View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #26401
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Thanks for your support brother, leaders and peoples across the EU, publicly and privately - we are as one.
    This seems like such an odd thing to say as an extremist so extremely against the EU and being a part of it.
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  2. #26402
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Hard to post anything as a brexiteer here without it coming across as gloating.

    22 days until supremacy of EU law comes to an end in the UK and we are finally free.
    If the WA is ratified, the UK remains subject to EU rules and regulations until the end of 2020 (even any that come into force before then). Just saying

  3. #26403
    Although not entirely related to Brexit - credit where credit is due it looks as if Stormont is going to be up and running again after three years!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51068774

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    If the WA is ratified, the UK remains subject to EU rules and regulations until the end of 2020 (even any that come into force before then). Just saying
    When the UK brexit freedom starting gun fires on January 31st you are correct that all EU law will be incorporated as UK law going forward. However under the old swamp remainer parliament only the UK supreme court, which would take years, could strike EU law from the UK statute books. Under the new parliament this may now be done by 100's of magistrates up and down the land. After Brexit EU laws will be decimated from the UK in weeks post brexit.

    You might even see dribbles vs EU 2020 re bent bananas at my local magistrates court just for shits n giggles.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...hnson-confirms

  5. #26405
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    When the UK brexit freedom starting gun fires on January 31st you are correct that all EU law will be incorporated as UK law going forward. However under the old swamp remainer parliament only the UK supreme court, which would take years, could strike EU law from the UK statute books. Under the new parliament this may now be done by 100's of magistrates up and down the land. After Brexit EU laws will be decimated from the UK in weeks post brexit.

    You might even see dribbles vs EU 2020 re bent bananas at my local magistrates court just for shits n giggles.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...hnson-confirms
    So you are fine with unelected officials making laws that are binding on the uk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    When the UK brexit freedom starting gun fires on January 31st you are correct that all EU law will be incorporated as UK law going forward. However under the old swamp remainer parliament only the UK supreme court, which would take years, could strike EU law from the UK statute books. Under the new parliament this may now be done by 100's of magistrates up and down the land. After Brexit EU laws will be decimated from the UK in weeks post brexit.

    You might even see dribbles vs EU 2020 re bent bananas at my local magistrates court just for shits n giggles.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...hnson-confirms
    Uhm, I know you want to keep calling it the EU, but if those laws got incorporated into UK law it would be dribbles vs. UK re bent bananas.
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    A bunch of times actually.

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    Whatever, EU nonsense laws will no longer burden the UK.

    And what a difference a few weeks and an election make eurochums.

    This time last year Theresa May was being ordered to Brussels like a badly behaved puppy to beg for a trade deal and extension after extension. Now it is Von Duh Leyen this week summoned to beg in London for the same things for the EU from Boris.

    The shoe is on the other foot, the EU had 3 years to sort this out and failed miserably. What an EU climbdown, well now it's too late.

    EU's von der Leyen begs for UK to 'explore' soft trade deal with free movement of people

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...-Boris-Johnson

    Tick tock...

  8. #26408
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    The shoe is on the other foot, the EU had 3 years to sort this out and failed miserably.
    I may be mistaken but it was the UK that decided to leave the EU, not the other way around. Why should we sort out anything? Why did you expect someone else to sort out the mess you created?

  9. #26409
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Whatever, EU nonsense laws will no longer burden the UK.

    And what a difference a few weeks and an election make eurochums.

    This time last year Theresa May was being ordered to Brussels like a badly behaved puppy to beg for a trade deal and extension after extension. Now it is Von Duh Leyen this week summoned to beg in London for the same things for the EU from Boris.

    The shoe is on the other foot, the EU had 3 years to sort this out and failed miserably. What an EU climbdown, well now it's too late.

    EU's von der Leyen begs for UK to 'explore' soft trade deal with free movement of people

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...-Boris-Johnson

    Tick tock...
    Utter bollocks as usual. What is actually happening is that the EU officials are pointing out that Boris and his "no extension" position won't stand, because it's impossible to sort out a trade deal like this in a few months. They aren't "begging". They are quietly explaining to the toddler PM that however much he screams and screams he is going to need to face reality.

    I fully expect Boris to climb down as it becomes clear in the middle of the year that there isn't time. Just like he backed down over NI to get his agreement through.

