View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Funtrus View Post

    Labour has not been in power since 1979 unless you count New Labour, which was in many ways more right-wing than the current Tory government. Of course they didn't do anything for the north, they were tories with some flowery rhetoric about social justice.
    just like labour to make excuses, they wore the labour badge, were selected by the labour party, you either own them or admit you made a deal with the devil for power and cant be trusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    We are having a confirmatory vote/peoples vote/general election call it what you will on 12th Dec. It took our Boris 4 or five attempts to corner chicken Jeremy to stop him running away and get it agreed through parliament so it could happen. It's the people who are voting, not squirrels on Dec 12th = a peoples vote.

    Gifted to remainers by brexiteers for one last chance at staying in the EU.

    And the only clear option for remainers is to vote Lib Dem which if the polls are correct, less than 1 in 6 will do so. It's no democracy at all if 48% get to overrule the 52% who will not vote to remain in the EU at the December peoples vote Brexit General Election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojojojo202 View Post
    If we are going to do this can we split London out from the rest of the South of England please.

    London is going to dominate over anything in it's vicinity, it's needs are very different to the rest of South East England let alone, East Anglia or Cornwall for example.
    I should have added that as yes London should be split from rest of South East. I mean if you're making regional parliaments. Having an area with population of Scotland/Wales/N.Ireland combined being within a greater area is insantiy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    We are having a confirmatory vote/peoples vote/general election call it what you will on 12th Dec. It took our Boris 4 or five attempts to corner chicken Jeremy to stop him running away and get it agreed through parliament so it could happen. It's the people who are voting, not squirrels on Dec 12th = a peoples vote.

    Gifted to remainers by brexiteers for one last chance at staying in the EU.

    And the only clear option for remainers is to vote Lib Dem which if the polls are correct, less than 1 in 6 will do so. It's no democracy at all if 15 or 16% get to overrule the 85% who will not vote to remain in the EU at the December peoples vote Brexit General Election.
    A) You know that's not how FPTP works which you love so much.

    B) Even if true 40% which the Tories will likely get should not out vote 60% who will vote against BOJO and co.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    just like labour to make excuses, they wore the labour badge, were selected by the labour party, you either own them or admit you made a deal with the devil for power and cant be trusted.
    Do you know that a parties leadership can change? Just wondering..


    Would be funny if they did not though, labour parties all over europe would still be socialist, that would actually be nice. A tad undemocratic and i'm not sure how zombies can rule, but eh, whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    Do you know that a parties leadership can change? Just wondering..


    Would be funny if they did not though, labour parties all over europe would still be socialist, that would actually be nice. A tad undemocratic and i'm not sure how zombies can rule, but eh, whatever.
    You do know that the leader is elected by the members right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funtrus View Post
    So what exactly are you proposing? Sulk pathetically for another few decades while the Tories screw you over some more?

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    Wow if only Labour had held a referendum on Northern independence in 2004. Oh wait, they did, and it was rejected by 77% of the population.

    Do you know anything? It is like talking to a teenager.
    You k ow that was 15 years ago, and befor the recession times have changed, sentiments have changed. It also wasn't independance, or all of the north, just a vote for a Yorkshire assembly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funtrus View Post
    Wow if only Labour had held a referendum on Northern independence in 2004. Oh wait, they did, and it was rejected by 77% of the population.

    Do you know anything? It is like talking to a teenager.
    Damn, you know you can google this shit, it wasn't a vote on independence. Can't figure out the difference between decentralization and independence?
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    Ok guys it's time to see quite how exactly Jeremy "RUIN THE ECONOMY!" Corbyn's manifesto will RUIN THE ECONOMY!! Will it be realistically costed? Will it contain a pledge for free ice cream? I don't know but I do know one thing, no matter what it contains it will definitely promise to RUIN THE ECONOMY!!!

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    Corbyn wants to raise taxes and increase spending. He wants to destroy the economy.

    Boris wants to cut taxes and increase spending. Tumbleweed.

    Corbyn and Labour clearly a vote against leaving, maybe not a true remain party, say they'll have another referendum, so dribbles can fuck off with that shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by draykorinee View Post
    Corbyn wants to raise taxes and increase spending. He wants to destroy the economy.

    Boris wants to cut taxes and increase spending. Tumbleweed.

    Corbyn and Labour clearly a vote against leaving, maybe not a true remain party, say they'll have another referendum, so dribbles can fuck off with that shit.
    You clearly can't have a proper economy without focusing on the rich and ignoring the working class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by draykorinee View Post
    Corbyn wants to raise taxes and increase spending. He wants to destroy the economy.

    Boris wants to cut taxes and increase spending. Tumbleweed.

    Corbyn and Labour clearly a vote against leaving, maybe not a true remain party, say they'll have another referendum, so dribbles can fuck off with that shit.
    Well someone is obviously not up on their Reagonmics! Tax cuts actually mean more revenue for the Government, just check across the pond for the fantastic job Trump's tax cut has done in reducing the US deficit.

