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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

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    24 26.09%
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  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
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  1. #26381
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    What's the significance of it being a month old? The EU have been insisting for years that its citizens eat pus filled sausages against the wishes of the UK. As an article from 2014 shows...

    Abbatoirs in the EU sort through the pigs to find the diseased ones, seperate them out from the good ones which are sent to Asia, and keep the manky ones for their own people.

    customers in Asian markets still insist on their pork being checked in the old way,

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27866293

    The UK should ban imports of EU food until they raise food standards to match ours. We should be insisting, like Asia, we won't eat abscess sausages. You are welcome to munch on them eurochums, think of it as a EU membership benefit. Enjoy!
    You're comparing a questionable report with the US openly lowering standards? Yet you do not see the issue with the comparison?

    And again you rather clumsy skip the article, pointing out differences in food poisoning, why relate to facts when you can nitpick right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    What's the significance of it being a month old? The EU have been insisting for years that its citizens eat pus filled sausages against the wishes of the UK. As an article from 2014 shows...

    Abbatoirs in the EU sort through the pigs to find the diseased ones, seperate them out from the good ones which are sent to Asia, and keep the manky ones for their own people.

    customers in Asian markets still insist on their pork being checked in the old way,

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27866293

    The UK should ban imports of EU food until they raise food standards to match ours. We should be insisting, like Asia, we won't eat abscess sausages. You are welcome to munch on them eurochums, think of it as a EU membership benefit. Enjoy!
    Considering you are talking about something supported by the British FSA i fail to see how you can assume the British will not continue with the rules you claim to oppose..

  3. #26383
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Will it be as bad as EU approved diseased,pus filled pork and poultry?

    Diseased meat is being eaten by consumers in the UK and EU, including pus from abscesses and tuberculosis lesions from pigs’ heads, said the European Working Community for Food Inspection and Consumer Protection (EFWFC) this week.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...inspectors-say

    Abscess sausage anyone? Makes US chlorinated chicken sound positively delightful...
    Same article:

    A spokesperson for the European commission said: “The European Union retains some of the highest food safety standards in the world – this is a key priority. This is why the European Food Safety Authority provides expert scientific advice and recommendations while national authorities are responsible to carry out inspections in accordance with the official controls legislation.

    “Any meat with lesions indicating an animal disease such as TB, or abscesses, or any pathological or organoleptic changes, must be considered as unfit for human consumption and not be placed on the market.”
    Just saying, stop being dishonest. The EU never approved diseased pork and poultry for human consumption. That's you making shit up, as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    What's the significance of it being a month old? The EU have been insisting for years that its citizens eat pus filled sausages against the wishes of the UK. As an article from 2014 shows...

    Abbatoirs in the EU sort through the pigs to find the diseased ones, seperate them out from the good ones which are sent to Asia, and keep the manky ones for their own people.

    customers in Asian markets still insist on their pork being checked in the old way,

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27866293

    The UK should ban imports of EU food until they raise food standards to match ours. We should be insisting, like Asia, we won't eat abscess sausages. You are welcome to munch on them eurochums, think of it as a EU membership benefit. Enjoy!
    First off, the EU didn't "insist for years" that its citizens eat diseased meat. That's you making shit up. Next, the rules the European Food Agency operates with, the rule changes that you are harping on about? They're based on British FSA rules. Again, same article:

    The new regulations have been drawn up by the European Food Safety Authority, an agency funded by the EU, but they are based on scientific advice from the FSA.

    The FSA's chief operating officer Andrew Rhodes told the BBC it was better to have a hands-off system using visual checks to reduce cross-contamination, because bugs like E. coli and campylobacter are causing scientists more concern.
    Which has been mentioned in both articles you linked. If you think you can escape this, think again. Those are your British rules. Thank god we're free of you, we can go ahead and make better rules now while you keep... well, to use your own words: "eating pus filled sausages". Based on the wishes of the UK. Amazing how you completely did not do your research... I would be shocked if this was not so normal for you...
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  4. #26384
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Same article:

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    Thanks for this response. I figured something like this has to be true, but it's good to see it confirmed, and with some supporting details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Same article:



    Just saying, stop being dishonest. The EU never approved diseased pork and poultry for human consumption. That's you making shit up, as usual.

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    First off, the EU didn't "insist for years" that its citizens eat diseased meat. That's you making shit up. Next, the rules the European Food Agency operates with, the rule changes that you are harping on about? They're based on British FSA rules. Again, same article:



    Which has been mentioned in both articles you linked. If you think you can escape this, think again. Those are your British rules. Thank god we're free of you, we can go ahead and make better rules now while you keep... well, to use your own words: "eating pus filled sausages". Based on the wishes of the UK. Amazing how you completely did not do your research... I would be shocked if this was not so normal for you...
    By not allowing the inspection and dissection of Pig lymph nodes the EU chose to ignore the problem and allow the pus filled nodes to be minced up and enter the EU food chain in pies and sausages unchecked.

    This was against the wishes and high standards of UK pork producers and is not and never has been accepted by Asian importers of UK pork who still insist on a manual inspection of pig carcasses.

