1. #19421
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashnazg View Post
    What is this in reference to? If its the Mueller report, then 1? So far it looks like its nothing but a slam dunk win for him where it actually matters - his electorate.
    You mean his base? Which isn't enough to get him re-elected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VGAddict View Post
    On a scale of 1-10, how fucked is Trump?
    Four point two.

    The Mueller report won't make a dent in that -- everyone already made up their mind, plus this is the wrong thread -- but the Q1 numbers won't be his best friend, and it's planting season (now/shortly) and farmers don't have their money they were promised. There's also no sign of NAFTA 1.0.0.2, no sign of Infrastructure Week 5: (Nazi/KKK theme name still under construction), the tax cut for the rich is having the opposite effects that were promised, no signs of election fraud, no signs of a Middle East plan (let alone one that will get the Palestinians on board), he's still coddling Saudi Arabia and North Korea, National Security Lol is scheduled to make maybe 30 miles of Wall by year's end if the courts don't stop it, he has an unPresidented number of I Don't Exist at the White House and it's possible (I don't think likely) that Kushner will be kicked out of the White House.

    Trump's base is filled with people who refuse to admit Trump's inability to provide that which he promised, but that's 30% or so of his 42% at the polls. He can and will drop some this year, barring a miracle such as war with Iran, with 38%-40% seeming realistic when the Stone/Assange news returns to the headlines in November.

    But bear in mind, just like in 2016, Trump's rabid fanbase is lying to the pollsters. Last time, they were afraid to admit they were going to vote for Trump. This time, they'll be afraid to admit they aren't. If current trends continue (i.e. no miracle happens), a fair proportion of people who claim to be Trump voters will actually stay at home, demoralized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VGAddict View Post
    On a scale of 1-10, how fucked is Trump?
    I think he's pretty fucked. This is really just the beginning of the bad news. And now we have so many more investigations going on that are going to continue to hinder him and make headlines, and the scandals won't end. He will continue to be inept at his job, that he cant get anything done which will not help him make pitches on policy with his re-election bid. I mean his presidency has already been a disaster, it's not gonna get any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VGAddict View Post
    On a scale of 1-10, how fucked is Trump?
    If he doesn't win reelection he will be immediately indicted, and one can only guess how many of the 12 sealed criminal cases referred by Mueller involve Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratt View Post
    If he doesn't win reelection he will be immediately indicted
    It's actually funnier than that. Yes, the statute of limitations is a real thing and Trump is likely concerned about it. If he was delivering on his promises, this wouldn't be as big of a problem.

    But.

    Trump at least pretended to divest from his businesses. SDNY and NYState can charge whoever the hell they want, since Trump's resistance to criminal prosecution won't help any of his employees. Depending on what they find (illegal Russian laundered money), Trump's businesses could take a major hit, being forced to pay fines with money they don't have. Trump might actually go bankrupt a seventh time despite not being in charge. Which would be yet another new record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    It's actually funnier than that. Yes, the statute of limitations is a real thing and Trump is likely concerned about it. If he was delivering on his promises, this wouldn't be as big of a problem.

    But.

    Trump at least pretended to divest from his businesses. SDNY and NYState can charge whoever the hell they want, since Trump's resistance to criminal prosecution won't help any of his employees. Depending on what they find (illegal Russian laundered money), Trump's businesses could take a major hit, being forced to pay fines with money they don't have. Trump might actually go bankrupt a seventh time despite not being in charge. Which would be yet another new record.
    Oh man. Outstanding.

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    https://www.axios.com/gop-congressma...5874a5127.html

    Anyone remember former White house aide Darren Beattie? Remember, the guy who attended a white supremacist conference in 2016 and was let go when the came to light? - https://www.axios.com/darren-beattie...20e6de757.html

    Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) announced on Friday that he hired a former White House aide, Darren Beattie, who was let go after his ties to white nationalists were revealed last year.
    Yeah, Matt Gaetz, who himself has ties to white supremacists including inviting one to the SOTU (bonus points, he's a holocaust denier) and hanging out with the white supremacist Proud Boys, picked this guy up, unsurprisingly.

