View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #20961
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    Basically what Slant said....

    But Slant, you do know those Dribblesesque brexiteer will somehow make it the fault of the evul EU anyway.
    I know. I am actually fine with it. I have stopped caring what crazies think about us.
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  2. #20962
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    It would treat it as the same as every other nation it doesn't have any deal with. Not sure what is so humours about this.
    You realise that you've contradicted your claim that goods would be destroyed or confiscated?

  3. #20963
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    It's the EU economy that is crashing off a cliff due to pig headedness about a backstop, and we haven't even left yet. Someone mentioned transport issues earlier on this page, i'll give you EU transport issues bigger than one stalled bus. How about a stalled airline, as announced today...

    Ryanair profits crash 21% as airline counts cost of Brexit

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/ryana...rline-18793965

    Now imagine if all EU companies profits fall by more than a fifth because of Brexit...
    Am I crazy or is Ryanair an Irish company, not a dreaded EU firm?

    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    an evil undemocratic socialist equalisation experiment going badly wrong.
    How are people still entertaining you when you come out with shit like this?

    Thought you were running away, anyway, because your "viewpoint/beliefs weren't welcome here" or some such?

  4. #20964
    Peston has quite an interesting article about Johnson and Brexit; https://www.itv.com/news/2019-07-30/...robert-peston/

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Am I crazy or is Ryanair an Irish company, not a dreaded EU firm? Last I remember, Northern Ireland was part of the UK, no? At least for now.
    This is a joke? Right? Ryanair is a company that was formed and is based in the Republic of Ireland.

  5. #20965
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    You realise that you've contradicted your claim that goods would be destroyed or confiscated?
    Nope i am not

  6. #20966
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    This is a joke? Right? Ryanair is a company that was formed and is based in the Republic of Ireland.
    Don't get your panties in a wad, I took the last bit out after checking where in Ireland. Relax. Still an Irish company

  7. #20967
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Nope i am not
    Oh well when you put it in such clearly defined and detailed terms!?! I must say that I am not surprised that you neither realise that you are contradicting yourself nor that you are unable to put some actual flesh on your arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Don't get your panties in a wad, I took the last bit out after checking where in Ireland. Relax. Still an Irish company
    Of course. I mean small details such as what country Ryanair is based in are entirely unimportant when having a go at dribbles.

  8. #20968
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    It is unlikely the UK will regulate to the extent the protectionist EU does, so the presumption will be if its good enough to pass over zealous EU inspections it is OK for supply within the UK. There is a great system already in place to ensure goods purchased by UK consumers are safe and fit for purpose, from only buying at trusted suppliers, internet review sites, credit card purchase protection schemes, sale of goods act, trading standards, etc etc

    Perhaps you could give a specific example of something we would want to regulate to stricter standards than already imposed on manufacturers/suppliers by the EU?

    Who knows very soon I might even legally be allowed to buy and consume a bent banana...
    I mean you wont be getting your 'bent banana' because you've admitted in your first paragraph that your happy for EU regulations to continue to apply to imports into the UK. Those mythical bananas would already have been turned away before they got to the UK.

    If you dislike EU regulators why are you happy for them to continue to regulate UK imports, are British people really that lazy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    You realise that you've contradicted your claim that goods would be destroyed or confiscated?
    He hasn't.

    If a UK company exports something to the EU which doesn't meet its regulatory standards it will be dealt with accordingly. Just as would happen with an import from any other country.

  9. #20969
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Of course. I mean small details such as what country Ryanair is based in are entirely unimportant when having a go at dribbles.
    I hope you're not trying to suggest that me commenting that Ryanair is indeed an Irish company was "having a go"? What pathetically low standards you must have for people saying mean things to you if so.

  10. #20970
    Quote Originally Posted by mojojojo202 View Post
    He hasn't.

    If a UK company exports something to the EU which doesn't meet its regulatory standards it will be dealt with accordingly. Just as would happen with an import from any other country.
    He has.

    And now you're introducing an entirely different point of goods failing to meet regulatory standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    I hope you're not trying to suggest that me commenting that Ryanair is indeed an Irish company was "having a go"? What pathetically low standards you must have for people saying mean things to you if so.
    You initially claimed that Ryanair was Northern Ireland company in order to prove dribbles' point wrong when it is based in the Republic which is a different country, trying to claim that it is an Irish company does not make your point correct.

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    Johnson and Varadkar have spoken by phone; https://www.thejournal.ie/boris-john...45937-Jul2019/ with Johnson reiterating that the UK will be leaving on Oct 31st come what may.

