[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[shimerra]

If anything, I'll give dribbles kudos for his ability to stay within the delusion and absolve himself (and all Brexiteers) of any responsibility.

Well, at least until something good happens and its all thanks to them, ofc.

Best part is much of his link would have happened had they hard brexited like he wanted. Like the airplane issues. Brexiters had zero plan for how to deal with that under a crash out situation. Some of it was only avoided because Boris the bitch Johnson caved because the UK negotiating position was never as strong as they claimed.

And now we have a UK whose still beholden to the EU but with no say in running it. Good job brexit! Enjoy paying more for EU goods and earning less for selling british goods. If you can at all.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

I look forward to perhaps 10 years from now Brexiteers from the UK on mmo-c will be in the majority heading towards their 50's as they browse their SAGA brochures and it will be a much more pleasant forum for them to be on.

Why should there be more brexiteers, when brexit has happened? The reason to be a Brexiteer is gone. Has been gone for nearly a year now. Get over it and move on.

Classic Dribbo though. Deflect blame, deflect responsibility (unless he thinks something is good, then he's all about claiming it as his own). Everything good is because of Brexit, everything bad is because of those who opposed Brexit. Am I right?

What a blessed simple life it must be, to be able to only see black and white and avoid those nasty shades of grey that everybody else sees.

[shimerra]

Good job we have that new compensation fund for those fisheries that can't sell shit, eh? A very clearly Brexit benefit! We'd have never got that while being part of the dreaded EU!!

Just like Trump's trade wars forcing him to pay US farmers billions because they couldn't sell their goods anymore to cover the losses he forced them to take. Which also wasn't socialism because reasons.

Honest to God Brexit was the UKs way of trying to out stupid the US for electing trump.

I don't recall what @dribbles opinion was on the socialist handouts UK fishers now need because they can't run their businesses thanks to Brexit.

[Iliena]

I would like to apologise on behalf of the UK for Dribbles.

He doesn't speak for any of us with any sense, so please ignore his drivel.

[Huehuecoyotl]

*Snip*

So, more nonsense from you. And an "explanation" for why if Brexit goes wrong, it's somehow the fault of Remainers for not trying hard enough to keep us in the EU.

The trouble is, we've seen you posting here long enough that it's impossible to tell whether this is a blatant troll to get a rise out of people, or it's actually what you think. There is no position that's too ridiculous for you to take. No amount of facts that you can't ignore to stick to a world view that defies both those facts and any form of logic.

So, I'll treat your post as your real view, and give it the response it deserves. No. It won't be our fault. It will be the fault of the people that took us out with lies and falsehoods. That promised the moon and delivered a neck deep lake of shit. That got into bed with racists and bigots regardless of how that made them look. That used those people to drive a result that damaged this country and the people in it; including those people ignorant enough to believe that Brexit would somehow magically make their lives better.

Your fault. And if you weren't on this forum either pretending to have the intellect of a teenager that is throwing a tantrum, or actually having such an intellect, you'd accept that. After all, you've been so vocal about taking the credit for Brexit happening, why can't you accept the results of that Brexit? Have you never had to accept any responsibility like an adult your entire life?

It would explain a lot.

[sircaw]

So, more nonsense from you. And an "explanation" for why if Brexit goes wrong, it's somehow the fault of Remainers for not trying hard enough to keep us in the EU.

The trouble is, we've seen you posting here long enough that it's impossible to tell whether this is a blatant troll to get a rise out of people, or it's actually what you think. There is no position that's too ridiculous for you to take. No amount of facts that you can't ignore to stick to a world view that defies both those facts and any form of logic.

So, I'll treat your post as your real view, and give it the response it deserves. No. It won't be our fault. It will be the fault of the people that took us out with lies and falsehoods. That promised the moon and delivered a neck deep lake of shit. That got into bed with racists and bigots regardless of how that made them look. That used those people to drive a result that damaged this country and the people in it; including those people ignorant enough to believe that Brexit would somehow magically make their lives better.

Your fault. And if you weren't on this forum either pretending to have the intellect of a teenager that is throwing a tantrum, or actually having such an intellect, you'd accept that. After all, you've been so vocal about taking the credit for Brexit happening, why can't you accept the results of that Brexit? Have you never had to accept any responsibility like an adult your entire life?

It would explain a lot.

You really need to start getting behind your country and accept the result that we have left. A couple of you guys are beginning to sound like those antifa guys in portland with the fuck Joe sign, let it all burn etc.

You also need to stop talking as everyone is some sort of racist or a bigot, People voted for many different reasons, but you're trying to paint them all as if they are the Hitler ss youth brigade or something.