    It's harder and harder not to view the Republican party as the party of white supremacists given how often they cozy up to those assholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    and remember, not even a full month ago Trump was calling Mueller "honorable" and other praise

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    I think he's pretty fucked. This is really just the beginning of the bad news. And now we have so many more investigations going on that are going to continue to hinder him and make headlines, and the scandals won't end. He will continue to be inept at his job, that he cant get anything done which will not help him make pitches on policy with his re-election bid. I mean his presidency has already been a disaster, it's not gonna get any better.
    and add in that people that did at least knew how to do the job, but were corrupt are all running for the door to avoid incoming ethics investigations, just leaving the people that both dont know how to do the job AND are corrupt

    so expect that volume of failure to accelerate

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    What you found out about Trump was he tried his hardest to get information from Russian contacts and obstruct as much as he can but most of his subordinates chose not to carry his orders or were incompetent.

    So yes, this reinforces that Trump either is a moron, has attention span of a gnat or has dementia. He seemed to be all over the place with his orders and when people just didn't go through with his orders it look like he forgot about.

    I believe we had stories that confirm this with Kelly or Mattis, who did the same thing where Trump gave an order and they didn't act and Trump completely forgot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    The president of the United States of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    The president of the United States of America.
    Here I thought it could not get any worse than Bill Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Here I thought it could not get any worse than Bill Clinton.
    Speaking of Clinton, let's talk about fundraising.

    In a striking reversal from previous elections, small-dollar donors are providing most of the early money to Democrats seeking the presidency -- as candidates seek to capitalize on the energy of their party's activist base and build a grassroots foundation to sustain them for the long primary slog.

    More than half -- nearly 55% -- of the individual contributions to Democrats during the January-to-March fundraising period came in amounts of $200 or less, a CNN tally of new campaign finance reports shows. By comparison, small-dollar contributions accounted for just 30% of the money Democrats raised in the early months of the 2016 presidential campaign, according to the nonpartisan Campaign Finance Institute.
    In deference to our dear banned Skroe, I'll reiterate his assessment of what made the Obama campaign so effective - building an effective base of digital fundraising. That the Democratic candidates have such a surge of grassroots support should be indicative.

    It would seem as though something has motivated a large chunk of potential Democratic voters. Whoops.

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  13. #19433
    Remember the MIGRANT INVASION and how the government wants to send folks to sanctuary cities because they don't have space? And how they don't have space to house families which is why they were kidnapping kids (and have wanted to start kidnapping kids again)?

    https://apnews.com/ad5ff0b5fd564b5c9182a56ed8af5e3e

    President Donald Trump has warned that Central American families are staging an “invasion” at the U.S.-Mexico border. He has threatened to take migrants to Democratic strongholds to punish political opponents. And his administration regularly complains about having to “catch and release” migrants.

    At the same time, his administration has stopped using one of three family detention centers to hold parents and children and left almost 2,000 beds unused at the other two. It says it does not have the resources to transport migrants to the centers.

    Immigrant advocates accuse the administration of closing off family detention to further the perception of a crisis.

    The Karnes County Residential Center in Texas used to hold up to 800 parents and children at a time, who would usually be detained before an initial screening to judge whether they qualified for asylum.

    But ICE last month started to release families until they were all gone from Karnes. Advocates who work there say ICE is now restricting legal access to the roughly 400 adult women being detained there.

    The population at the family detention center in nearby Dilley, Texas, was also reduced and remains at roughly a quarter of its 2,400-person capacity. A 96-person facility in Pennsylvania had only 18 immigrants this week.

    Meanwhile, the numbers of parents and children crossing the U.S.-Mexico border have surged, leading immigration officials to declare the situation a crisis. More than 50,000 parents and children were apprehended by the Border Patrol in March, setting a monthly record.

    The number of border crossings in one day sometimes exceeds ICE’s total family detention space.

    More than 4,800 people crossed the border in a single day this week. Almost 1,000 were traveling in three large groups, the largest of which was 375 people, Kevin McAleenan, the acting secretary of homeland security, said Wednesday.

    The Border Patrol has stopped referring many families to ICE and instead releases them directly to nonprofit groups or drops them off at bus stations.

