:

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/no-kin...l-256303685890

Made me smile.

[alach]

Nearly half of countries on Trump’s Board of Peace banned from entering US

Trump's "pay me a billion dollars to pretend to have a vote in my Dollar Store UN" has a problem: they're not welcome to the country where Trump lives.



The listed countries have people who agreed to bribe Trump in full daylight. I crossed off the ones Trump has blocked legal immigrant access.

"What about all the European countries?"

I listed all of them.

"It's just Hungary."

Yep. Turns out, when you invite Putin, a lot of people choose not to attend.

Well, Bulgaria is Europe as well, and NATO, and Schengen, and Eurozone.
But, funny story, the Prime Minister only was there because apparently they invited Belgium and the trump administration got confused to who they sent the letter to.
He also resigned as Prime Minister last month, but there he was, by mistake, happily signing a document next to trump I imagine he wasn't sure for exactly what.

Here they say Belarus, but the scandal here was it was Bulgaria.
White House confuses Belgium with Belarus on “Board of Peace” countries list

In what appears to hazve been a major slip up the White House mistakenly listed Belgium as one of the countries participating in the US President Donald Trump's “Board of Peace”. Following the publication of the list, the Belgian Foreign Minister Maxime Prévot (Francophone centrist) was quick to respond that Belgium’s inclusion was an error. According to a government source, the United States had confused Belgium with Belarus

“Argentina, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bulgaria, Egypt, Hungary, Indonesia, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Mongolia, Morocco, Pakistan, Paraguay, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan and Belgium”. These were the countries named in a list that was published by several US media outlets shortly before the treaty establishing the so-called Board of Peace was signed.

Not long after the list was published, the Belgian Foreign minister Maxime Prévot set the record straight with a message posted on the social media platform X. Mr Prévot wrote that " Belgium has NOT signed the Charter of the Board of Peace. This announcement is incorrect. We wish for a common and coordinated European response. As many European countries, we have reservations to the proposal”.

The American news channel NBC later reported, based on an anonymous source, that Belgium had indeed signed the agreement but backed out at the last minute. However, Belgian government formally deny this, claiming that the White House had confused Belgium with Belarus.

Just another example of the trump's administration head-scratching, face-palming, level of incompetence.

[Gabriel]

so the white house official line is

"you can't stop us from making memes"

because these stupid, retarded, shitdick, hateful morons don't understand what the fuck a meme is either

fuck every one of these people, i hate them on a deep personal level

If a meme owns the libs, it's based. If it insults the chuds, it's hate speech and punishable by ICE shooting you in the face.

[Breccia]

Well, Bulgaria is Europe as well

Sorry, the "other voice" is typically framed as a MAGA voter, and I doubt most of them could find Greenland on a map, let alone Bulgaria or, say, Belgium. Hungary at least they know because Trump keeps promising their strongman leader. Sorry if that was unclear.

[alach]

Sorry, the "other voice" is typically framed as a MAGA voter, and I doubt most of them could find Greenland on a map, let alone Bulgaria or, say, Belgium. Hungary at least they know because Trump keeps promising their strongman leader. Sorry if that was unclear.

Oh it's not just you. All the big news stations are making the same mistake. I don't think any one was aware the ex-prime minister of Bulgaria was there.
For me it's actually hilarious.
For a Bulgarian it's mortifying, embarrassing, and rather shameful, not just because he was there, but also because no one actually realized it.

[Rasulis]

Carney's decision to allow up to 49,000 Chinese EVs (increasing to 70,000 by year five) into Canada under the most-favored nation tariff rate of 6.1 percent is a big blow to US automakers. There is no way US automakers, burdened by union wages and legacy health care, can compete in term of cost with China where the average wage for assembly line automotive worker is $3 per hour. The quality of Chinese EVs is just as good or better than their US counterparts. Chinese companies are also highly subsidized.

Without some kind of artificial economic barriers, US automakers are in trouble. Trump pissing US allies make them less likely to put those barriers up.

[Breccia]

Trump blasts Harris on Iran, says Biden administration is ‘leading us to brink of World War III’

Trump used Iran’s missile attack on Israel on Tuesday to slam Vice President Kamala Harris, blasting her and President Joe Biden as “grossly incompetent” and threatening that they “are leading us to the brink of World War III.”

It was his latest instance of using current events largely out of Harris’ control to bash the vice president — just one day after turning a visit to a community ravaged by Hurricane Helene into a political jab. On Tuesday, Trump blamed the escalation of the war in the Middle East on Biden and Harris’ foreign policy, saying “the so-called enemy doesn’t respect our country any longer.”

“The two incompetent people running our country — and I don’t think they’re even running it — are leading us to the brink of World War III, a war like no other,” Trump told a raucous crowd in Waunakee, Wisconsin, claiming without evidence that the nation’s first and second in command are not in fact in charge of the administration.

"Wait, wait, Helene? This is from 2024. Why are you quoting it now?"

Oh, silly me. I quoted the wrong article. How awkward. Here's the correct one:

Trump Says U.S. ‘Armada’ Is Heading to Iran, Raising Pressure on Regime

“We’re watching Iran,” Mr. Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One as he returned to the United States from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “We have a big flotilla going in that direction, and we’ll see what happens,” he added, describing the force as an “armada.”