  11. #20971
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    You realise that you've contradicted your claim that goods would be destroyed or confiscated?
    Again with the semantics. Don't be daft. If you try to export something into the EU without the proper paperwork and without paying customs (aka smuggle), it'll get stopped at the border until you do. You can take it back or get it confiscated or destroyed. You know how customs work, don't act like an idiot.
    Last edited by Slant; 2019-07-30 at 04:01 PM.
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  12. #20972
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojojojo202 View Post

    He hasn't.

    If a UK company exports something to the EU which doesn't meet its regulatory standards it will be dealt with accordingly. Just as would happen with an import from any other country.
    It will be as with goods from China, confiscated, send back or destroyed depending on the nature of it. I'm leaving on the send back option because i believe customs will be so packed that the bulk of it would just be destroyed.

    All ports are investing a lot of money on stopping counterfeit goods and drugs into Europe, most of these goods don't pass through the UK first as i believe the continental ports are bigger, so suddenly we have to entrust the UK to control all those goods before sending them through to us, ignoring they don't have the infrastructure or man power for it. And we aren't even on good terms with them especially not post no deal brexit.

    Anyway i wouldn't invest too much time, if that's their believe you aren't going to change the opinion of a brexiteer.

  13. #20973
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Am I crazy or is Ryanair an Irish company, not a dreaded EU firm?
    Ireland is in the EU. However, Ryanair has more to deal with than Brexit. Belgium and German low cost airliners are being good competitors. The article says so itself, or others do anyway.
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  14. #20974
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    You initially claimed that Ryanair was Northern Ireland company in order to prove dribbles' point wrong when it is based in the Republic which is a different country, trying to claim that it is an Irish company does not make your point correct.
    Again, are you suggesting this was me "having a go" or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojojojo202 View Post
    I mean you wont be getting your 'bent banana' because you've admitted in your first paragraph that your happy for EU regulations to continue to apply to imports into the UK. Those mythical bananas would already have been turned away before they got to the UK.

    If you dislike EU regulators why are you happy for them to continue to regulate UK imports, are British people really that lazy
    But we will, our bananas don't all come from the EU. And those of an abnormal curvature that growers have to destroy, yet are perfectly edible, can now be enjoyed by UK people at far less cost than the "perfect" ones that must be supplied to the EU. A benefit to the UK people of Brexit.

    The EU will only regulate UK imports from the EU and have all the huge costs of regulation and inspection to pay for. An overhead UK businesses will not have to pay for, again making them more competitive. Another benefit of Brexit to the detriment of the EU.

    The more the EU regulates, bans, inspects and so on, the more the UK will smile and sagely nod its head politely across the channel and say good job eurochums you carry on over regulating your business people to bankruptcy.

  16. #20976
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Again, are you suggesting this was me "having a go" or not?
    Why deny it? You tried to have a go at dribbles and in the process made yourself look foolish.

  17. #20977
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Why deny it? You tried to have a go at dribbles and in the process made yourself look foolish.
    Yeah, no. If you class that as "having a go", you're a super thin-skinned joke.

    Now, if you'd have mentioned me "having a go" along the lines of the second half of that post, where I quite rightly question why people still entertain him and ask why he was still here after claiming he was going to leave, maybe you'd have a point. Maybe.

  18. #20978
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Yeah, no. If you class that as "having a go", you're a super thin-skinned joke.

    Now, if you'd have mentioned me "having a go" along the lines of the second half of that post, where I quite rightly question why people still entertain him and ask why he was still here after claiming he was going to leave, maybe you'd have a point. Maybe.
    Yeah. You sure showed me!

    You're argument is that you were not having a go when you sarcastically claimed that Ryanair was not "a dreaded EU firm" but you were in the second part of your post?!? Brilliant!

    Look I have no interest in this and I suggest that your repeated replies only serve to highlight that you seemingly don't know the difference between NI and RoI. Seriously, let it go! However I realise that you will be keen to have the last word on the matter and to that end this post will be my last on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    I don't know what you mean by "surpassed long ago" but I assume you mean GATT 24 although there is no clarity in your point.

    The UK is, as are all nations, free to control its borders as it sees fit, including not enforcing them (whatever that might mean). Let me get this straight you think that the EU would confiscate and destroy goods coming from the UK? On what grounds? It would appear that you are suggesting that the EU would treat goods from the UK differently to goods from other nations. Is that what you meant? And how do you propose that this discriminatory customs regime would be enforced?

    Oh, go on then. I could do with a laugh.
    No regulatory alignment whatsoever.

    The EU would treat goods from the UK differently to goods from other nations because either those other nations have a regulatory alignment for the goods in question, or it would treat them the same as goods without regulatory alignment, either way, they wouldn't be allowed entering the single market.
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  20. #20980
    They still think the single market is a joke. They have no idea how much pain the EU will go through to preserve the integrity of the single market.
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