    The British FSA at the time, before we left the EU, was an executive agency and under direct control of the EU in compliance of their low standards and regulations. The UK before Brexit had no authority to vary EU standards upwards as will be the case going forward. Thank God we are now sovereign.

    The EU are very happy for their consumers to continue to eat pus filled TB infected pork, the rest of the world are not. Why?

    Too busy legislating on the curvature of bananas I expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Too busy legislating on the curvature of bananas I expect.
    You ignore that the person you responded to, clearly showed you to be misinformed, so you come back with something even more misinformed?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...us-in-cornwall
    A Brussels ban on bendy bananas is one of the EU’s most persistent myths.

    Bananas have always been classified by quality and size for international trade. Because the standards, set by individual governments and the industry, were confusing, the European Commission was asked to draw up new rules.

    Commission regulation 2257/94 decreed that bananas in general should be “free from malformation or abnormal curvature”. Those sold as “extra class” must be perfect, “class 1” can have “slight defects of shape” and “class 2” can have full-scale “defects of shape”.

    Nothing is banned under the regulation, which sets grading rules requested by industry to make sure importers – including UK wholesalers and supermarkets – know exactly what they will be getting when they order a box of bananas.
    Liars and crooks...

    Edit: I don’t post in this thread much, because I don’t know a lot about this. The reason I knew about the bananas thing, is because it’s been all over the “things stupid people say” compilations on YouTube... cringe...
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  7. #26387
    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    Thanks for this response. I figured something like this has to be true, but it's good to see it confirmed, and with some supporting details.
    Pretty much what's up. Honestly though, I just cannot be fucked to dive into this thread anymore. In some ways, pro-Brexit people are even dumber than GOPers in the US. It's not even like the UK Government is pretending to back the average person. At least Trump is lying about giving a shit. One thing they all have in common though is the whataboutism. 'You dare criticise our dipshit Government, well what about EU nergleferglenergle?' It's a fucking shame that we have to share the UK with Tories. I'd love for them to Brexit and go make their own separatist nation.

  8. #26388
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    By not allowing the inspection and dissection of Pig lymph nodes the EU chose to ignore the problem and allow the pus filled nodes to be minced up and enter the EU food chain in pies and sausages unchecked.

    This was against the wishes and high standards of UK pork producers and is not and never has been accepted by Asian importers of UK pork who still insist on a manual inspection of pig carcasses.

    The British FSA at the time, before we left the EU, was an executive agency and under direct control of the EU in compliance of their low standards and regulations. The UK before Brexit had no authority to vary EU standards upwards as will be the case going forward. Thank God we are now sovereign.

    The EU are very happy for their consumers to continue to eat pus filled TB infected pork, the rest of the world are not. Why?

    Too busy legislating on the curvature of bananas I expect.
    https://www.food.gov.uk/about-us/who-we-are

    Who we are
    We are an independent Government department working across England, Wales and Northern Ireland to protect public health and consumers' wider interests in food. We make sure that food is safe and what it says it is.
    If you don't know these things, why do you make this shit up? Haven't you learned that I absolutely love just picking apart anything you say? It's a little hobby of mine. It feeds into me being lazy, too, because it's so goddamn easy to take whatever you say and assume the complete opposite is true. So much so that I went looking for their website knowing with absolute certainty that I would have a contradicting statement to quote within a minute. I mean, this is just sad.
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  9. #26389
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    why do you make this shit up?
    At this point, does anyone really need to ask why? This is all he seemingly has.

  10. #26390
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    At this point, does anyone really need to ask why? This is all he seemingly has.
    LOL, I don't even know why I keep asking that question in almost every post. Part of me is very puzzled and genuinely curious what his motivation is. I can't believe he's actually that stupid. And yet, he keeps on doing this... I just want him exposed, maybe. Brexiteers have long left the building here, he's the only one left... makes me wonder if he's actually a Brexiteer. I remember my first instinct and if you go back I made this accusation very early in the thread, that he's a troll. But he keeps skirting that fine line very delicately. I have some respect for his long con here, that's quite some dedication, but of course he is despicable for actively supporting the killing of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    LOL, I don't even know why I keep asking that question in almost every post. Part of me is very puzzled and genuinely curious what his motivation is. I can't believe he's actually that stupid. And yet, he keeps on doing this... I just want him exposed, maybe. Brexiteers have long left the building here, he's the only one left... makes me wonder if he's actually a Brexiteer. I remember my first instinct and if you go back I made this accusation very early in the thread, that he's a troll. But he keeps skirting that fine line very delicately. I have some respect for his long con here, that's quite some dedication, but of course he is despicable for actively supporting the killing of people.
    I know you must be concerned, your compatriots being big sausage eaters and all that but you miss the overall point.

    Someone in this segment of the topic brought up the point that chlorinated chicken of which millions of Americans consume on a daily basis, is unfit for human consumption with the inference that EU standards are higher and holier than thou.

    For some balance I would argue that EU standards, enforced on the UK until now, also allow for food IMHO unfit for human consumption.

