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  1. #781
    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Sounds like you want WoW in a GW setting

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    Unfortunately I don't think Anet makes the system clear to a lot of players.

    Like how you still unlock the content on a F2P account in case you buy into the game later, how you can buy the episodes for gold (and a fairly low amount), or how you only need to login once between the 2-4 months the content is free to add it to your account...

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    ESO pulls worst for being a "B2P" game. The paywall you're talking about is probably 200g in game, tops.
    It's the formula that works. It's not only WoW that uses it.

  2. #782
    For me the game always was only leveling and exploring since the group PvE loop is shit, so i'll be back when I feel there is enough new to explore.

  3. #783
    Quote Originally Posted by barrsftw View Post
    The game was definitely released and pitched as B2P that would have free content updates. It was one of the big draws of the game initially as people were getting tired of a $15/mo subscription. It was a big reason that my friend group decided to play on release.
    Being B2P with no subscription does not mean there will never be a paid expansion. It's never meant that, for any game.

  4. #784
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Every expansion adds new mechanics and features exclusive to the expansion. Is this your fist MMO expansion?
    Mounts shouldn't locked behind a paywall. It's stupid as fuck.

  5. #785
    Quote Originally Posted by Swnem View Post
    I gave it so many chances already but i came to realise that despite loving GW1 and the world, and i will admit that meta events are awesome, i just don't like the game. I don't like the combat, i dont like how the game is unwelcoming, the amount of trash items, the F2P restrictions made for you to spend money and the lack of trinity.
    I tried so hard and still have it installed, but i am so tired of it. It has magical moments, but it's so boring.

    I'm at the point where i would like to see Cantha, but i don't see how it will be any different than all the other maps. Events, meta event, sloppy combat, contless new trash items and collections. I just don't want anymore. I haven't even finished the icebrood saga. I lost interest.

    I really want a GW3, sub based, trinity, combat more like GW1, gear progression, raids, dungeons.
    So you want Anet to make WoW and dictate the endgame for you

  6. #786
    Quote Originally Posted by Theangryone View Post
    So you want Anet to make WoW and dictate the endgame for you
    I don't know why people do this in every MMO discussion as soon as someone says they don't like something.

    No one asked for WoW. Responding to negative opinions with, "You just want WoW!" just makes people look like unreasonable fanatics who don't have much to say about the game other than it not being WoW.

  7. #787
    You can like something or not, but when you start talking about the trinity, subs, and vertical progression that’s WoW and GW2 is better off being it’s own thing.

  8. #788
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    I don't want to start ANOTHER MMO. I've already been switching off and on between WoW, ESO, FF14, Runescape, and Genshin. I have no desire to add another MMO to the list. If I'm going to find another game it has to be a game that actually has an "end", or is just for multiplayer fun.

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    I bought it back before any expansions were released....I just never got very into it. the few abilities with weapon swapping just wasn't particularly interesting to me
    #WithoutRespectWeReject

  10. #790
    With the lack of gear treadmill or Trinity I quickly lose interest after hitting max level think I have enough birthday boosts to have every class at max level now.

  11. #791
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    Mounts shouldn't locked behind a paywall. It's stupid as fuck.
    The base game wasn't designed with mounts in mind and has teleport waypoints all over the place. The only place that "requires" mounts is the expansion you get them in and they are disabled in many areas in the base game/instances whatnot. Gliding is also an expansion feature and isn't necessary in the base game.


    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    I don't want to start ANOTHER MMO. I've already been switching off and on between WoW, ESO, FF14, Runescape, and Genshin. I have no desire to add another MMO to the list. If I'm going to find another game it has to be a game that actually has an "end", or is just for multiplayer fun.
    The end in GW2 is when ever you get tired of the story. The gear you got 10 years ago is still relevant today which is nice if you wanna drop the game for years at a time. And the living world stuff isn't required for content so if you didn't log in to unlock it at the time you don't have to worry about buying it if you don't want to.
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  12. #792
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post

    It's basically just expansions now.

    In fairness though, they are pretty reasonable about the pricing for new players.
    I agree 100%. I don't have any problem with it, and honestly even with content being locked behind expansions it's still an INSANE amount of content for your money.

  13. #793
    Quote Originally Posted by Swnem View Post
    It's the formula that works. It's not only WoW that uses it.
    Yeah, it worked well in EQ2, SWTOR, RIFT, WAR, LOTRO, Archeage. All the most successful MMOs we still play.
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Looking for Raid.
    They never found one though

  14. #794
    Quote Originally Posted by Rogalicus View Post
    Yeah, it worked well in EQ2, SWTOR, RIFT, WAR, LOTRO, Archeage. All the most successful MMOs we still play.
    Sure, and it works for WoW, FFXIV and TESO, the most sucessful MMO's we all still play.