    Corbyn plans to "RUIN THE ECONOMY!!!!" by shamelessly attacking our Monarchy when asked whether paedophiles should go to jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    Well someone is obviously not up on their Reagonmics! Tax cuts actually mean more revenue for the Government, just check across the pond for the fantastic job Trump's tax cut has done in reducing the US deficit.

    Corbyn plans to "RUIN THE ECONOMY!!!!" by shamelessly attacking our Monarchy when asked whether paedophiles should go to jail.
    The sad part is, the narrative has stuck too damn well.
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    I have to apologies to Diane Abbott, this interview is worse than anything she's done.

    Well someone is obviously not up on their Reagonmics! Tax cuts actually mean more revenue for the Government, just check across the pond for the fantastic job Trump's tax cut has done in reducing the US deficit.
    Lol indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    And the only clear option for remainers is to vote Lib Dem which if the polls are correct, less than 1 in 6 will do so. It's no democracy at all if 15 or 16% get to overrule the 85% who will not vote to remain in the EU at the December peoples vote Brexit General Election.
    Take your pick:

    Twice as many people now think it would have been better never to have held a referendum on Brexit than believe it was a good idea, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer.

    Asked to consider the difficulties the government has had in reaching an agreement, 57% of UK adults surveyed said that they believed it would have been better not to have had a public vote in June 2016.

    This compares with 29% of voters who believe it was right to hold the referendum on whether the UK should stay in or leave the EU.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ad-over-labour


    To leave the EU 41%
    To remain a member of the EU 47%
    https://whatukthinks.org/eu/question...ld-you-vote-2/

    Almost half (47%) said they wanted a public vote on a final deal, as opposed to a third (34%) who said they did not. Once don’t knows are eliminated there is a 58% majority for a second referendum.
    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/p...9-10?r=US&IR=T

    Or better yet, look at a meta-analysis:

    The YouGov analysis for the Evening Standard of 300 surveys shows “concrete” evidence that the country shifted against quitting the European bloc in the year after the June 2016 referendum and has steadfastly stuck to this position ever since.

    One of the most striking findings is that 204 out of 226 polls since July 2017 have shown Remain ahead, with just seven for Leave, and 15 ties.

    So far this year, just one poll in the series has put Leave ahead, compared to 74 for staying in the EU.
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4257476.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Funtrus View Post
    How the hell are you going to get to full independence without a sitting parliament, dopey? Your contingency planning is worse than the Tories.

    The assembly was rejected by 77%. No one wanted it. The other referendums that were supposed to take place in the north polled even lower support levels. That has not changed. There is no support for northern independence. If such a thing should ever emerge it would only ever happen under a Labour government.

    You are making no sense at all. Everything you say is poorly constructed from ill-thought tribalism, you are esentially a Brexiteer with a whippet.
    So just like Scotland a couple decades ago?

    Wanna keep chatting or you gonna help promote the north having equal opportunity's? Then they don't follow the same path as Scotland and Wales.

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    If any of your nonsense links were true then at the peoples vote/confirmatory referendum on Dec 12th then the only clear remain party, the Lib Dems, will romp home and Jo Swinson will be PM.

    After all remainers have been saying for years people didn't know what they voted for at the brexit referendum or have changed their minds. Well after years now of constant brexit debate they know now.

    Let's see who is right at the Brexit GE when millions vote rather than sample sized polls of a thousand or so. Your dribbles or mine.

    I'm betting on mine and as for Swinson as PM, bwahahahahaa no chance. Remain/stay in the corrupt EU is a lost cause, hasn't won since 1973, just give up already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    If any of your nonsense links were true then at the peoples vote/confirmatory referendum on Dec 12th then the only clear remain party, the Lib Dems, will romp home and Jo Swinson will be PM.

    After all remainers have been saying for years people didn't know what they voted for at the brexit referendum or have changed their minds. Well after years now of constant brexit debate they know now.

    Let's see who is right at the Brexit GE when millions vote rather than sample sized polls of a thousand or so. Your dribbles or mine.

    I'm betting on mine and as for Swinson as PM, bwahahahahaa no chance. Remain/stay in the corrupt EU is a lost cause, hasn't won since 1973, just give up already.
    That's not how fptp systems work... How many times do you have to be told that. Most people don't vote on a single issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draykorinee View Post
    That's not how fptp systems work... How many times do you have to be told that. Most people don't vote on a single issue.
    Dribbles thinks everybody is a single issue voter, it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    Dribbles thinks everybody is a single issue voter, it seems.
    Well obviously, because leaving the EU will solve every other issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Well obviously, because leaving the EU will solve every other issue.
    And when it doesn't they will have to figure out what kind of meat they throw to their rabid base next. My bet would be all the forun lookin types still in the country.

    Because they know full well that if that don't point them in the direction of a new target for their hatred, they will turn on the Tories instead.

    I'm still confident that enough voters will come to their senses and keep this band of liars and grifters away from the levers of power. Anything other than a Tory majority and we can clear this mess up once and for all next year. Otherwise the next decade is likely to be a giant shitshow.
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