Mr. Trump had appeared to back away from threats to strike Iran, saying he had received assurances that detained protesters there would not be executed. Leaders across the Middle East had also warned Mr. Trump that a military confrontation could destabilize the region.

Last week, the Pentagon ordered the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln and three Tomahawk-missile-firing destroyers in the South China Sea to head to the Middle East, according to two U.S. officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss operational matters.

The Air Force in the past week also sent a dozen F-15E fighters to the region to strengthen strike aircraft numbers, according to the officials.

Maj. Gen. Ali Abdollahi Aliabadi, a commander in Iran’s Khatam-al Anbiya Central Headquarters, said on Thursday that any attack on the country would “turn all U.S. interests, bases and centers of influence” into targets, according to state media.

The Iranian government said this week that it had quelled antigovernment protests, which erupted last month. Iran’s state television has said that more than 3,100 people were killed during the demonstrations, but human rights groups monitoring the unrest say the toll is significantly higher.

"Well, we have to protect those protestors! They could be beautiful loving patriots, just looking for a chance to storm the legal chamber and use threats and violence to cause political change! Like the people Trump pardoned!"

Hmm. What about the protestors in Minneapolis?

"Oh, those unarmed people using non-violent actions are the worst people alive and deserve it when they're shot and killed by ICE."

Yeah. Trump does not value protest. Trump does not value anything but Trump. Greenland didn't work, but Venezuela did, so he's going to start another war in the Middle East for nothing.

"But the threat of force saved hundreds of lives!"

On Thursday, Mr. Trump said that his threats of intervention had stopped more than 830 executions, mostly of young men, though Iran’s prosecutor general, Mohammad Movahedi, denied that.

"You're going to believe Iran?"

Well, they contradict Trump, so, yes, the odds are they're the ones telling the truth. Trump said he stopped 8 wars, collected trillions of dollars in tariffs, and lowered drug prices 400 percent. Trump has reached the point he can't even tell the truth accidentally.

I want every country on Earth that isn't us to think about the following progression:
1) Invading Iraq for invading Kuwait.
2) Invading Afghanistan for refusing to turn over Osama bin Laden.
3) Invading Iraq the second time on the grounds of fabricated WMD and "he hates my daddy."
4) This.

Do you really want to get involved? Especially those of you in the Middle East, is this what you want going on?

[Biglog]

Carney's decision to allow up to 49,000 Chinese EVs (increasing to 70,000 by year five) into Canada under the most-favored nation tariff rate of 6.1 percent is a big blow to US automakers. There is no way US automakers, burdened by union wages and legacy health care, can compete in term of cost with China where the average wage for assembly line automotive worker is $3 per hour. The quality of Chinese EVs is just as good or better than their US counterparts. Chinese companies are also highly subsidized.

The catch is that US auto manufacturers sold 17,000,000 cars last year. So 50,000 Chinese EVs would only be .3% of the market, even if every Chinese EV buyer was opting for that instead of a US-made car. It would take millions of cars to shift the market. Manufacturers are still paying attention since unlimited access would probably doom the NA auto industry. But 50k cars wouldn't upturn things, since that's barely an accounting error for the big 3.

Politically though it is a big reverse by Canada to warm up to China after very tense relations for several years. And China is probably hoping long-term that this will eventually lead to more open access for their EVs.

[Gabriel]

Wow.

[Endus]

Wow.

Oh noooooo. Carney couldn't meet with the other two founding members because they couldn't come to Davos for the WEF because they're wanted war criminals who would've been arrested and thrown at The Hague for prosecution.

No serious person wants on Trump's Bored of Peace foundation.

[Edge-]

Wow.

that's not a letter, that's a social media post.

"YOU ARE UNINVITED FROM THE CLUB YOU DON'T WANT TO JOIN"

big 5 year old energy

[thilicen]

Wow.

He literally sounds like a child.

[Poopymonster]

I think that's also why a lot of shit has been ramping up in intensity, I'd imagine people like Miller are racing to get as close as they can to "mission complete" before the bed gets shit.

There is a little town in Pennsylvania that I'm sure would have a lovely time with them.

[Corvus]

Trump is just bigly mad Carney gave a much better speech that actually dud get rave reviews.

His latest thing is offending NATO allies (again) by saying the US doesn't need them and they avoided combat in Afghanistan. That did not go down well at all in the UK, which had 457 KIA in Afghanistan. Denmark also lost as many per capita as the US which is why trumps actions against them are seen as such a betrayal.

[btlcryct]

Trump is just bigly mad Carney gave a much better speech that actually dud get rave reviews.

His latest thing is offending NATO allies (again) by saying the US doesn't need them and they avoided combat in Afghanistan. That did not go down well at all in the UK, which had 457 KIA in Afghanistan. Denmark also lost as many per capita as the US which is why trumps actions against them are seen as such a betrayal.

Yea, President Bone Spurs shouldn't be commenting on ANYONE avoiding combat. Especially when that's a false accusation.

[Breccia]

Wow.

That has some "you can't fire me, I quit!" energy to it. Or maybe "in fact, forget the blackjack!"