View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #26901
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    What are the EU going to do if the UK rips the WA up in favour of a no deal Australian arrangement?
    A what now?
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    You can add in Belgium to the list, torpedoing the economy based on lies and wanting more benefits while already being the nation who had the most exceptions in the EU is not something that is going down well anywhere.
    seconded by an austrian ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    You can add in Belgium to the list, torpedoing the economy based on lies and wanting more benefits while already being the nation who had the most exceptions in the EU is not something that is going down well anywhere.
    At long last Denmark is first

    They said we could never be first, that there would always be the UK but look at us now, we are number one

    We have the most opt outs

    All we had to do was wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    At long last Denmark is first

    They said we could never be first, that there would always be the UK but look at us now, we are number one

    We have the most opt outs

    All we had to do was wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    At long last Denmark is first

    They said we could never be first, that there would always be the UK but look at us now, we are number one

    We have the most opt outs

    All we had to do was wait
    You wait long enough, someone fucks up. It's a rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    Still got nearly a year until freedom of movement of goods, capital and people stops.
    As a curious Yank. Is there any kind of analog to "The Resistance" or "Women's March" in the works?

    Whats the state of the Left in the UK?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Let me remind you, WE HAVE LEFT.
    You are sitting in a club, that has a set of rules. You are still required to obey those rules. You've handed in your resignation from the club, but at the moment you are still sat in an old leather armchair, smoking a cigar and reading The Times. All the facilities of the club are still open to you, although you've already given up any say in rule changes that occur between now and when you actually leave.

    To anybody with a functioning brain, that looks an awful lot like someone that hasn't left yet. Regardless of his intention to leave, regardless of whether he has said he's going to leave. Regardless of whether his leaving is an inevitability. He still hasn't fucking left yet.

    Even after your pyrrhic victory, the urge to lie from you Brexiteers just can't be tamed, can it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demolitia View Post
    So your government is using its new found freedom actively looking for ways to half ass the first international agreement it signed. That will surely scream trustworthiness and good faith to your potential future partners. It's certainly a sure way to stay on WTO terms for quite a while.
    Things might be different if there was any chance the UK would break up, but the United Kingdom is rock solid united and behind the position Boris is taking.in threatening to rip up the WA.

    And for those project fear doomsayers predicting UK disintegration because of brexit and who can't accept WE HAVE LEFT, latest polling in NI shows 29% for and 52% against a united Ireland.

    Just 29% in Northern Ireland would vote for unity, major study reveals

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-38966196.html

    Rule Britannia!

    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    You are sitting in a club, that has a set of rules. You are still required to obey those rules. You've handed in your resignation from the club, but at the moment you are still sat in an old leather armchair, smoking a cigar and reading The Times. All the facilities of the club are still open to you, although you've already given up any say in rule changes that occur between now and when you actually leave.

    To anybody with a functioning brain, that looks an awful lot like someone that hasn't left yet. Regardless of his intention to leave, regardless of whether he has said he's going to leave. Regardless of whether his leaving is an inevitability. He still hasn't fucking left yet.

    Even after your pyrrhic victory, the urge to lie from you Brexiteers just can't be tamed, can it?
    We are sitting in our old antique leather armchair, that we paid for, waiting for the removal men to arrive to take it away. No the EU are not keeping it, that is all, no more no less.
    Last edited by dribbles; 2020-02-24 at 06:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker76 View Post
    As a curious Yank. Is there any kind of analog to "The Resistance" or "Women's March" in the works?

    Whats the state of the Left in the UK?
    The left is young, active and vocal. It is fairly well organised. It is also hugely outnumbered by a bloc of boomers that vote partly to defend what little they have, partly because they've been brainwashed by the MSM for decades and partly because they are still a fair bit racist.

    If only the under 50s had voted in the last election, the left would have won at a canter. The boomers are fucking idiots, sadly, and they voted for a lying blonde cunt who told them he could fix everything with a sucession of magic unicorns. Most of them will be dead before we can fix the implications of their "democratic" desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    We are sitting in our old antique leather armchair, that we paid for, waiting for the removal men to arrive to take it away. No the EU are not keeping it, that is all, no more no less.
    At least you are now admitting that you haven't left yet. That much managed to get through the fact barrier you've erected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    At least you are now admitting that you haven't left yet. That much managed to get through the fact barrier you've erected.
    Only to gather our belongings before some EU scoundrel snaffles our leather armchair away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Only to gather our belongings before some EU scoundrel snaffles our leather armchair away.
    But you are still. In. The club. Lol.

    Plus even once you’re out of it as said if you renege on the WA the EU can simply tie you lot up with complaints and sanctions by the WTO.

    Meaning you get *no* trade deal with anyone unless you play nice.

    Has reality finally hit yet? This is what life looks like on the outside. You get no say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Has reality finally hit yet?
    I meaaaaan.... he said this. So I highly doubt it.

    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    the United Kingdom is rock solid united and behind the position Boris is taking.in threatening to rip up the WA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    I meaaaaan.... he said this. So I highly doubt it.
    Strangely, I think that's the plan.

