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  1. #741
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    The point isn't NEEDING a mount. the point is I can't even have one without an expansion. So I just haven't gone back to the game because that's some bull shit.
    Every expansion adds new mechanics and features exclusive to the expansion. Is this your fist MMO expansion?

  2. #742
    The mount system, i just couldnt get the hang of it... rest was fine for me tbh

  3. #743
    Came back half a year ago and got both expansions during the anniversary sale. I had two expansions worth of unpopulated zones ahead of me. The ridiculously in your face sjw writing that me drop the game when the living story got started about 2 years after release is still there.
    I played a bit of both expansions. The raptor mount is neat. Lion's arch was ruined to push sales of their vip subsciption teleport + convenience hubs. WvW is still fun but repetitive. There is still no motivation (i.e., gear treadmill) to play PvE. The game is janky and ageing badly due to Dx9. There is still no official dps measuring addon support.
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  4. #744
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    I can't afford the mount expansion and I think it's bullshit you can't have a mount without it.
    It's how you earn them. The mounts are earned and can only be purchased within the zones for that expansion.

    As others have said, the mounts are a feature of that expansion so it makes sense you'd need it to gain access to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    Honestly, I think a lot of older players were put off by the move to the expansion model period.

    A lot of us went through a pretty long period of the announcements, development phases, beta, release, and a significant period of Live being told that it wasn't going to happen, that B2P was the final model, that LS in its initial form would be the content pipeline.

    When that started to change it was perfectly understandable from a business perspective, it was hard for me to fault them for it. At the same time, old/returning players being put off by it immediately is also understandable, really.
    I'm not sure what you mean by "expansion model." I can't really think of any game that allows you to pay one price up front and have access to every feature, expansion, DLC etc.. that they release forever as long as that game keeps making new content. That's not a sustainable business model.

    B2P simply means you have access to everything that comes with the box. An expansion is an extension of that and you only gain access to it once you purchase it. Outside of that box price there are no additional fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowroxxor View Post
    Came back half a year ago and got both expansions during the anniversary sale. I had two expansions worth of unpopulated zones ahead of me. The ridiculously in your face sjw writing that me drop the game when the living story got started about 2 years after release is still there.
    I played a bit of both expansions. The raptor mount is neat. Lion's arch was ruined to push sales of their vip subsciption teleport + convenience hubs. WvW is still fun but repetitive. There is still no motivation (i.e., gear treadmill) to play PvE. The game is janky and ageing badly due to Dx9. There is still no official dps measuring addon support.
    What specifically are you referring to? Because I'm not really seeing anything overtly "SJW" and am playing through the Living Story of the Path of Fire Expansion.

  5. #745
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    Not sure what you're trying to disagree with here. ANet originally presented the game in exactly the way I described. It's exactly how the game was for quite some time, in fact.

    Also like I said, they changed it eventually, for reasons I can understand. But I can also understand why returning people might be put off by it.
    I don't remember, and can't find in a relatively short search, that they announced or presented GW2 never having paid expansions. I could be wrong.

    I find it highly doubtful that's something they would ever say and commit to. That kind of business model would be a death sentence for an MMO.

    Maybe they said something that was interpreted that way, but that's not what it actually meant?

  6. #746
    I gave it so many chances already but i came to realise that despite loving GW1 and the world, and i will admit that meta events are awesome, i just don't like the game. I don't like the combat, i dont like how the game is unwelcoming, the amount of trash items, the F2P restrictions made for you to spend money and the lack of trinity.
    I tried so hard and still have it installed, but i am so tired of it. It has magical moments, but it's so boring.

    I'm at the point where i would like to see Cantha, but i don't see how it will be any different than all the other maps. Events, meta event, sloppy combat, contless new trash items and collections. I just don't want anymore. I haven't even finished the icebrood saga. I lost interest.

    I really want a GW3, sub based, trinity, combat more like GW1, gear progression, raids, dungeons.
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  7. #747
    Had blast leveling up but once I hit max level, the max level contents just doesn't seem interesting enough to hold me.

  8. #748
    I can't believe they are going to release a new expansion soon and the game is still poorly optimised for multicore machines. It really makes me stop enjoying the game and checking it's content

  9. #749
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTJames View Post
    Had blast leveling up but once I hit max level, the max level contents just doesn't seem interesting enough to hold me.
    For me, the same issue. Had some fun leveling different classes and trying different weapon styles, did some crafting, occasionally did some world boss rotations. That's not enough to keep me there on a longer term.
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    The fun factor would go up 1000x if WQs existed in vanilla

  10. #750
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    Honestly, I think a lot of older players were put off by the move to the expansion model period.
    ...but why? They never said they wouldn't be doing expansions, and they'd long since set the precedent with GW1 expansions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    A lot of us went through a pretty long period of the announcements, development phases, beta, release, and a significant period of Live being told that it wasn't going to happen, that B2P was the final model, that LS in its initial form would be the content pipeline.
    I don't think they ever said this, actually. And I worked on the game for a while pre-launch. It having expansions doesn't make it "not" B2P. It still technically is, though it's got the F2P base option now too. The LS updates would be delivered in between expansions. That was always the public plan as far as I remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    When that started to change it was perfectly understandable from a business perspective, it was hard for me to fault them for it. At the same time, old/returning players being put off by it immediately is also understandable, really.
    I don't know of any GW2 player who had played GW1 who didn't expect expansions.

