Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

Trump has graduated from being a "very stable genius" - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...19270631256064

To an "extremely stable genius" - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...si/1209925001/

What a guy.

[Belize]

Trump has graduated from being a "very stable genius" - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...19270631256064

To an "extremely stable genius" - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...si/1209925001/

What a guy.

And I just want everyone to know, that I am NOT a psychopath that murders people by force feeding them turtles.

[kaid]

It's almost like you can tell exactly what happened by the opposite of whatever Trump/Sanders claim.

It is his standard I am rubber you are glue defense he learned at a young age. Just project any flaw in yourself onto others as hard as you can. I'm not a puppet YOU are the puppet!

[Zan15]

Trump has graduated from being a "very stable genius" - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...19270631256064

To an "extremely stable genius" - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...si/1209925001/

What a guy.

So our stable Genius response to someone calling him "crazy" is "no you are"!

Wow such ability in that mind

[Fugus]

WH announces plans to give $16 billion to farmers hurt by the retaliation tariffs applied by China.

This would bring the total amount pledged to $28 billion, or 2.45 Trump Shutdowns, or $140 per taxpayer. Roughly. And, yes, this is American taxpayer money. China is not paying these.

If it is 28 billion and there is only an estimated 140.9 million tax payers, wouldn't that mean that each tax payer will have paid about $199 total in welfare to over this?

[cubby]

And in yet another Trump's-too-stupid-to-do-even-the-right-thing-by-accident, Cheeto tells Dems that he won't negotiate on infrastructure until all the Bad Things he no likey go away.

The article sums it up nicely:

President Trump issued an unplanned and seemingly impulsive public declaration today that he would boycott all infrastructure negotiations with Democrats unless they stop investigating his misconduct. “I walked into the room, and I told Senator Schumer, Speaker Pelosi, I want to do infrastructure, I want to do it more than you want to do it. I’d be really good at it, that’s what I do,” he said. “But you know what? You can’t do it under these circumstances. So get these phony investigations over with.”

As he has done so often, Trump is inverting the traditional pattern of behavior for his office. The usual move for a president facing investigation or impeachment is to piously declare that he is putting the nation’s business first and to urge everybody to focus on whatever policy matter is at hand. But instead, now the president is saying policy must come to a halt because of the investigations.

What’s more, his demand is completely uncategorical. Trump is not merely objecting to impeachment proceedings, which have not even begun, but to all investigations. ABC News reports aides “tried to stop him for marching to the Rose Garden for that event,” but Trump “was mad from first thing this morning,” and “comments by Speaker Pelosi pushed him over the edge.” In other words, just the kind of coolheaded strategy we have come to expect from this president.

What makes this demand especially comical is how badly he reads the incentives. Trump has always had a distorted view of the Democrats’ incentives. They may like the idea of spending money on infrastructure, but a deal would help Trump enormously — both by pumping stimulus into the economy and by allowing him to recapture the centrist deal-making identity he ran on in 2016. Trump’s unpopularity in office owes itself in large part to his heavy reliance on a traditional plutocratic Republican agenda of tax cuts for the rich, trying to repeal Obamacare, and allowing the business lobby to self-regulate.

An infrastructure deal would be a lifeline for Trump. It’s probably the one thing he could do to bump up his approval rating. So now he’s holding a gun to his own approval ratings. If Democrats don’t stop doing the thing that makes Trump less popular, he won’t do the thing that makes him more popular! And in so doing, he will rob himself of his best argument against the investigations — that they are a distraction from real work — by personally taking responsibility for the lack of any progress off Congress’s shoulders and onto his own.

The master of leverage speaks.

[Paranoid Android]

President Trump announced another $16 billion in aid to farmers hurt by his trade policies. Markets still tumbled, with the Dow off more than 300 points. https://t.co/jraLiMGnli https://t.co/vJBccPBovR

https://twitter.com/StarTribune/stat...390853632?s=19

This is pissing me off for many reasons we have all discussed.

I just want my TRANSGENDER, Muslim, SJW President to do this for the inner city or whatever just so I can say to Trumpkins 'You can't say bleep'.

[Breccia]

White House staff assures press he was "very calm" and "definitely not angry" in meeting

Trivia question: if you drop questions like "how was I acting?" out of the blue on your direct subordinates in public, and they refute you, don't you get fired on the spot? Asking them to back him up carries no credit.

