View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    And when it doesn't they will have to figure out what kind of meat they throw to their rabid base next. My bet would be all the forun lookin types still in the country.

    Because they know full well that if that don't point them in the direction of a new target for their hatred, they will turn on the Tories instead.

    I'm still confident that enough voters will come to their senses and keep this band of liars and grifters away from the levers of power. Anything other than a Tory majority and we can clear this mess up once and for all next year. Otherwise the next decade is likely to be a giant shitshow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    After all remainers have been saying for years people didn't know what they voted for at the brexit referendum
    It's not that they didn't know what they were voting for, it's that what they were voting for either turned out to be a lie or simply isn't being offered by the government.

    To put this in perspective, not one single person voted for a no deal Brexit because that wasn't on offer in the 2016 referendum, not one single person voted to leave the single market as that was not on offer in the 2016 referendum (as stressed hard by our current PM during the campaign).

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    It's not that they didn't know what they were voting for, it's that what they were voting for either turned out to be a lie or simply isn't being offered by the government.

    To put this in perspective, not one single person voted for a no deal Brexit because that wasn't on offer in the 2016 referendum, not one single person voted to leave the single market as that was not on offer in the 2016 referendum (as stressed hard by our current PM during the campaign).
    But but don't you get it. You don't listen to the leave campaign but now the leaflet that the leave campaign said was bullshit during the referendum is what they wanted all along! (Even people who in 2016 posted memes about how they were getting good deals without leaving the market now saying no deal is what they wanted the entire time.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    It's not that they didn't know what they were voting for, it's that what they were voting for either turned out to be a lie or simply isn't being offered by the government.

    To put this in perspective, not one single person voted for a no deal Brexit because that wasn't on offer in the 2016 referendum, not one single person voted to leave the single market as that was not on offer in the 2016 referendum (as stressed hard by our current PM during the campaign).
    I can assure you I voted to leave the single market. along with millions of others, which was exactly pledged at the referendum even by our Boris. Let me in 2 mins remind you exactly what brexiteers were offered. We were told and we knew what we voted for, as we will again at the GE. How many times have remainers got to lose? Do they enjoy it or something?


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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    If any of your nonsense links were true
    Oh, you don't like it so it's not true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Conservatives caught bullshitting again

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...a9212076.html?
    I mean this sort of shit should result in jail time. If we don't punish politicians for outright fraud then we should expect it to become the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I can assure you I voted to leave the single market. along with millions of others
    How many millions, drib-drib?

    I guess we should have a referendum and find out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Well obviously, because leaving the EU will solve every other issue.
    Same way the right wing parties use the "Immigrants" to get people to vote for them while fucking over those same people on every other issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    Same way the right wing parties use the "Immigrants" to get people to vote for them while fucking over those same people on every other issue.
    Pretty much, yep.
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before.

    A bunch of times actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    I guess we should have a referendum and find out?
    Even Farage and his brexit party support a second referendum on eu membership.

    "Introduce Citizens’ Initiatives to allow people to call referendums, subject to a 5m threshold of registered voter signatures and time limitations on repeat votes."
    https://www.thebrexitparty.org/contract/

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    Maybe satire but when its more truthful than most British media, it really does make you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I can assure you I voted to leave the single market.
    No you didn't.

    You may have wanted to leave the single market but that's not what you voted for as it wasn't on offer in 2016, the Leave campaign (and Boris in particular) made it quite clear that voting to leave the EU did not mean leaving the single market (it was one of their big selling points for leaving).

    This is why the lies told by the Leave campaign are such a contentions subject, because if they had not said that then the result would have been a remain victory. Hence why of the millions who only voted to leave because they trusted the Leave campaign and believed we would be leaving with a deal that allowed us to remain in the single market, many have since changed their mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    No you didn't.

    You may have wanted to leave the single market but that's not what you voted for as it wasn't on offer in 2016, the Leave campaign (and Boris in particular) made it quite clear that voting to leave the EU did not mean leaving the single market (it was one of their big selling points for leaving).

    This is why the lies told by the Leave campaign are such a contentions subject, because if they had not said that then the result would have been a remain victory. Hence why of the millions who only voted to leave because they trusted the Leave campaign and believed we would be leaving with a deal that allowed us to remain in the single market, many have since changed their mind.

    The only thing I can agree with you on is yes many people have changed their minds.

    Ex remainers have seen sense and gone leave. That's why instead of a remain parliament as now, we will end up with a brexit one after the Brexit election. Drain the swamp = happy days as the will of the people is served.

    BREAKING: First big election model seat projection predicts Tory majority of 48

    Con 349...Leave
    Lab 213...Neutral
    LD 14 .....Remain
    Others.....Who cares

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    Now let's get brexit done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    The only thing I can agree with you on is yes many people have changed their minds.

    Ex remainers have seen sense and gone leave. That's why instead of a remain parliament as now, we will end up with a brexit one after the Brexit election. Drain the swamp = happy days as the will of the people is served.

    BREAKING: First big election model seat projection predicts Tory majority of 48

    Con 349...Leave
    Lab 213...Neutral
    LD 14 .....Remain
    Others.....Who cares

    https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/...60629930790916

    Now let's get brexit done.
    "Get Brexit done". With the Prime Minister who had the chance to do so in October and bottled it. Who acted before becoming PM in a way that forced Brexit to not get done.

