Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Kaleredar]

To be precise, around 11,000 union workers will lose their jobs.



Obviously, they both voted for Trump.

Gateway Board meeting public comment segment.

“This is not you, leopard who eats people’s faces! Eating people’s faces is not what you’re about!”


I’d almost find a sense of schadenfreude in all of this if we weren’t all in a sinking ship because of their bad decision making.

[Xath]

I'd also point out that there is around 20% of republicans that dont and haven't supported trump. Those are the honest conservatives like Skroe was, that want small government and a laundry list of issues that trump has managed to twist and manipulate into the what the party is now. Trumpism and Maga is not what true Republicans represented.
It's the reason that most of those that served with trump in his first term hate him more than most liberals do now. He completely hijacked the party.

If they voted for him they support him full stop

[Mayhem]

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/04/nx-s1...cted-companies

hey

it seems the government is in the business of picking winners and losers after all!

When wasn't it?

[alach]

If they voted for him they support him full stop

They didn't. That was my entire point. That there exists a group of the conservative party that doesn't just support, but flat out loathe trump.

[Nymrohd]

They didn't. That was my entire point. That there exists a group of the conservative party that doesn't just support, but flat out loathe trump.

Is it 20% though? That sounds high? Did he really bring that many new voters?

[Gorsameth]

They didn't. That was my entire point. That there exists a group of the conservative party that doesn't just support, but flat out loathe trump.

If 20% of conservatives would never ever vote for Trump he would not be president today. Those numbers simply do not add up.

[Nymrohd]

If 20% of conservatives would never ever vote for Trump he would not be president today. Those numbers simply do not add up.

I mean 20% of traditional GOP voters in 2016 would be what, 6% of the electorate? He'd need to pull out 15% of the electorate that doesn't bother to vote to make up for that. He only won the popular vote the second time. But yeah, 20% does seem to much. If @alach had said 5% or even 10% I'd believe it.

[alach]

Ok, so I'm bad at math. But, lets look at these latest numbers,

According to the Pew Research Center, which surveyed more than 8,000 U.S. adults between Jan. 20 and Jan. 26, Trump’s approval rating has dropped from 40% in the fall to 37% today, and 50% say that the Trump administration’s actions have been worse than they expected, versus 21% who say they’re better than expected. But here’s where it gets strikingly bad for the president: “Only about a quarter of Americans today (27%) say they support all or most of Trump’s policies and plans, down from 35% when he returned to office last year. That change has come entirely among Republicans,” Pew reported.

A quarter of *All* Americans don't support trump's plans. That has to include a not insignificant portion of the GoP.

And here is a good page of what my original point was about;
Never Trump movement

It is generally made up of "long-standing, professional Republicans or conservatives",[3] donors, consultants, operatives, writers and commentators, as well as Republican officeholders.[4] Many of the last group have abandoned the cause and journeyed to Trump's home in Mar-a-Lago to "kiss the ring"[5] or "bend the knee",[2] as rank and file support for Trump has remained strong, and his takeover of the Republican Party has been consolidated.[6] The movement began as an effort on the part of a group of Republicans (known as Never Trump Republicans) and other prominent conservatives to prevent Republican front-runner Trump from obtaining the 2016 Republican Party presidential nomination, and after he was nominated, from winning the 2016 United States presidential election.[7] Following his victory, remaining adherents worked to foil his re-election in 2020,[8] and then his return in 2024. With his second presidential election victory in 2024, the New York Times described Republican dissenters as having "been driven into retirement, defeated in primaries or cowed into silence".[9] Many "Never Trumpers" belong(ed) to The Lincoln Project.

But you are right, it may be a bit high. I can't find sources now but I'm sure I saw polling awhile back that showed 20% Conservatives that aren't fans of trump to put it lightly, and he is only raising those numbers. He turned Massie and MTG against him for gods sake.

[Nymrohd]

Ok, so I'm bad at math. But, lets look at these latest numbers,



A quarter of *All* Americans don't support trump's plans. That has to include a not insignificant portion of the GoP.

And here is a good page of what my original point was about;
Never Trump movement


But you are right, it may be a bit high. I can't find sources now but I'm sure I saw polling awhile back that showed 20% Conservatives that aren't fans of trump to put it lightly, and he is only raising those numbers. He turned Massie and MTG against him for gods sake.

See the first poll would be relevant to people who voted for him both times. I could see people voting for him the first time because of just party loyalty and become Never Trump during his first term. But if you voted for him the second time and you are only shocked now then good god the bar was in the Marianna Trench. I think conservative centrists who were not part of the culture war and were big on propriety were probably disgusted by Trump and some of them just had enough pride to never return. But they'll be back the moment he is out.