    Enjoy your next EU sausage Slanty, don't look too closely at it, and try to forget you ever read this would be my friendly advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    https://www.food.gov.uk/about-us/who-we-are



    If you don't know these things, why do you make this shit up? Haven't you learned that I absolutely love just picking apart anything you say? It's a little hobby of mine. It feeds into me being lazy, too, because it's so goddamn easy to take whatever you say and assume the complete opposite is true. So much so that I went looking for their website knowing with absolute certainty that I would have a contradicting statement to quote within a minute. I mean, this is just sad.
    That is how Boris Johnson operated when writing articles about the EU..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I know you must be concerned, your compatriots being big sausage eaters and all that but you miss the overall point.

    Someone in this segment of the topic brought up the point that chlorinated chicken of which millions of Americans consume on a daily basis, is unfit for human consumption with the inference that EU standards are higher and holier than thou.

    For some balance I would argue that EU standards, enforced on the UK until now, also allow for food IMHO unfit for human consumption.

    Enjoy your next EU sausage Slanty, don't look too closely at it, and try to forget you ever read this would be my friendly advice.
    Not someone, everyone in this thread brought up cholorinated chicken. You seem to be the only one that doesn't care. And whataboutisms isn't going to change the fact that you'll be going from a respected member of the EU, dictating things like food standards to the EU, to someone who will have food standards dictated to them by the US. All the while you claim this is to gain control. How you're still alive going through life making the opposite of smart decisions is curious, but thankfully not my concern. What I am concerned with is exposing your lies and showcasing how you support the suffering and death of people habitually. We established that before, don't for a second presume I'm going to forget that you don't care about human lives being sacrificed for your perverse entertainment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Not someone, everyone in this thread brought up cholorinated chicken. You seem to be the only one that doesn't care. And whataboutisms isn't going to change the fact that you'll be going from a respected member of the EU, dictating things like food standards to the EU, to someone who will have food standards dictated to them by the US. All the while you claim this is to gain control. How you're still alive going through life making the opposite of smart decisions is curious, but thankfully not my concern. What I am concerned with is exposing your lies and showcasing how you support the suffering and death of people habitually. We established that before, don't for a second presume I'm going to forget that you don't care about human lives being sacrificed for your perverse entertainment.
    We never had control over our food standards whilst in the EU, we will have more now out. A clear benefit of Brexit.

    And even if everyone did bring up chlorinated chicken it still can't be as bad as pus filled sausages. And you guys eat them raw, did you never wonder why some bits of them oozed perhaps a little too much and what it was? Did you think it was just EU juicy goodness?

    News for you, it wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    We never had control over our food standards whilst in the EU, we will have more now out. A clear benefit of Brexit.
    Little England, strong and independent able to negotiate the bestest trade deals with adversaries like USA and China. At the same time not strong enough to influence food standards within her former EU club of friendly nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Little England, strong and independent able to negotiate the bestest trade deals with adversaries like USA and China. At the same time not strong enough to influence food standards within her former EU club of friendly nations.
    That's why we voted for Brexit, to prevent scenes gifted from the EU like this over the Sunday roast, it should never be allowed...

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/794418...family-dinner/

    And seriously that's why there will never be agreement over the level playing field by January if it allows things of such a low bar like this. We just don't want to compete at that level.

  17. #26397
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    That's why we voted for Brexit, to prevent scenes gifted from the EU like this over the Sunday roast, it should never be allowed...

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/794418...family-dinner/

    And seriously that's why there will never be agreement over the level playing field by January if it allows things of such a low bar like this. We just don't want to compete at that level.
    From Aldi UKs website:
    "We’re committed to sourcing our products from the UK

    As part of Aldi’s commitment to championing Great British quality, many of our products are sourced from the UK. In fact, our entire core range of fresh meat and milk is from British, Red Tractor approved farms. We are the market leader in the amount of fresh produce we sell which is British.

    The British Farming Charter

    Our commitment to British farmers is why we’ve signed up to the National Farmers Union (NFU) Back British Farming Charter. We want to meet our customer’s demand for British produce, and by supporting British farming we can become a more food secure nation – and not rely on imports."

    Looks like you can't compete at your own level either.

  18. #26398
    @dribbles is scoring some amazing own-goals here.

  19. #26399
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    @dribbles is scoring some amazing own-goals here.
    Like every rabid Brexiteer, they're not really doing any of this for any reason but to 'own the woke crew'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Little England, strong and independent able to negotiate the bestest trade deals with adversaries like USA and China. At the same time not strong enough to influence food standards within her former EU club of friendly nations.
    The idiotic notion is that his idea of "being strong" is to "control" their standards by opposing the standards of the EU, that they forced onto the EU:

    It is literally Groucho Marx', "I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member." type of self-hate. They're your own rules. And you somehow lost control because you made other people follow those same rules, and that is literally the only factor that makes those rules unbearable enough for you to subscribe as a modern vassal to another nation, actually giving up control over your rules... If he was a horse, we would have to shoot him. He's that disfunctional.
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