    Expect to see a LOT more backing down by the UK as things progress. The stupidity of Brexit is going to come sharply into focus in the coming months. I'm looking forward to the mental gymnastics you are going to need to try and paint a procession of losses as somehow being a good thing.
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  10. #26410
    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    Utter bollocks as usual. What is actually happening is that the EU officials are pointing out that Boris and his "no extension" position won't stand, because it's impossible to sort out a trade deal like this in a few months. They aren't "begging". They are quietly explaining to the toddler PM that however much he screams and screams he is going to need to face reality.

    I fully expect Boris to climb down as it becomes clear in the middle of the year that there isn't time. Just like he backed down over NI to get his agreement through.

    Expect to see a LOT more backing down by the UK as things progress. The stupidity of Brexit is going to come sharply into focus in the coming months. I'm looking forward to the mental gymnastics you are going to need to try and paint a procession of losses as somehow being a good thing.
    Nah, not enough time is exactly what Boris wants because it will make a hard Brexit happen without those pesky MP's getting in the way of the worst possible result for Britain.

    There is a reason they are trying to make it law that no extension can be sought. They know very much what they are doing.
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  11. #26411
    Are we still allowed to say "Brexit," has it not been banned yet?
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    EU points out about City access to its markets, closing down if not negotiated on time

    yes, Brexit means some consequences and City losing passport privileges might bite soon-ish.

    for the math in nutshell:
    "The City earns about £205bn a year from European demand for financial services. Trade experts have described the so-called “equivalence” decision as vital for the UK’s financial services sector, which generates 11% of total tax revenues."

    tax revenue alone would be ~22,5bn and of course all the earnings are valuable as fuck to UK itself. we do not talk a total loss of those 205bn here, but some assets and revenues WILL vanish. and it's still not a punishment, just plain logic; UK cannot service EU any longer, so it goes mainland or RoI.

  13. #26413
    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    EU points out about City access to its markets, closing down if not negotiated on time

    yes, Brexit means some consequences and City losing passport privileges might bite soon-ish.

    for the math in nutshell:
    "The City earns about £205bn a year from European demand for financial services. Trade experts have described the so-called “equivalence” decision as vital for the UK’s financial services sector, which generates 11% of total tax revenues."

    tax revenue alone would be ~22,5bn and of course all the earnings are valuable as fuck to UK itself. we do not talk a total loss of those 205bn here, but some assets and revenues WILL vanish. and it's still not a punishment, just plain logic; UK cannot service EU any longer, so it goes mainland or RoI.
    And just to make it clear; those firms won't vanish. The need for their services won't vanish. They just won't be able to do what they currently do for the EU while based in the UK (which will be outside of the EU). And that's because of EU regulations that the UK demanded were put in place to protect London from outside competition.

    So all those firms are going to have to move all or part of their business to some place in the EU itself. Those high earners that pay large amounts of tax will go with them. Some business will remain, of course, but it will be smaller and will be competing with other financial centres around the world.

    The Brexit dividend just keeps on giving, doesn't it?
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  14. #26414
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    I don't think anyone gives a shit anymore.
    Count me in that camp... I'm done with reason and logic with them. And I feel a scene from a decidedly British movie (Chicken Run from Aardman Animation) sums my attitude up perfectly:

    Nick: "A'right, Fetcher... let's see if Atilla the Hen has come to her senses... shall we?"

    *Sees Chickens falling all over the place*

    Fetcher: "It's raining HEN!"

    **Babs falls on her butt in front of them**


    Nick: "What's this Caper, Love?"

    Babs: "We're FLYING!!!"

    Nick:
    "Obviously...Flippin hell!"

    Fetcher: "They're gonna kill themselves!!!"

    **Fetcher gives Nick a side-eye glance**


    Fetcher:
    "...Wanna watch?"

    Nick: "...Yeah, A'right!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    I fully expect Boris to climb down as it becomes clear in the middle of the year that there isn't time. Just like he backed down over NI to get his agreement through.
    Am I the only one who remembers Nigel Farrage and most of the YucKIP members doing a *ninjasmokeVANISH* the moment the Refferendum came up yay-to-Brexit?

