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    One more down and a couple more to announce it soon hopefully. I never thought that COVID would be the thing that brought down this administration but lord help the world, it may just do it!!!

    https://news.yahoo.com/kellyanne-con...025139542.html

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    Jesus fucking Christ. Tucker Carlson just compared blaming Trump for getting covid to blaming a sexual assault victim.

    How in the fuck does this man still have a fucking platform?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelinrah View Post
    Jesus fucking Christ. Tucker Carlson just compared blaming Trump for getting covid to blaming a sexual assault victim.

    How in the fuck does this man still have a fucking platform?
    Unfortunately, many people in America need re-education training. And I'm not talking about some sort of fascist doctrine that they need to learn to follow under threat of death. I'm talking we need to increase their IQ so they can think for themselves and not have some preppy heir to the Swanson fortune struggle to think for them on live television.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    But there still the majority party and there leader becomes the leader.

    Your arguing semantics to try and worm out of what your people did.

    And also Bury your head over your rising problem with the AFD.

    Own it, Suck it up, and get rid of your new AFD nazis.

    You guys owe the world a debt you have barely even started to pay off.

    This conversation is over, its off topic and I'm not debating with some one who can't even see the problem with the AFD.
    You're still ignoring how conservative politicians who were afraid of the left got rid of checks and balances as they thought they could control Hitler. While a big part of the population was enthusiastic for Hitler, a lot of them weren't. The german population was deeply divided. Hitler wasn't elected to be supreme leader, it was a coup with the help of conservatives, to install business friendly conservative politics and get rid of the left... Somehow reminiscent of another nation right now.

    And while there is still some resentment against germans, it vastly depends on the country. The UK is not a good example for european feelings towards germany.

    And ... aren't you British? In that case i wouldn't really start with debts owed to humanity due to the past..

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    So, I had a bit of a macabre thought: A lot of MAGA cultists I've seen have argued all the COVID deaths don't really count since most of the dead were old and had comorbidities and were going to die eventually anyways. Using their logic, if Trump does end up dying from COVID, will his death not really count since he was old and had comorbidities and was going to die eventually anyways?
    Last edited by Zaydin; 2020-10-03 at 07:36 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    So, I had a bit of a macabre thought: A lot of MAGA cultists I've seen have argued all the COVID deaths don't really count since most of the dead were old and had comorbidities and were going to die eventually anyways. Using their logic, if Trump does end up dying from COVID, will his death not really count since he was old and had comorbidities and was going to die eventually anyways?
    Iirc he and Melania have already been added to Florida's COVID count since they are both officially residents of that wretched hive of scum and villainy, we must be cautious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelly View Post
    Because Fox is trash propaganda. It's also fucking hilarious how the right are clutching their pearls over "oh look at everyone else being happy he got the rona, how awful", when he has actively harmed the US people and the rest of the world with his garbage. His whiny arse followers can fuck right off.
    A tweet that barely sums it up: https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/s...37306556190721
    They try to frame it as a disagreement over politics when it's not that. It's about the real harm that Trump has done to people and the country. Trying to say this is about politics is just dishonest.

    People aren't mocking Trump getting coronavirus because they hate his tax policy or hate his foreign policy, we're mocking him because he did real harm to real people with his coronavirus denialism. And not just in America either, his bullshit hurt people all over the world as he is the leading source of coronavirus disinformation.

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    Minnesota's three Republican congressmen flew home on a Delta flight from Washington, despite airline restrictions on passengers recently exposed to COVID-19 positive people. https://t.co/nJJPNljB0F https://t.co/jElsvFvRDQ
    https://twitter.com/StarTribune/stat...374803969?s=19

    Shocking. Our asshole Republican Representatives did not give a crap about safety to others and following guidelines.
    Democrats are the best! I will never ever question a Democrat again. I LOVE the Democrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Tomorrow's headlines:

    PRESIDENT TRUMP DEAD FROM BLEACH POISONING
    Biden/Harris campaign spiked the presidents New Treatment, from the Makers of Clorox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    Imagine if the last thing he sees is Biden's smiling face. It would be darkly poetic.
    Now is when that Biden Warchest could be spent. On Fox News ads. All Fucking Day. What else is Donnie gonna do all day? Stroke out when ever 12 and a half minutes a Biden ad appears?

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    Preface: I'm not wishing death on anyone.
    With 3 weeks until I turn 42, this might be the best birthday ever.

    Side note: I may have to join a religion. Promises were made.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Well, you knew this was coming.

