What's preventing you from coming back to/playing Guild Wars 2?

[Piene]

Too many other games to play at the moment. Also: No friends left in GW2 to raid, while I still have tons of people to play WoW with. :/

[Deleted]

Preordered the Guild Wars 1 CE (with the flimsy headset) and was thoroghly disappointed back then. Nice looking, but mediocre game and childish community. YMMV.

Didn't play the newer till it went f2p, levelled only to ~20 or so and decided if I wanted to invest time in an MMO, I would rather go back to SWtoR. Again it's not bad, it's meh.

[Polybius]

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Eh. Just picked it up again after a few years and their world content makes up for raiding. I can't recall a time when WoW had guild puzzles and dynamic micro events that scaled to anyone. The only thing that comes close is the pre-Legion invasion -- and Invasion Points, but those are locked to one area in endgame content. GW2 exploration and puzzles beat WoW by a mile. Content overall is generally the same.

WoW has an edge in replay value, group content, and gameplay. But not everything else. In any game, grinding as the end-all becomes a tedious chore.

[Deleted]

Too expensive and time-consuming to consider returning. 125g to my name and barely any inventory or bank space. Don't even know where I'd begin, as I quit long before HoT came out. $100 wouldn't even get me out of the ditch, nor would I pay that sort of price to see if I'd even like to return.

Time consuming, sure. It's a vast game.

But expensive?! Dude, i have about 120g for weeks now. I managed to max out 2 crafts and got other 2 to 400.

The place to begin is to continue the story and just enjoy playing the game. You will get the mats and the gold you need simply by playing the game in any facet you enjoy. Though i would recommend getting the expansions as they add alot of important things. Besides HoT is totally worth it for Auric Basin alone. They would cost you 50 at worst.

So, it's just wether you want to play it, and it's fine if you don't. But you certainly don't need 100$.


The problem i see in these forums is that most are WoW players naturally, but they have been spoiled by the WoW constantly advancing meta. They feel they need to gear up in one week and that they should rush it all to get there.
GW2 is not best played like that. GW2 is a game you play to just have fun doing whatever you like best in it. Everything else just comes naturally. It's very frustrating and overwhelming if you try to rush it.

Something else i see is people saying they are 4 years behind. That is simply not true. Masteries are not required. They help. You can probably max them out in 4 months (or less) of casual play. No need for 4 years. Also, the gear didn't progress, so the gear you had back then is still worth the same today.

[Deleted]

Your only cost should be the $50 for PoF and HoT. There is no reason to spend a cent more. The easiest way to get going again is to start doing one of the stories. Either continue the previous one or start directly with HoT or PoF. Probably the latter because it's more solo friendly.

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PoF is definitely more solo friendly that HoT.

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I will have to look again but the last time I looked I couldn't even start the missions because I didn't have enough online in the guild.

It wasn't just the log in influence. I got influence for doing events as well and could also buy influence with gold and there were some rewards that gave it. Our 3 man guild had quite a few levels, a guild bank and maxed out banners, etc. It hasn't leveled at all since the change. Not one bit.

It would have been trivial for A/Net to give influence as before up to a limit for the small guilds. There is even a way to convert influence to favor.

As I said, I will try again tonight but, IMHO, the changes were a death knell for very small guilds (<= 3).

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It's literally impossible to fall behind in GW2. If I log off today and come back in a year, the only difference between me and the players that keep playing is that they will have done more content and have more cosmetic items. I will be able to to whatever content they are doing in the future with my same character.

I'll repeat myself again since you guys keep quoting the same stuff. It's all psychological. I know there's no hard reset of progression in the game so i will still feel like im 4 years behind everyone else in terms of gameplay.

[Acelius]

I tried GW2 briefly when it came out but I am just too used to WoW and have so much time invested that I couldn't transition.

[Lotus Victoria]

You forgot raids!

Oh snap, I did! My bad D:

[Witchblade77]

A/Net changed 1 and 3 with PoF. It's back to the old style where it's very solo friendly. On 2, I agree with you but it's not a deal breaker for me.

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I am pretty sure that PoF comes with an extra char slot.

nope. not the standard edition. https://buy.guildwars2.com/store?Act...eID=4785548100

have to buy deluxe or ultimate edition to get the extra character slot and if I'm not willing to pay $30, why would I pay $55 or more? its a good deal only IF you know for a fact you will enjoy the content. I have my doubts, after the trial and what my friend is telling me as far as difficulty of content goes.

on 1 - I checked the dailies yesterday for my later reply. its still the new style the ONLY thing that changed is that instead of a single zone you get a choice between 2-3 zones within the region, but its still severely limited compared to old meta.

on 3 - from what I saw, it still felt more focused on structured group content, maybe not as much as HoT, but still more so then vanilla. I mean.. the zones seem to be marginally more opened, but according to my actively playing friend, as a lot of locations require specific mounts to be able to traverse - its open in all but a name. its still linear enough to require getting required mounts first.

P.S. while I HAVE played WoW, I'm an ESO player. you know the game that requires a minimum of a year's investment to max out your crafting, 5-6 months to max out your mount speed, etc etc. time investment doesn't scare me. my issue with current incarnation of GW2 is not the time it takes to do things.

