View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #20281
    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    How does 26% of the votes lead to 47%-49% of the seats? That looks completely broken
    FPTP can do that.

  2. #20282
    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    How does 26% of the votes lead to 47%-49% of the seats? That looks completely broken
    First Past the Post is a hell of a drug.

  3. #20283
    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    How does 26% of the votes lead to 47%-49% of the seats? That looks completely broken
    That's FPTP being a system of running elections that really should have been abandoned decades ago. It doesn't just look completely broken, it is just that.

  4. #20284
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    If you are a remainer that's your best hope now really and will give the biggest chance of the softest WTO brexit possible. Anything else leads to Farage as PM with the Tories as the minor party in coalition. As a brexiteer am I now in a no lose scenario?

    Latest yougov Westminster polling gives...

    BXP: 26% (=)
    LDM: 22% (+2)
    LAB: 19% (-1)
    CON: 17% (-1)
    GRN: 8% (-1)
    TIG: 1% (+1)
    UKIP: 0% (-1)

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/s...86313953054720

    With the House of Commons made up like this...

    So talk me through how two parties controlling 400 of the MPs are going to vote for a GE when they know they are going to hand all their seats over to the Brexit party? Fact is, even if the Brexit party can reach those numbers in a GE (they can't) and even if they could maintain that for 3 years until the next GE (they won't) and even if they can avoid the rascist crazy spilling out before that GE (it will) they STILL won't get that many seats. Because before anyone calls a GE that would hand them that power, or before we get to the next GE in 2022, you would see a vote in Parliament to move to some form of PR to neuter them.

    And you know what 26% of the vote in a party that literally nobody would touch with a bargepole is called? I will give you a clue; it's not a fucking majority.

    You've still lost dribbles. And it's highly amusing to me that you are still pretending not to realise it.
    When challenging a Kzin, a simple scream of rage is sufficient. You scream and you leap.

    Quote Originally Posted by George Carlin
    Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
    Brexophilia: The act of rubbing yourself against dead political ideas for sexual pleasure.

  5. #20285
    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    So talk me through how two parties controlling 400 of the MPs are going to vote for a GE when they know they are going to hand all their seats over to the Brexit party? Fact is, even if the Brexit party can reach those numbers in a GE (they can't) and even if they could maintain that for 3 years until the next GE (they won't) and even if they can avoid the rascist crazy spilling out before that GE (it will) they STILL won't get that many seats. Because before anyone calls a GE that would hand them that power, or before we get to the next GE in 2022, you would see a vote in Parliament to move to some form of PR to neuter them.

    And you know what 26% of the vote in a party that literally nobody would touch with a bargepole is called? I will give you a clue; it's not a fucking majority.

    You've still lost dribbles. And it's highly amusing to me that you are still pretending not to realise it.
    Two words to you or one name - "Dominic Grieve", a brexiteers best friend. All Boris has to do is say no deal one to many times and bam, grievey rolls out the parliamentary red carpet and the doors of No 10 to Farage.

    Dominic Grieve: MP says he'll BRING DOWN the government to stop a No Deal Brexit

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...-hell-16508243

    Every which way you remainers turn, you've lost.

  6. #20286
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Two words to you or one name - "Dominic Grieve", a brexiteers best friend. All Boris has to do is say no deal one to many times and bam, grievey rolls out the parliamentary red carpet and the doors of No 10 to Farage.

    Dominic Grieve: MP says he'll BRING DOWN the government to stop a No Deal Brexit

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...-hell-16508243

    Every which way you remainers turn, you've lost.
    And to think you guys used to be the pragmatic, sensible, reasonable ones ...

  7. #20287
    Boris will be our next party leader and therefore PM. Frankly the leadership contest has nothing to do with the BBC and other MSM outlets, and the wider public as a whole, and this enrages the BBC especially as they know there is nothing they can do about it.

    The MP's just need to get Boris through to the last two, and the membership will take care of the rest.

    Hard Brexit here we come

    Let's hope our exit is the first brick out of the wall. Italy next? Let's hope so. The Germans can't sustain the bloc themselves.

    I will enjoy watching the EU crumble.

  8. #20288
    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    How does 26% of the votes lead to 47%-49% of the seats? That looks completely broken
    FPTP where you can get so low and be declared the winner. In one part of the uk in 2015 a candidate for 24% of the vote and was declared the winner and representative of everyone in that consituency. Even though 76% of the people said "We dont' want that one."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reyuna View Post
    Boris will be our next party leader and therefore PM. Frankly the leadership contest has nothing to do with the BBC and other MSM outlets, and the wider public as a whole, and this enrages the BBC especially as they know there is nothing they can do about it.

    The MP's just need to get Boris through to the last two, and the membership will take care of the rest.

    Hard Brexit here we come

    Let's hope our exit is the first brick out of the wall. Italy next? Let's hope so. The Germans can't sustain the bloc themselves.

    I will enjoy watching the EU crumble.
    And then China, USA, India, Russia come in and carve Europe up between them setting off a case of proxy issues and hostility over the continent because small countries become puppets of big ones.

  9. #20289
    Thats fine. Europe is and always will be a continent at war with itself.