    Boris and the Brexiteers seem perfectly willing to brutalise their own population as long as it means keeping the EU as a scapegoat to enact the worse, most elitist, most bigoted policies possible.

    For Dribbles, Brussels has become an eternal Reichstag Fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    But you are still. In. The club. Lol.

    Plus even once you’re out of it as said if you renege on the WA the EU can simply tie you lot up with complaints and sanctions by the WTO.

    Meaning you get *no* trade deal with anyone unless you play nice.

    Has reality finally hit yet? This is what life looks like on the outside. You get no say.
    /sigh There are hundreds and hundreds of ongoing complaints between every country at the WTO

    https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e...spu_maps_e.htm

    From that map you would think global trade has been shutdown, oh wait... Let the EU wail like a baby to the WTO, it won't change a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    /sigh There are hundreds and hundreds of ongoing complaints between every country at the WTO

    https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e...spu_maps_e.htm

    From that map you would think global trade has been shutdown, oh wait... Let the EU wail like a baby to the WTO, it won't change a thing.
    Did you forget that practically none of these countries trade solely on WTO roles, either, and have other trade agreements to fall back on? The UK does not, and won't given that Boris has indicated no agreement with him or the English are worth anything more than paper.

    Turns out when you trade solely on WTO roles their say is disproportionate on your trade. Your fault, not the EU's. Y'all could have had a customs union.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Things might be different if there was any chance the UK would break up, but the United Kingdom is rock solid united and behind the position Boris is taking.in threatening to rip up the WA.

    And for those project fear doomsayers predicting UK disintegration because of brexit and who can't accept WE HAVE LEFT, latest polling in NI shows 29% for and 52% against a united Ireland.

    Just 29% in Northern Ireland would vote for unity, major study reveals

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-38966196.html

    Rule Britannia!
    This is not what I was talking about. I don't care if there is a 100% majority for it, and the Queen publicly says she favours this route. You are cheering at the fact that your government's very first action in January 2021, when you're really, really out, will be to violate a WA that passed into law less than a year before by an overwhelming majority.
    For a Nation with renewed global ambitions, violating international agreements on day 1 is really absolute fucking genius

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demolitia View Post
    This is not what I was talking about. I don't care if there is a 100% majority for it, and the Queen publicly says she favours this route. You are cheering at the fact that your government's very first action in January 2021, when you're really, really out, will be to violate a WA that passed into law less than a year before by an overwhelming majority.
    For a Nation with renewed global ambitions, violating international agreements on day 1 is really absolute fucking genius
    Moreover, violating the only agreement parliament could manage to produce something approximating consensus on really shows every MP how much their vote is worth to the government (i.e. not at all).

    Brexit has become a gang of Eton-educated thugs raping the UK for everything it's worth before it collapses economically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Did you forget that practically none of these countries trade solely on WTO roles, either, and have other trade agreements to fall back on? The UK does not, and won't given that Boris has indicated no agreement with him or the English are worth anything more than paper.

    Turns out when you trade solely on WTO roles their say is disproportionate on your trade. Your fault, not the EU's. Y'all could have had a customs union.
    I have to say, the mean side of me quite enjoys the realisation of some people just now learning how shit WTO rules actually are. I mean, they were told but, damned if they don't have to find out by themselves to actually let it sink in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    I have to say, the mean side of me quite enjoys the realisation of some people just now learning how shit WTO rules actually are. I mean, they were told but, damned if they don't have to find out by themselves to actually let it sink in.
    I think we hit peak comedy with the "I hope you've learned your lesson about buying EU goods since the UK will just delay their transit across the Atlantic" when the obvious outcome is that these companies are just going to start routing shipping directly through continent. Or Ireland.

    Honestly I will confess some surprise at BoJo actually reneging on this WA considering getting it passed brought down a government and that doing so will start the UK's "independence" off with a declaration of political unreliability but...this is the bad timeline.

    I think in the good timeline the British government managed to reform and set the grounds for a genuinely British identity rather than retreating further into English colonialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    I have to say, the mean side of me quite enjoys the realisation of some people just now learning how shit WTO rules actually are. I mean, they were told but, damned if they don't have to find out by themselves to actually let it sink in.
    It's quite amazing to see how sheer hatred for the EU just blinds them to the alternative (or lack thereof).
    It feels like watching a friend joining scientology.
    Me: " you know they'll just take your money and brainwash you, right?"
    Brexiteer: "fuck you, Tom Cruise is awesome"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    I think we hit peak comedy with the "I hope you've learned your lesson about buying EU goods since the UK will just delay their transit across the Atlantic" when the obvious outcome is that these companies are just going to start routing shipping directly through continent. Or Ireland.

    Honestly I will confess some surprise at BoJo actually reneging on this WA considering getting it passed brought down a government and that doing so will start the UK's "independence" off with a declaration of political unreliability but...this is the bad timeline.

    I think in the good timeline the British government managed to reform and set the grounds for a genuinely British identity rather than retreating further into English colonialism.
    Or he just signed something he didn't completely understand and is now drafting an army of lawyers to try and weasel his way out of it.
    Last edited by Demolitia; 2020-02-24 at 08:44 PM.

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