    Want to try again? I still play SWTOR btw and it's hugely sucessful having made more than a billion dollars with the formula and fame you diss. Lotro and everquest were big in their day.
    War and Rift are the only ones you can point at being failed mmo's, which by no means proves the formula wrong, but the execution.

  15. #795
    I want to revert the narrative of this topic since it is the most viewed one and the most active one in this subforum, but in this forum altogether.

    I absolutely adore GW2.

    At times, I am an impulsive buyer but most of the times i am not. I think on March i bought the two expansions of GW2 (since i had the base game since launch but i have not played it back then due to me being hooked on WoW) and at that time i was already playing ffxiv and WoW. At that point i had already spent going through the absolute mess ffxiv of lvling process had, even though the story at times was very good and enjoyable, but once i dinged 80 i quitted shortly after and WoW has the usual issues that everyone knows by now and are greatly magnified if you are playing for many years and since the beginning.

    I ditched all my old chars and started a new Revenant that i later found that it was not in the base game. The combat grabbed me immediately and it was only getting better the more i leveled. But not only that. I really liked the multiple trees of passive talents that you could invest your talent points, the swapping of Weapons on the fly, the fact that i had gr8 heal, gr8 cc, gr8 survivability, gr8 utilities but still the world was dangerous all the time.

    I absolutely love the fact i don't have to pay monthly subscription and i find it ridiculous that people say sth is behind a paywall. Nothing is behind anything. I have finished the base game, then proceeded to Path of Fire where i got three mounts by just following the campaign, then i got the glide attribute by going back and progressing Heart of Thorns. All these, free, by just playing the base game and having acquired very good gear along the way as well.

    I also lost focus when i reached 80 and finished both base HoT and PoF and i had not logged for a while, due to Shadowlands launch as well, but a few weeks ago i revisited and i said wth and i invested some more money (i think 50 euros) and i got a ton of cool things along with extra campaigns to pursue. I am still quite lost, have not done any PvP (an attribute that i absolutely love in any game and i am sure that i would love here in gw2), have not done any fractals (which from the videos and twitch channels i am following i absolutely adore what i see), i have not done any raids (which i also adore).

    Tbh gw2, for me, seems the closest of how i want an mmo to be and play, than any other in the market currently is and i am pretty sure that i have played almost all for at least a month!

    Cheers! Thanks for reading my wall of text !

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    What preventing me? My memory because i trully forgot about this game for years. Havent played for a long time and im sure ill never back to it. WoW forever <3 I dont like design in GW models world etc are just meh. Technicly graphic is good but naaah.
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  17. #797
    I loved gw2 years ago, but I'm now playing wow actively (and loving it) and don't have enough time to dive into another game

  18. #798
    Quote Originally Posted by Swnem View Post
    Sure, and it works for WoW, FFXIV and TESO, the most sucessful MMO's we all still play.
    So you've cherrypicked two examples (TESO is not p2p btw) and decided that this means that formula works, despite dozens of failed attempts, which indicate that maybe those two were anomalies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swnem View Post
    Want to try again? I still play SWTOR btw and it's hugely sucessful having made more than a billion dollars with the formula and fame you diss. Lotro and everquest were big in their day.
    War and Rift are the only ones you can point at being failed mmo's, which by no means proves the formula wrong, but the execution.
    I play SWTOR too, it doesn't suddenly change the fact that the game collapsed from 200 servers to only 5 and nowadays is maintained by skeleton crew of dozen or so devs.
    LOTRO never was big. There is a niche market for it and that's only reason why it's still around (arguably it's the same for SWTOR).
    EQ2 was a failure since day 1 and nowadays has far smaller population than the first game.
    Note that I've only mentioned relatively high profile projects, there were tons more, all with the same fate.
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Looking for Raid.
    They never found one though

  19. #799
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    Mounts shouldn't locked behind a paywall. It's stupid as fuck.
    Mounts are an optional expansion level system. They're not required except to do some of that specific expansion content. They make other things easier, sure, but they're not mandatory.

    It's like not having Thorgast because you didn't buy Shadowlands...like no freakin duh.

  20. #800
    I log in every few months, get stuck on the main quest as I travel around the area, and everywhere I go, it appears I need a different mount or whatever, so I end up killing the endless spawns of monsters for fun, and then I just log off again.

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