    In a statement, ICE said the surge left it “overwhelmed” and unable to transport families from the border to the Karnes and Dilley facilities, even if both detention centers had available beds. As of Wednesday, 427 women were in custody at Karnes.

    “As such, ICE has determined that, at this time, Karnes will better meet operational needs by also serving partially as an adult detention facility,” the agency said.

    Immigrant advocates say they do not believe that ICE cannot transport people to the facilities. They say the government has reduced family detention space for political reasons — to show that Democrats’ refusal to change laws to allow for longer family detention and more deportations has left officials with no choice but to catch and release.

    “We believe that this is part of trying to justify a narrative,” said Peter Schey, executive director of the Center for Human Rights and Constitutional Law. “Trump’s policies have swung from one extreme to the other. There’s no consistency; there’s no strategic planning.”

    The legal services group RAICES goes to Karnes daily to consult with detained immigrants about their asylum cases. The group says subtle policy changes at the facility have reduced legal access for detained women seeking asylum.

    Since Monday, authorities at Karnes have prevented attorneys and volunteers from meeting with many large groups of migrants at once, which prevents them from quickly consulting with more people, according to Andrea Meza, RAICES’ director of family detention services.

    Karnes staff also stopped sending RAICES the names of detainees who put their names on sign-up sheets outside the visitation room, Meza said.

    Meza said she received conflicting explanations from ICE for the changes, including that there were complaints by staff from the private contractor GEO Group, which operates Karnes.

    ICE confirmed it had reduced group meetings at Karnes because “more residents are represented by private attorneys.” The agency said it provided 12 hours of legal visitation at Karnes every day, more than its detention standards require.

    If the changes remain in place, fewer people will be able to consult with a lawyer before asylum interviews, Meza said, and it will be harder for the group to follow up with potential asylum seekers.

    “We don’t know what’s happening to people after their interviews,” she said.
    There's more space, the administration is just choosing not to use it.

    This administration hates brown people. No matter which of the three Mexican countries they're from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    The president of the United States of America.
    I guess mental imbalance is the way through this mess. I'm not sure how anyone is going to claim they were "duped" though. His insanity knows no bounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Here I thought it could not get any worse than Bill Clinton.
    The whole episode with Bill Clinton was entirely the GOP's fault. Bad actor or not, the GOP took the Presidency down a notch.
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    Holy shit, 9 hours later he finishes it!
    ....big, fat, waste of time, energy and money - $30,000,000 to be exact. It is now finally time to turn the tables and bring justice to some very sick and dangerous people who have committed very serious crimes, perhaps even Spying or Treason. This should never happen again!

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    turn the tables and bring justice
    These two things seem incompatible...

  17. #19437
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Holy shit, 9 hours later he finishes it!
    Totally exonerated guys ...

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    Wonder how many dozens of times Trump typed out the rest of that tweet thinking he was totally covering his ass, but then deleted at the last second and started all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Can you imagine how fucking stupid you must be to keep following and believing this wannabe daughter fucker?
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    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.axios.com/gop-congressma...5874a5127.html

    Anyone remember former White house aide Darren Beattie? Remember, the guy who attended a white supremacist conference in 2016 and was let go when the came to light? - https://www.axios.com/darren-beattie...20e6de757.html



    Yeah, Matt Gaetz, who himself has ties to white supremacists including inviting one to the SOTU (bonus points, he's a holocaust denier) and hanging out with the white supremacist Proud Boys, picked this guy up, unsurprisingly.

    It's harder and harder not to view the Republican party as the party of white supremacists given how often they cozy up to those assholes.
    This is why Sarah Huckabee will find a job (likely six figure plus) and Steven Miller will find a job. We all wrote on how these people accepted jobs with Trump for power and better, more paying jobs in the future.

    Zinke joins the board of Nevada-based U.S. Gold Corp.

    "I am confident that my prior experience can add tremendous value to the company," Zinke said. "I am excited to work closely with management and the Board to help make mining great again in America." https://t.co/GL9fXLTzDK
    Speaking of @Edge.

    So yes, Zinke was going to get a job because he was a hack for businesses to pillage our natural resources. But the amazing part was he was corrupted in our government and this company sees that as no big deal.
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