Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[P for Pancetta]

You're assuming that they used some proprietary AI and didn't just run it through ChatGPT/Grog/Copilot, and if they used a publicly available commercial AI the raw data is 1000000% on the AI company's servers no matter what the company says about how their AI treats customer data.

That's true, but unfortunately also irrelevant. The tech bro's are on their side. unless they used a Chinese one.

[Gabriel]

That's true, but unfortunately also irrelevant. The tech bro's are on their side. unless they used a Chinese one.

There's no honor among the psychopaths. Who ever has the unredacted files is going to use them to blackmail the administration, or sell them to someone else who will do it instead.

Best case scenario is that some prompt engineer fishes the files out from Grog's servers and the public gets access to them.

[DarkTZeratul]

Weaponized incompetence. Easier to say, "we did not know that was illegal," after the fact.

It has been quite thoroughly established that ignorance of the law is not a valid legal defense.

[Rasulis]

It has been quite thoroughly established that ignorance of the law is not a valid legal defense.

Unless you are the Fed.

[Xath]

Massie says that someone dropped a thumb drive on his desk with the full unredacted files. That means someone on the opposition was smart enough to save the entire thing before Trump's DOJ got their hands on it (if true) which is something I was hoping they had done.

Hoping Clintons don't get assassinated before they get to testify publicly.

If it's true and he wants to show he actually is a Christian he would release the unredacted files at least the email addresses since those are the main redaction needed to be removed to blow stuff wide open regardless of what the doj wants to protect.

[Fugus]

If it's true and he wants to show he actually is a Christian he would release the unredacted files at least the email addresses since those are the main redaction needed to be removed to blow stuff wide open regardless of what the doj wants to protect.

Hate to say it, if Massie is being honest, I wouldn't be surprised to see everything he has raided within the next 24 hours and potentially him having a little "accident" or maybe a loved one of theirs.

He better have insurance setup to protect him with copies distributed to ensure it can't stop with him.

[gondrin]

Massie says that someone dropped a thumb drive on his desk with the full unredacted files. That means someone on the opposition was smart enough to save the entire thing before Trump's DOJ got their hands on it (if true) which is something I was hoping they had done.

Hoping Clintons don't get assassinated before they get to testify publicly.

On this.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...de924b03&ei=17

A Republican congressman sounded the alarm on Saturday about a newly revealed plot by the DOJ to, as he put it, "protect perpetrators" connected to Jeffrey Epstein.

The DOJ recently released more files related to the deceased child sex abuser, but some eagle-eyed observers have pointed out what appears to be unnecessary censoring of individuals who appear to be talking about unlawful conduct against minors.

A popular X user pointed out that this was likely part of an instruction from the FBI to "redact" the names of "celebrities" and "U.S. presidents."

"In March 2025, the FBI discusses internally the 'clear and specific guidance' to redact images of 'former U.S. Presidents, Secretary of State, and other celebrities,'" the user wrote, catching the attention of the GOP's Thomas Massie.

Massie shared that post and added, "From March 2025: 'Who is protected under this transparency task?' 'presidents' 'sec. of state' 'celebrities.'"

He then added, "Nothing would have been released if Rep Ro Khanna and I hadn’t forced this."

"And even now, against the law, they’re withholding information to protect perpetrators," the Republican concluded.

Outside of the actual victims, nobody's name should be redacted. Everyone else can defend themselves in a court of law if they have to.

On Massie though, he can easily push for the law to be followed by, you know, putting forth impeachment proceedings against the head of the DoJ and the FBI for not following the law. Basically threaten to remove them from office instead of complaining about them not following the law.

[Xath]

Hate to say it, if Massie is being honest, I wouldn't be surprised to see everything he has raided within the next 24 hours and potentially him having a little "accident" or maybe a loved one of theirs.

He better have insurance setup to protect him with copies distributed to ensure it can't stop with him.

Oh I agree absolutely he needs a Deadman switch without a doubt.

[Endus]

Outside of the actual victims, nobody's name should be redacted. Everyone else can defend themselves in a court of law if they have to.

If your life completely collapses and you lose all your friends and family and loved ones because you attended an Epstein party where kids were being raped and you never got involved in any of that you just had non-pedophilic fun with adults?

Good.

May your life never get better. You're a fucking shithead. You've earned all of it. Yes, just by association. Fuck you.

[Dontrike]

Pentagon is cutting ties with Harvard because it's "woke."

The Pentagon said Friday it is cutting ties with Harvard University, ending all military training, fellowships and certificate programs with the Ivy League institution.

The announcement marks the latest development in the Trump administration’s prolonged standoff with Harvard over the White House’s demands for reforms at the Ivy League school.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said in a statement Friday that Harvard “no longer meets the needs of the War Department or the military services.”

“For too long, this department has sent our best and brightest officers to Harvard, hoping the university would better understand and appreciate our warrior class,” Hegseth said. “Instead, too many of our officers came back looking too much like Harvard — heads full of globalist and radical ideologies that do not improve our fighting ranks.”

In a separate post on X, Hegseth wrote, “Harvard is woke; The War Department is not.”

Starting with the 2026-27 academic year, the Pentagon will discontinue graduate-level professional military education, fellowships and certificate programs, the statement said. Personnel currently attending classes at Harvard will be able to finish those courses.

Remember, knowledge and smarts = globalist and radical.

[Sterling Archer]

Pentagon is cutting ties with Harvard because it's "woke."

What kind of idiot would put someone from Harvard in the Pentagon in the first place?



Oh, the demented Nazi child rapist kind of idiot.