    But what happened to your beloved UKIP/Brexit Party?! Didn't you say they would win a load of seats? I suppose there isn't really any point voting for them given that they couldn't have got a majority anyway (after Farage decided to keep being a coward and ran away from power again after standing down two thirds of his candidates).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    "Get Brexit done". With the Prime Minister who had the chance to do so in October and bottled it. Who acted before becoming PM in a way that forced Brexit to not get done.

    But what happened to your beloved UKIP/Brexit Party?! Didn't you say they would win a load of seats? I suppose there isn't really any point voting for them given that they couldn't have got a majority anyway (after Farage decided to keep being a coward and ran away from power again after standing down two thirds of his candidates).
    What happened? The Blue Wave happened.

    https://leave.eu/introducing-blue-wave/

    We took the Tories, keeping them honest all without you noticing, leaving the original Brexit Party to hoover up the 5 million disaffected Labour leave voters who would never vote Tory and decimate comrade Corbyns northern marginals voter base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    What happened? The Blue Wave happened.



    We took the Tories, keeping them honest all without you noticing, leaving the original Brexit Party to hoover up the 5 million disaffected Labour leave voters who would never vote Tory and decimate comrade Corbyns northern marginals voter base.
    You might want to wait until all this actually happens. Much of this was supposed to happen in 2017 and didn't.

  15. #25975
    So the Tories have managed to publish a manifesto without shitting the bed like last time. Completely unambitious and therefore pretty difficult to attack aside from whats looking like a rather spurious claim to recruit more nurses on the cheap and tbf it's not like anyone believes them anyway, the Conservatives have never hit a target they've set in the past so why should the British public even bother believing them this time?

    Sad times really, you can attack the Labour manifesto for being high risk, overly ambitious and potentially ruinous but hey, it's at least promising a vision for the country going forward, whilst this Conservative manifesto is at best saying "Hey! We can go back to 2008!"....over a decade later. Utterly depressing.

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    The Manifesto is basically 'We'll revert all the cuts and damage we did, spend a ton of money AND cut taxes all at once!' Its a fantasy manifesto, but unlike Labour it won't be scrutinised as harshly even though its just as pie in the sky.

    Dribbles still pushing his utter misunderstanding of the FPTP the system as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    So the Tories have managed to publish a manifesto without shitting the bed like last time. Completely unambitious and therefore pretty difficult to attack aside from whats looking like a rather spurious claim to recruit more nurses on the cheap and tbf it's not like anyone believes them anyway, the Conservatives have never hit a target they've set in the past so why should the British public even bother believing them this time?

    Sad times really, you can attack the Labour manifesto for being high risk, overly ambitious and potentially ruinous but hey, it's at least promising a vision for the country going forward, whilst this Conservative manifesto is at best saying "Hey! We can go back to 2008!"....over a decade later. Utterly depressing.
    It's basically "elect us, and we'll do Brexit and...errr....that's about it. Oh, and here's a few things that might sound reasonable but don't hold up to 30 seconds of scrutiny". If enough people fall for this to get Boris his majority, then we deserve everything that happens to us after that. It is mind-boggling how many voters are so ignorant that they are happy to vote for a party funded by billionaires and businessmen who operate purely and solely for the benefit of those groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by draykorinee View Post
    The Manifesto is basically 'We'll revert all the cuts and damage we did, spend a ton of money AND cut taxes all at once!' Its a fantasy manifesto, but unlike Labour it won't be scrutinised as harshly even though its just as pie in the sky.

    Dribbles still pushing his utter misunderstanding of the FPTP the system as always.
    The surprising part is that not much of what you are saying is true. They aren't promising tax cuts, they aren't promising to spend all that much (or maybe that the window on "much" has been so radically moved in this election), it's basically promising nothing. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but the only tax cut is a cut to National Insurance which by all rights should be getting dumped on (how do you find extra money for the NHS whilst directly defunding the NHS?), It's a hardly even worth raising an eye brow at.

    Yeah sure they will be getting off easy but even a deep dive on it isn't going to pull up much because their isn't anything in the fucking thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draykorinee View Post
    Its a fantasy manifesto
    It's also cucking immensely to leftist viewpoints in general. WTB someone who's actually right-wing to do this stuff like good old Maggie, instead of this wet nonsense. Whatever, "stay the course" is still far better than Comrade Corbyn or the official anti-Brexit parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teleros View Post
    It's also cucking immensely to leftist viewpoints in general. WTB someone who's actually right-wing to do this stuff like good old Maggie, instead of this wet nonsense. Whatever, "stay the course" is still far better than Comrade Corbyn or the official anti-Brexit parties.
    Really? Passing off 6 refurbishments as 40 new hospitals? The number of current Nurse vacancies as new jobs? Announcing new Police recruitment that doesn’t even cover the number sacked off already? Is better?

    That’s before hand waving the tens of thousands dead to austerity.

    Are you one of those idiots who justify this guy and his racism, xenophobia, islamophobia, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, appeal to antisemites, and whatever other bigotry he’s got going on because “Labour antisemitism which is mostly just opposition to Israeli occupations and apartheid is bad”?

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