Also, HAHAHHAHAHA he asked Kellyanne Conway and Sarah What He Meant Was Sanders to back him up like they tell the truth HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[draynay]

I wish they would describe more the things he didn't do or feel, like he definitely didn't kick over a flower pot, or spill his monster, or punch a hole in the drywall, he was very calm.

[Breccia]

I wish they would describe more the things he didn't do or feel, like he definitely didn't kick over a flower pot, or spill his monster, or punch a hole in the drywall, he was very calm.

I think you mean "potted plant".

But yes: Trump calling Conway and Sanders, Mrs. Alternative Facts and Ms. Admitted She Lied themselves, to back him up and call Pelosi crazy almost certainly had zero effect on the credibility of his word. We've reached the point where Trump could say the sky was blue and I would call him a liar without even looking up (staring at the sun without sunglasses is also stupid) and just play the odds I made the smart move.

Also, even if I knew nothing about anyone involved, the last time they "worked" together in public, we saw the video, it was the "Shut down the government and be proud to do it" moment where Trump was clearly more angry and agitated than anyone in the room, see also: potted plant. So with that alone, I'd still assume Trump was the liar here. The objective evidence is against him, the subjective evidence is crushing.

[Dontrike]

And in yet another Trump's-too-stupid-to-do-even-the-right-thing-by-accident, Cheeto tells Dems that he won't negotiate on infrastructure until all the Bad Things he no likey go away.

The article sums it up nicely:

The fact he thinks he is good at building infrastructure is the most asinine part of that, and that's really saying something considering he is throwing out a win-win situation just because he doesn't want Democrats to get some of the credit. He's choosing to take an F rather than an easy A.

[Breccia]

The fact he thinks he is good at building infrastructure is the most asinine part of that

Trump has intentionally chosen to have nothing to do with his own Wall, despite running on building Walls better than anyone. Then he handed it off to eight people, they all failed inspection, and now we have a makeshift fence paid for with soldier pensions.

Trump's done shit about building roads and bridges. As previously discussed, his only plan even he calls stupid, and best of my knowledge he's never built a road or bridge. So, yeah, trying to say "this is a good idea because I am a good builder" is not just objectively false but blatantly so.

[Paranoid Android]

Trump has personally and repeatedly urged the head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to award a border wall contract to a North Dakota construction firm whose top executive is a GOP donor and frequent guest on Fox News, WaPo reports. https://t.co/5fIwoQfu1u

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...605324800?s=19

Ah the corruption and abuse of this Presidency never ends.

[Breccia]

Ah the corruption and abuse of this Presidency never ends.

Question: Trump is already creating a stir by spending National Security Lol money that wasn't designated for Wall funds, for Wall funds. Is hiring external contractors legally an option here?

[Dontrike]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...605324800?s=19

Ah the corruption and abuse of this Presidency never ends.

I can't wait to see how @lockedout and kin say this is okay.

Also, why would Trump need to give out contracts? If he's the best at this, or so he claims, why not go down there himself and start telling others how to do it?

[Paranoid Android]

Question: Trump is already creating a stir by spending National Security Lol money that wasn't designated for Wall funds, for Wall funds. Is hiring external contractors legally an option here?

I mean I don't know anymore. I was going to add the funds Trump seems to have tried to obtain through some bs like the Pentagon money.

The wall is definitely becoming a corrupt 'project' from taking funds from other funding to possibly now giving out government contracts on again pure corruption.

But hey, Trumpkins don't care since the Orange leader is doing it.

[Breccia]

The numbers are in. Not only is federal revenue from income taxes down, but corporations have paid the lowest share, 7.6%, in years. Bloomberg says since 1960.

[RaoBurning]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ce/1203665001/

So I guess Trump spells at about a 7th grade level. What an achomlishment.

I work in a middle school with a pretty hard intersection of family troubles, poverty, and low funding, but I'd put money on any of them of Trump in a Spelling Bee.

[rda]

I just want my TRANSGENDER, Muslim, SJW President to do this for the inner city or whatever just so I can say to Trumpkins 'You can't say bleep'.

This is a good illustration of how crazy most of the political talk has become. Few are arguing something sane, most are yelling myopic idiocies because "the other side" supposedly also said or did something stupid. I mean, you are free to do that, but this leads nowhere at all.

[Dontrike]

but this leads nowhere at all.

Just like the Trump presidency.