The American military should cut ties with Harvard. Any "university" that would award a degree to a drunken, rapist, shit-for-brains, hollow-souled, plagiarizing Nazi like Pete Hegseth is unworthy, and none of its graduates should be anywhere near the Pentagon. A toast to the swift removal of Harvard graduates from the Pentagon, preferably with extreme prejudice.


I'll bet Harvard feels pretty stupid for bragging about giving Pete Hegseth a degree, though.

[alach]

No 3d chess. No art of the deal. No "he has a plan."
Just lies, stupidity and incompetence.

U.S. Trade Deficit Widens Despite Trump’s Tariffs

The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services rebounded to $56.8 billion in November, rising 95 percent from the previous month as President Trump’s tariffs continued to cause huge fluctuations in trade, according to data from the Commerce Department released on Thursday.

Exports fell 3.6 percent in the month, to $292.1 billion, led by declining outbound shipments of gold, pharmaceuticals, consumer goods and crude oil. Imports rose 5 percent in November, to $348.9 billion, as Americans bought foreign pharmaceuticals as well as equipment to fill new data centers. The combination pushed up the monthly trade deficit, the gap between what the United States imports and what it exports.

New Data: Immigrants Keep Economy Strong, As Congress Considers Wasting Billions on Mass Deportation

Washington DC, February 25, 2025 — New data analysis by the American Immigration Council shows how immigrants are contributing billions of dollars to the U.S. economy, even as the Trump administration and Congress are pushing for a budget that includes unprecedented funding for mass detention and deportation.

The Council’s analysis, which draws from 2023 census data, shows the broad ways that immigrants are helping make the United States a more prosperous and thriving country: by building housing wealth, keeping social services like Social Security and Medicare solvent, and filling in as a much-needed labor force in sectors like STEM, healthcare, and agriculture. The data also helps shed light on how mass deportation and family separation could hurt families, communities, and industries across the country.

America’s Global Reputation Takes a Tumble Amid Trump 2.0 Era

New polling of more than 23,000 people across 30 countries by Ipsos for the Halifax Security Forum finds just under half, 48% on average across 30 countries, believe the U.S. will have an overall positive influence on world affairs over the next decade.

The polling via Ipsos’ Global Advisor online platform between Sept. 19 – Oct. 3, 2025, finds that’s down 12 percentage points from our polling last year, which was done right before Trump won the election.

The proportion who think the U.S. will have a positive impact fell in 29 of 30 countries in 2025 and didn’t budge in Türkiye (40%, no change year-over-year). And even Americans are now less likely to think the U.S. will have a positive impact (68%, -9 percentage points).

trump has failed by Every. Metric. except making himself and his cohort rich. His policies are increasing the cost of living of people around the world, especially in America. If you voted for him you should feel bad and ashamed - Or you are just a dick. That 25% of the world that are just dicks. If you aren't a dick, and voted for him, you can admit now you were tricked and the price of eggs and cheese distorted your critical thinking.
(i know all trump supporters have been banned, but it would be nice to catch a passer-by.)

[En Sabah Nur]

Funny how its always a case of no longer having a country when he wants to sound as alarmist as he can. But make no mistake, they're going to do everything they can to take control of elections from here on.

[Edge-]

No 3d chess. No art of the deal. No "he has a plan."
Just lies, stupidity and incompetence.

U.S. Trade Deficit Widens Despite Trump’s Tariffs

donald said this was a super duper mega important metric and it being in the negative was bad

and he made it worse?

i just hope he and republicans don't tank our whole fucking economy

[Xath]

donald said this was a super duper mega important metric and it being in the negative was bad

and he made it worse?

i just hope he and republicans don't tank our whole fucking economy

You realize that's the intent right? The rich made out like Bandits post covid.

[alach]

donald said this was a super duper mega important metric and it being in the negative was bad

and he made it worse?

i just hope he and republicans don't tank our whole fucking economy

I'm hoping he doesn't drag the entire world down with him.
Rumors swirling China is preparing to make a play to make the yuan the world's #1 currency, and if team cheeto continue with their delusions, it might just happen.

[Edge-]

You realize that's the intent right? The rich made out like Bandits post covid.

wait you're gonna have to connect those dots for me because i don't connect "trade deficit goes up, rich get wealthier" implicitly

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I'm hoping he doesn't drag the entire world down with him.
Rumors swirling China is preparing to make a play to make the yuan the world's #1 currency, and if team cheeto continue with their delusions, it might just happen.

I'm very skeptical that the world would look to the yuan for stability as an alternative given even recent Chinese history with price manipulation on it. But I'm no expert so maybe I haven't kept up recently?

[D Luniz]

wait you're gonna have to connect those dots for me because i don't connect "trade deficit goes up, rich get wealthier" implicitly

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I'm very skeptical that the world would look to the yuan for stability as an alternative given even recent Chinese history with price manipulation on it. But I'm no expert so maybe I haven't kept up recently?

You and your neighbor are both unemployed.
You're wealthy and they are not.
They lose their house, you buy their house and then when economy recovers are now renting that house for more money, or just sell it for profits.
Now expand that concept to a national level


The euro has more of a chance of supplanted the dollar than the yuan, and that still a low low low chance.

[Edge-]

You and your neighbor are both unemployed.
You're wealthy and they are not.
They lose their house, you buy their house and then when economy recovers are now renting that house for more money, or just sell it for profits.
Now expand that concept to a national level

ok but what does that have to do with the trade deficit?

[Xath]

ok but what does that have to do with the trade deficit?

That's why they are crashing the economy the trade deficit is a result of that policy.