  10. #20290
    Quote Originally Posted by Reyuna View Post
    Thats fine. Europe is and always will be a continent at war with itself.
    Please take your continent bashing elsewhere

  11. #20291
    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    Please take your continent bashing elsewhere
    Felt like Reyuna is another Dribbles account.
    ''With this attack, we have no choice but to protect our kind by unleashing our almighty weapon upon them. Summoning the Apocalypse'' - Stellaris Apocalypse trailer.

  12. #20292
    Quote Originally Posted by stanpwith View Post
    Not sure why the Brexiteers seem so keen on Johnson. Wasn't he a remainer till a month before the referendum? What makes any one think he can be trusted to follow through on Brexit?

    Additionally why do remainers vote for the Lib Dems? They have the worst record in British politics on going back on their word, which is saying something. I could just see them coming out with some bullshit about how it was vital for the good of the nation that they stop the Tories going too far with a no-deal brexit, whilst doing nothing other than giving them the numbers to do so in another coalition.
    As if the Lib Dems really had any real power in the 2010 coalition.

  13. #20293
    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    As if the Lib Dems really had any real power in the 2010 coalition.
    They had some, but it wasn't seen because how do you see what doesn't happen because the Tories were held back? Simply put you can't. You just have to look at post 2015 Tory ran governments to see how insane they really are.

    As for Europe always at war with itself, that's why the EU exists as a means to stop it. Surely that's better than dead people unless you're some kind of Jingo brit who thinks Europeans are inferior people who need to be put in their place..

    Oh that's right they are little Englanders who make up the majority of Brexiteers.

  14. #20294
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    As for Europe always at war with itself, that's why the EU exists as a means to stop it.
    Also, it is not like Europe is the only place on Earth with a history full of wars and conflict.
    Its history is just known in more detail to us.

  15. #20295
    That clock is growing ever louder as it is revealed that Boris will have just 100 days to deliver brexit or see the collapse of the Tory party... no pressure then.

    BORIS Johnson is facing a stark ultimatum from hardline Tory MPs — deliver Brexit by Halloween or we join Nigel Farage.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/930434...on-brexit-100/

    Tick tock...

  16. #20296
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    That clock is growing ever louder as it is revealed that Boris will have just 100 days to deliver brexit or see the collapse of the Tory party... no pressure then.

    BORIS Johnson is facing a stark ultimatum from hardline Tory MPs — deliver Brexit by Halloween or we join Nigel Farage.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/930434...on-brexit-100/

    Tick tock...
    Read: Hardline Tory MPs threaten to split the conservative vote and hand Labor/LD a majority and mandate for another referendum.

    Smart.

  17. #20297
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Read: Hardline Tory MPs threaten to split the conservative vote and hand Labor/LD a majority and mandate for another referendum.

    Smart.
    If Brexit actually happens, they lose their core issue. They lose their fees for turning up on QT, they lose their audience, they lose their reason to exist in the political space.

    Much better for them to engineer a solution to Brexit that allows them to continue to complain about the EU in the public eye and stay on the gravy train (simply switching party would not trigger a bye-election in their constituency).

    Cynic? Me? Never

  18. #20298
    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    If Brexit actually happens, they lose their core issue. They lose their fees for turning up on QT, they lose their audience, they lose their reason to exist in the political space.

    Much better for them to engineer a solution to Brexit that allows them to continue to complain about the EU in the public eye and stay on the gravy train (simply switching party would not trigger a bye-election in their constituency).

    Cynic? Me? Never
    The EU is the best scapegoat British idiots ever had, short of The Papists™, so I agree with you there.

    The problem is that May's red line bullshit torpedoed any chance of such a deal emerging - given that the WA is hated by most, the only alternative is remain as is and negotiate terms later.

  19. #20299
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    The EU is the best scapegoat British idiots ever had, short of The Papists™, so I agree with you there.
    It is really ironic that technically all of England belongs to the Pope, because of that English king who gifted it to the Pope to avoid getting disposed of.
    He then went on pretending to rule it in the Pope's name.

  20. #20300
    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    If Brexit actually happens, they lose their core issue. They lose their fees for turning up on QT, they lose their audience, they lose their reason to exist in the political space.

    Much better for them to engineer a solution to Brexit that allows them to continue to complain about the EU in the public eye and stay on the gravy train (simply switching party would not trigger a bye-election in their constituency).

    Cynic? Me? Never
    You can guarantee that if Brexit did happen, and it fucked things up as we all expect it to do, they would be making it clear that it wasn't their fault. Brexit wasn't delivered properly, they will say. It was sabotaged by the Remainers, or by the EU. If they'd been in charge, they would have done it properly.

    All fucking lies, of course. They are all professional blamers and moaners. None of them had a proper plan for how to leave, or what it would look like after we left. They just wanted a scapegoat to point at and blame, and they wanted to get themselves well paid talking head jobs where they could blame somebody and demand something was done.

    I'm damn sure they not only didn't expect to win the referendum, they didn't actually want to. A nice narrow defeat that would have left them able to carry on demanding another one would have been the perfect outcome. They could have carried on complaining into their retirements and beyond.
    When challenging a Kzin, a simple scream of rage is sufficient. You scream and you leap.

    Quote Originally Posted by George Carlin
    Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
    Brexophilia: The act of rubbing yourself against dead political ideas for sexual pleasure.

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