[Flarelaine]

it's been nearly 50 years since reagan and it seems most people have no opinion of that admin at all, much less a highly negative one.

I do remember my 7?-year old self being outraged about him after hearing on state television he's a Bad Man enough to grab a felt pen and draw an illustrated protest letter. I'm sure my parents saw to it being mailed.

[alach]

I do remember my 7?-year old self being outraged about him after hearing on state television he's a Bad Man enough to grab a felt pen and draw an illustrated protest letter. I'm sure my parents saw to it being mailed.

I read that as 77 year old self and was immediately impressed by your computer skills at your age.
Sorry.

*****

[Endus]

They didn't. That was my entire point. That there exists a group of the conservative party that doesn't just support, but flat out loathe trump.

This is an objective and very simple issue to resolve.

Did they vote for Trump?

If "yes", they supported Trump and voted for everything Trump is doing. This is cut and dry.

They may no longer support Trump, but frankly, we'll have to see another election and how they vote to determine that. And if they're continuing to vote for the same local Republicans while publicly decrying Trump, their denial of support is fully and entirely performative. Empty rhetoric is empty. Actions matter. Including lack of action, if they're staying at home rather than joining protests against ICE and the like alongside left-wingers.

I'd posit some are feeling embarrassed by Trump, but they're doing fuck-all to oppose him or his regime. Definitely not 20%.

[Breccia]

I'll quickly sum up this latest WH press briefing.

Reporter: Are you sure using the WH to promote your own movie is a good idea?
Melania: I'm not promoting the movie. This is an official WH meeting about the release of two hostages.
Reporter: Okay, if this is an official WH meeting, let's talk about how you're in the Epstein files.
Melania: This meeting is over. (walks out)

[Dontrike]

With far too many images to show here in this post here we have some texts from Banon that showed up from the Epstein files. They're about as despicable as you think.

[alach]

I thought Breccia would have been here with the job numbers by now. I'll save the shtick, and get to the headlines, its bad, the headlines via CNN.

Last month was the worst January for job cut announcements since 2009

Private-sector hiring slumped in January, adding just 22,000 jobs

And one for the chat that I'm sure will be polarizing;
Harris relaunches her old ‘Kamala HQ’ account as an online organizing project

[Kaleredar]

Ok, so I'm bad at math. But, lets look at these latest numbers,



A quarter of *All* Americans don't support trump's plans. That has to include a not insignificant portion of the GoP.

And here is a good page of what my original point was about;
Never Trump movement


But you are right, it may be a bit high. I can't find sources now but I'm sure I saw polling awhile back that showed 20% Conservatives that aren't fans of trump to put it lightly, and he is only raising those numbers. He turned Massie and MTG against him for gods sake.

Such a poll can be misleading.

It’s like the “only 35%(or whatever) of Americans approve of democrats.” That doesn’t mean “65% of Americans approve of republicans,” the reasons why they disapprove is not itself an indication of support for the other side.

To wit, conservatives being dissatisfied with Trump is not inherently meaningful if they continue to vote for and support him because they still “fear” the democrats more.

And I have basically zero respect for any person that at this point has seen Trump’s first presidency and the absolute shitshow that was and still voted for him two additional times. They don’t get to be surprised now.

Especially when the alternatives were the most utterly line-drive down the middle candidates of Harris and Biden, who you could critique for not being progressive enough but you sure as shit couldn’t describe as being too “radical,” despite the republican’s best efforts to paint them as such.

[LeGin v4]

Trump signals US support for Chagos handover deal

An "act of great stupidity" (20/01/26) or "the best [deal] he [Starmer] could make" 05/02/26?

Totally confused

[Edge-]

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/05/g-s1-...-white-workers

donald, using the doj as his personal lawyers, is now "investigating" nike for discriminating against white workers lmao

[fwc577]

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/05/g-s1-...-white-workers

donald, using the doj as his personal lawyers, is now "investigating" nike for discriminating against white workers lmao

NFL next! He's got beef with them, lmao. :P

[Rasulis]

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/05/g-s1-...-white-workers

donald, using the doj as his personal lawyers, is now "investigating" nike for discriminating against white workers lmao

The investigation against Nike, however, does not stem from any worker complaint against the company. Rather, Lucas filed her own complaint in May 2024 through a more rarely used tool known as a commissioner's charge, according to the court documents. Her charge came just months after America First Legal, a conservative legal group founded by top Trump adviser Stephen Miller, sent the EEOC a letter outlining complaints against Nike and urging the agency to file a commissioner's charge.

I repeat "does not stem from any worker complaint against the company."