    It's definitely not in the Manifesto, so if you got a link sling it over.

  11. #751
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    I don't remember, and can't find in a relatively short search, that they announced or presented GW2 never having paid expansions. I could be wrong.

    I find it highly doubtful that's something they would ever say and commit to. That kind of business model would be a death sentence for an MMO.

    Maybe they said something that was interpreted that way, but that's not what it actually meant?
    The game was definitely released and pitched as B2P that would have free content updates. It was one of the big draws of the game initially as people were getting tired of a $15/mo subscription. It was a big reason that my friend group decided to play on release.
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  12. #752
    I remembered why I havnt gone back now - no oceanic servers = horrible ping. Obviously they wont be adding any, so thats that for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrsftw View Post
    The game was definitely released and pitched as B2P that would have free content updates. It was one of the big draws of the game initially as people were getting tired of a $15/mo subscription.
    It is B2P, and it does have free content updates.

  13. #753
    Quote Originally Posted by Lotus Victoria View Post
    Greetings champions, good to see you, as always.

    This is a question for those who do not play Guild Wars 2 - either people that have already played it, or those who didn't try the game yet and lack something to try it.

    What's preventing you from coming back or playing this game?
    Terrible Customer support infrastructure, as well as just hands down Terrible Customer support. Wanted my old acc back, but lost the password. contacted them 3 times over the past many years

    1st time I got a relatively timely response, of just over 1 week. which obviously kills the hype as we're a grp of friends wanting to play together. they requested that I gave them some sort of Game ID, which is simply not there on my pre-purchase email. they claimed I would be unable to prove im the acc holder then, although I offered many different solutions (picture proof of the Credit card used for the initial purchase for example)

    2nd time it was the same, with a 15 day response time.

    3rd time I honestly didnt know how long it took, so just went to look. Got a response 2 months after my ticket. where they actually offered other solutions, too bad I never read that email cuz I stopped caring after waiting 8 weeks.

    Only quit cuz we ran out of content in the first place, and my friend grp wasnt too keen on PVP, and WvWvW was super fun, but doing that for X amount of hours a day while not liking most of the communities tied to it, at the time atleast due to their weird behaviour (Screaming, weird/bad tactics or leaders, screaming, and un-funny racist shit... while screaming. I love me a good racist joke, even love me some random N words with comedic timing, but its just cringe when ur not funny, and u just do the xD im so random screaming N***er every 2 minutes)

    Been wanting to do some Gw2 quite frequently but cant even be arsed trying to contact them anymore, one other guy in my group has the exact same issue, hence why we never play.

  14. #754
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    I remembered why I havnt gone back now - no oceanic servers = horrible ping. Obviously they wont be adding any, so thats that for me.

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    It is B2P, and it does have free content updates.
    Right, but it seems like most of the actual content is tied to expansions now, which wasn't what they lead the player base to believe initially at least. I haven't really played in a long time, but the assumption from everyone I know that played the game on release was that they would come out with new raids, zones, pvp areas, etc. for free on a semi-regular basis. Is this still the case? Or are these type of content updates saved for expasions?

  15. #755
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    ...but why? They never said they wouldn't be doing expansions, and they'd long since set the precedent with GW1 expansions.



    I don't think they ever said this, actually. And I worked on the game for a while pre-launch. It having expansions doesn't make it "not" B2P. It still technically is, though it's got the F2P base option now too. The LS updates would be delivered in between expansions. That was always the public plan as far as I remember.



    I don't know of any GW2 player who had played GW1 who didn't expect expansions.

    It's definitely not in the Manifesto, so if you got a link sling it over.
    I played GW1, although not all that much, Dont remember them explicitly saying that they would not add paid expansions. but I remember it being implicit. asked some of the guys from my grp who dove into Gw2 (only 1 of them also played Gw1, the other 5 had not) and they seem to remember it atleast being implicit, some even claim it was said explicitly, but couldnt find proof (only looked for like 5 minutes) none of us really care either tbf, most of us even wanted them to make it a Sub if it meant more budget for development as we quit due to lack of content (this was before fractals etc)

  16. #756
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post


    In fairness though, they are pretty reasonable about the pricing for new players.
    Yeah, i was confused when looking but it seems its $29usd for everything? The more expensive versions are just added fluff from what i could see.

  17. #757
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    Yeah, i was confused when looking but it seems its $29usd for everything? The more expensive versions are just added fluff from what i could see.
    That does not include any of the living story episodes.
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    yeh but lava is just very hot water

  18. #758
    Quote Originally Posted by vian View Post
    That does not include any of the living story episodes.
    Correct, but those can be purchased in game right? and they ARE free while current? I could be mistaken, that was my understanding though.

  19. #759
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    Correct, but those can be purchased in game right? and they ARE free while current? I could be mistaken, that was my understanding though.
    As long as you log in while they are active you get them for free. You only have to purchase ones you hadn't logged in during if you wanna do them.

  20. #760
    0 progression

    What the is the point of gearing up if a geared player is still as easily killed by mobs as a fresh 80

    Also combat. Came to the battle where you fight Balthazars female commander or whatever. Really fun to brainlessly mash buttons for 20 minutes

    Certain mounts are also locked behind pay walled story chapters? Like I get its not subscription but it has a pretty extensive cash shop and ESO doesen’t pull this BS. Or well they do but if you subscribe you get everything
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