    Personally, I've already had my first bout of effects of Brexit when BlowJo condemned Dumbass Dump for the killing of that General. My actual first thought was "So...why should we care what you think? When you with the EU, your opinion mattered and had actual weight.... you're now just England - A regressed group of tiny groggy islands. Why should we, or anybody else for that matter, give a shit about your thoughts anymore?"
    Last edited by mvaliz; 2020-01-11 at 07:18 PM.

  15. #26415
    As a US citizen I don't typically read anything about Brexit until it makes the news rounds, but I can't believe this shit is still going on. I understand this is a seismic change but this shit has been going on for what, 4 years now?

    I did just do a quick search and *IF* they actually leave on 1/31/2020, this shit can *STILL* extend another until the end of 2022... insane.

    I suppose it's nice to see that even though the majority of voters voted for it, government still bickers over this shit and nothing gets done for years and years like in the US.

  16. #26416
    Quote Originally Posted by alturic View Post
    I did just do a quick search and *IF* they actually leave on 1/31/2020, this shit can *STILL* extend another until the end of 2022... insane.
    .
    Most are betting it's not due to the most recent conservative wins. That's why most of us are, at this point, are just sitting back eating popcorn and watching the SS Britanic going full-steam-ahead towards the edge of the waterfall as the Passengers proudly sing "God Save the Queen"...

    All I care about now at this point is which American Company is going to buy the full legal ownership to Doctor Who when this shitshow is over.

  17. #26417
    Quote Originally Posted by Guitalp View Post
    Dumb yank has trouble understanding trade negotiations between nation-states take time shock.

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    You vastly overstate the ability of inbred upper-class morons to do anything at all.
    Oh, for the past 4 years they've been negotiating trading arrangements? I apologize. Silly me, I thought they've been bickering over leaving, when to leave, how to leave, etc.

  18. #26418
    Quote Originally Posted by alturic View Post
    Oh, for the past 4 years they've been negotiating trading arrangements? I apologize. Silly me, I thought they've been bickering over leaving, when to leave, how to leave, etc.
    What's been bickered over is essentially just how to do the withdrawal of the UK from the EU.

    The withdrawal agreement is what it says on the tin, it isn't a trade deal, we've barely even gotten started on that part yet.

  19. #26419
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    In other news that I happened to stumble upon (and I know you all want to hear) no chlorinated chickens for us!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51054700
    Theresa Villiers told the BBC the current European Union ban on the two foods will be carried over into UK legislation after Brexit.

    Until now the UK has been wavering on the issue.

    But she told BBC Countryfile: “There are legal barriers to the imports and those are going to stay in place.”
    Brexit hasn't happened yet, the US hasn't started slicing its pound of flesh off your pasty ass-cheeks, so these are just empty words.

    In any case I'd be more concerned about your NHS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitalp View Post
    Dumb yank has trouble understanding trade negotiations between nation-states take time shock.
    Especially when one side of the negotiations spends four years sticking their heads in the sand and shoving pineapples up their assholes instead of negotiating. Because as soon as they actually get into the negotiations they'd have to accept that they have significantly less leverage than they promised voters and will not get the results they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    And just to make it clear; those firms won't vanish. The need for their services won't vanish. They just won't be able to do what they currently do for the EU while based in the UK (which will be outside of the EU). And that's because of EU regulations that the UK demanded were put in place to protect London from outside competition.

    So all those firms are going to have to move all or part of their business to some place in the EU itself. Those high earners that pay large amounts of tax will go with them. Some business will remain, of course, but it will be smaller and will be competing with other financial centres around the world.

    The Brexit dividend just keeps on giving, doesn't it?
    Nonsense, those firms need to go nowhere, least of all the EU. There are only two truly global financial centres, London and New York. And the EU is about to lose access to one of those unless they come to the table and their senses. Will the EU run out of money? Not be able to insure their shipping? It's going to get much more expensive for the EU for those financial services once New York realises they have a monopoly on them.

    Oh and that EU/UK trade deal? The UK public demand the EU goes to the back of the queue, they've wasted enough of our time.

    In the poll, we gave the readers eight countries to choose from and in overwhelming fashion, they insisted Mr Johnson should agree a trade deal with the US first.

    Out of 6,602, 4,287 voted for the US while in second, 911 voted for Australia followed by 544 for the EU.


    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...-deal-leave-eu

    Hear Hear!

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