    Our Ruling
    Gee, it couldn’t possibly be because the GOP and Q morons purposefully turned a medical precautionary measure into a literal political mouth breathing party, could it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelinrah View Post
    Jesus fucking Christ. Tucker Carlson just compared blaming Trump for getting covid to blaming a sexual assault victim.

    How in the fuck does this man still have a fucking platform?
    Remember, legally no one sane takes Tucker Carlson seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelinrah View Post
    Jesus fucking Christ. Tucker Carlson just compared blaming Trump for getting covid to blaming a sexual assault victim.

    How in the fuck does this man still have a fucking platform?
    That's easy, he panders to white supremacists. It's rather profitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinastorm View Post
    Voting really just needs to be mandatory. Solves this problem of why should I bother, AND makes our democracy actually representative. I don't understand why this isn't talked about more. At least on the left, cause of course the right wants to continue minority rule as long as they can.
    you can force people to vote but you can't force them to make an informed vote. if someone doesn't vote it should just be counted as a null vote that lets all sides know that they're not managing to convince these people that there's somebody worth voting for
    a lot of people are very jaded about politics these days, there's been far too many unfulfilled promises, revelations of corruption (not to mention getting away with it) and bigotry and none of the politicians seem to be considering what they can do to reassure people that their promises hold more value than all those previous ones. hell, a large part of the people who originally supported trump claimed to be doing so because he wasn't a politician (he's proved to be at least as corrupt and untrustworthy as them though) and they were 'protesting the system' or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    And ... aren't you British? In that case i wouldn't really start with debts owed to humanity due to the past..
    I’ve pointed this out in a very similar argument about US. His fingers can only point in one direction.
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    So...Why isn't Donny being treated with the BS drug he has been pushing the entire pandemic?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azadina View Post
    So...Why isn't Donny being treated with the BS drug he has been pushing the entire pandemic?
    Because he is being treated by doctors, not politicians.

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    If... god forbid, as I said many times, him dying would be the worst... but, if he or members of his team die. Do we get to remove a few numbers from those ‘socialist killed X’ memes? You know... since if he listened to the socialist, communist, crazy antifa, they wouldn’t be sick? Does that work that way or do they get added to the capitalism memes? I’m old, not sure on the process of having those memes updated...

    Last edited by Felya; 2020-10-03 at 01:14 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Because he is being treated by doctors, not politicians.
    It was certain sorts of doctors who wrote BS to let him skip draft. Not to mention NK style propaganda of him having super genes that could have made him live to 200, and all that. Why isn't he receiving that sort of care, instead of the sort he has never supported?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epigramx View Post
    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

  17. #56097
    Republican Senator Ron Johnson has just tested positive for COVID (although unlike the others, he wasn't at Amy Coney Barrett's nomination last week).

    Maybe the GOP should take this as a sign from above that this abomination of a nomination shall not come to pass.
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    "I don't take responsibility at all."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    It doesn't, as the Late Republican period in Rome demonstrates.

    Also, every time someone usurps a throne by inspiring a peasant uprising? That's populism.



    This really stinks of an "end of history" viewpoint wherein democratic government is the natural state of things.

    No, hun, Greeks did not "fall into tyranny" - oligarchy and despotism were the norm insofar as government in Classical Greece, with "democracy" being a minority form of government and not particularly democratic at all considering the only people who were voting were propertied male citizens of age.

    Please stop butchering my people's history to fit your narrative.



    Fairly sure they did that because they were men of property looking out for their own interests which democratic government might threaten.

    Said interests primarily having to do with their ability to own other people as property and exploit them for profit. So no - the idea that democracy is this beast that must be guarded against is in fact bougie propaganda.
    Its not boogie properganda, its the foundation of the modern idea of republics, and as republics have lasted far longer than any true democracy has id say there onto something.

    The rights of the individual should always be protected from the will of the people and the malevolence of the state. other wise rights are nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    You're still ignoring how conservative politicians who were afraid of the left got rid of checks and balances as they thought they could control Hitler. While a big part of the population was enthusiastic for Hitler, a lot of them weren't. The german population was deeply divided. Hitler wasn't elected to be supreme leader, it was a coup with the help of conservatives, to install business friendly conservative politics and get rid of the left... Somehow reminiscent of another nation right now.

    And while there is still some resentment against germans, it vastly depends on the country. The UK is not a good example for european feelings towards germany.

    And ... aren't you British? In that case i wouldn't really start with debts owed to humanity due to the past..
    The French, Belgians and Polish have similar feelings about Germany.

    I don't know where the idea of conservatives awarding power to nazis came from, I don't like conservatives but this was the make up of the german parliament when Hitler took power


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