[Deleted]

The biggest problem for me is. There is to much new stuff. Unlike other MMO's they keep expaning on the "base game" more to do, more of everything, which is great mind you, But i tried to come 2 months ago, and i had to run though 6 Different zones, and had to do a major quest chain before even being able to do the thornes expation.

is to hard for people to come back in. In wow, if you join at the end of a expation, you are 2 years behind. if you start now, you are 4 years behind. And since it is, lets be honest, very well build, and phased when you actively played it along the way, but when you return to it. All you see is a massiv cliff

[PACOX]

The biggest problem for me is. There is to much new stuff. Unlike other MMO's they keep expaning on the "base game" more to do, more of everything, which is great mind you, But i tried to come 2 months ago, and i had to run though 6 Different zones, and had to do a major quest chain before even being able to do the thornes expation.

is to hard for people to come back in. In wow, if you join at the end of a expation, you are 2 years behind. if you start now, you are 4 years behind. And since it is, lets be honest, very well build, and phased when you actively played it along the way, but when you return to it. All you see is a massiv cliff

theres no such thing as being behind in gw2. the game is designed to played at your own pace, nothing becomes outdated, theres always a reason to go back and do 'old' content and no rush to anything new. that freedom seems to put people off more than pressure from 'falling behind'

[Scottyjscizzle]

After I fell behind in that last expansion due to medical stuff, it just never felt like I was making any headway towards catching up.

[cuafpr]

Forced mob level scaling, it quit when GW2 first came out around level 20 cause of that and never really looked back.

[Deleted]

theres no such thing as being behind in gw2. the game is designed to played at your own pace, nothing becomes outdated, theres always a reason to go back and do 'old' content and no rush to anything new. that freedom seems to put people off more than pressure from 'falling behind'

And i agree with you, if i just wanted to do nothing. But i came back, and said " I want to do the expation, so i can get glideing" and then, YOU are behind.

[Leih]

I played for a little while but the combat just put me off. I didn't enjoy the fighting system at all and an MMO where I don't want to fight anything cause I dislike the combat is not gonna work for me :/

[nodq]

The need of buying expansions iirc. Also, there are F2P MMOs that are better than GW2. Like Wildstar for example. So why pay money?

[PACOX]

So if I leave with Exos and come back when Viper gear is introduced which you know is damn strong for a condi build I wouldn't be behind someone in full Viper Ascended gear if I wanted to play the upto date condi builds?

You can be behind in this game in terms of builds because of how some new Ascended gear is handled. Exotics are good but it's still a step down. It's wrong to state otherwise. Legendaries thankfully are not needed because of their minor advantage but considering Fractals require AR then you need Ascended gear.

And considering there are groups starting to use unofficial DPS meters in high fractals who are you going to take? The Exo pulling less DPS because their gear/build isn't upto date or the Ascended pulling a boatload because their gear/build is upto date?

Same with Agony Resistance. Who are you going to take in a high fractal? Someone in orange gear with no AR or someone geared with AR? If people come back to the game and want to do PvE depending on the gear they left with they will have to play catch up.

And to be honest even when geared with the build you are aiming for what then? It's boring not having a new gear treadmill to work for when your build is done.

the jump between exotic -> ascended is only 6%, content is tuned for exotic gear. no one is going to kick your from an fractal for having exotic gear unless you're playing poorly, they suck themselves and need a carry, dps meters or not. the exception is farming lvl 40, in which you use power gear and the jump between exotic and ascended is even less apparent.

AR has nothing to do with falling behind, like equipment tiers its a static number that never goes up. New fractals still adhere to the 150 AR cap. 150 AR can earned through progression, which is short, or through gold. You dont even need a full set of ascended gear if you dont want to go the natural progression route...i see it all the time.

the treadmill if you must have one is acquiring and min/maxing the stats you want while not having to grind a new tier every time new content is added to the game. Are you playing to master encounters or to hoard loot, if its the latter then gw2 might now be for you.

[PACOX]

And i agree with you, if i just wanted to do nothing. But i came back, and said " I want to do the expation, so i can get glideing" and then, YOU are behind.

if you're talking about gliding then i would agree with you. grinding mastery xp (for Hot stuff) is a pain and there is no 'catch up' mechanic.

[PACOX]

That's totally dishonest considering higher fractals need Agony Resistance which Exotic slots do not have.

So again who is someone going to take. AR geared Ascended player pulling loads of DPS or Exo player with no AR pulling less? Not rocket science.

Read what I said. I said there is such a thing as being behind but it's not detrimental. I even admitted it.

you dont need to be fully ascended to hit 150 ar. my chrono is 1 of 2 characters i use for t4 fractals and it defin isnt fully ascended.

backpiece, trinkets, and rings = 100 ar without getting into using 10+ infusions.

plus 10 from the potion, plus 5 if you have your fractal masteries. that leaves 45 from any combination of exotics and ascended weapons/armor.

[PACOX]

Masteries themselves are a pain.

I'd rather them just do a new level cap every expansion.

how are mastery levels any different from raising the cap? both are just earning xp for the most part (expect getting HoT points which can be a pain, actually fixed if you have access to LS3 and/or raid).

[PACOX]

I never said you needed to be fully ascended either did I? But any sane group for a 100 Fractal would take a fully Ascended player based on the stats. 6% might not be much but it's still a difference in a raid/high fractal.

I said that Full Exos ain't getting you much in the way of AR and that no sane group would take you to a high one.

I asked the question of which group would take what player out of the two presented? Stats still matter but as you said it's not a huge difference and maybe some groups do take Exotic geared players. But it's still Exotic gear and it's still lower than Ascended.

full exotics, nope you're not doing high fractals but then theres that treadmill you said thats needed. if you dont know how to secure a few pieces of ascended then you're not ready for lvl 100 anyway.

raids can be done full exotic no problem.

you question assumes people are pinging gear, which is uncommon in gw2. if im running a fractal and question your resolve im going to ask you to step into an agony field to see how much ar you have, really couldn't care less if you had all ascended gear or not (we agreed that full exotic is out of the question for high fractals). im only going to go to my dps meter if we wipe. high lvl fractals are composition/player skill > ar > dps (related to class/gear not player skill).