If you have a problem with lies, go protest against the people that made those lies, stop trying to take it out on people that have recorded their vote in a democratic process.

Are they a couple of racists that voted to leave the EU, there sure are but that's like calling the entire remain party a bunch of perverts if a couple of pedo's voted to stay? It's not right and you and some of the others on this thread need to stop it.

Get behind your country and stop trying to tear it down all the time, we have had years of this shit already.

Accept the result and stop with your constant hate.

[shimerra]

You really need to start getting behind your country and accept the result that we have left. A couple of you guys are beginning to sound like those antifa guys in portland with the fuck Joe sign, let it all burn etc.

You also need to stop talking as everyone is some sort of racist or a bigot, People voted for many different reasons, but you're trying to paint them all as if they are the Hitler ss youth brigade or something.

If you have a problem with lies, go protest against the people that made those lies, stop trying to take it out on people that have recorded their vote in a democratic process.

Are they a couple of racists that voted to leave the EU, there sure are but that's like calling the entire remain party a bunch of perverts if a couple of pedo's voted to stay? It's not right and you and some of the others on this thread need to stop it.

Get behind your country and stop trying to tear it down all the time, we have had years of this shit already.

Accept the result and stop with your constant hate.

He can accept the result and constantly remind you how people like yourself fucked you and your whole country.

And he is going against them as well as people like you and dribbles for gobbling up such obvious lies and spreading them. And yes you deserve every ounce of shit you get for going along with the often racist propaganda many Brexiters pushed.


Getting behind his country means fixing the problem you dumb fucks made and not allowing you to make it worse. I don't know where you got the idea that once you screw up you have to stick with it. That's a literal sunk cost fallacy argument.


There is no part of accepting the result that requires anyone to let you or other Brexiters off the hook for their terrible choices.

[LeGin Tufnel]

Get behind your country and stop trying to tear it down all the time, we have had years of this shit already.

Provide one quote from me, Huhue or any other Brit poster in this thread as evidence of what you've written above.

Criticism of Brexit and Brexiteers ≠ (does not equal, by the way) tearing down one's country.

So - either you cannot understand this concept or this is a bait post and you are a troll.

The irony is that the the only instance of genuine UK-bashing in the last month or so it was me who pointed it out & challenged the poster. Neither your or Dribbles did.

[Crispin]

You really need to start getting behind your country and accept the result that we have left. A couple of you guys are beginning to sound like those antifa guys in portland with the fuck Joe sign, let it all burn etc.

You also need to stop talking as everyone is some sort of racist or a bigot, People voted for many different reasons, but you're trying to paint them all as if they are the Hitler ss youth brigade or something.

If you have a problem with lies, go protest against the people that made those lies, stop trying to take it out on people that have recorded their vote in a democratic process.

Are they a couple of racists that voted to leave the EU, there sure are but that's like calling the entire remain party a bunch of perverts if a couple of pedo's voted to stay? It's not right and you and some of the others on this thread need to stop it.

Get behind your country and stop trying to tear it down all the time, we have had years of this shit already.

Accept the result and stop with your constant hate.

Haha I wonder if nazis said the same to people opposing the party. “Get behind your country!” (Not calling you a nazi, but it’s quite fun that people should fall in line, even tho the line is not one they agree with and have freedom of speech)

Here’s another “win” for brexit

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...land-wwzpdlg7b

What good have brexit done for britain so far? And drop the “freedom” nonsense, you’re as free as you were 2 years ago.

[LeGin Tufnel]

You ask for more links of the remain side lies that turned out to be nonsense but there are just too many. In the interests of supporting you on your inevitable personal journey from sceptical remainer, not FBPE as you claim and I accept, to wise brexiteer like me here is a list of more than 20 to start you off.

https://twitter.com/AllianceBE/statu...77994784321537

Enjoy.

1) Unproven that this [infectious diseases such as super-gonorrhoea could spread more rapidly if the UK leaves the European Union, health chiefs have warned] won’t happen. Anyway, you’re the one who visits Austrian brothels, not me.

2) Unproven because a trade deal was reached.

3) see 2

4) Unproven. As far as I’m aware, there’s still a shortage of ventilators.

5) The statement (We were told the only way to get vaccines fast and efficiently was through the #EU. #Brexit 'would delay things'. Instead the UK fast tracked approval and is a month ahead of Brussels, saving thousands of lives) bears no relation to the linked article.

6) see 2.

Honestly, this Twitter feed. Is it you? The language is the same.

Then, of course, you look a bit deeper and…

https://brexitballs.com/fakes-debunk...h-entrpeneurs/

Turns out the grand “Alliance” of “SMEs and entrepreneurs” is partly a collection of random fakes, one man bands, dormant companies, shell Ltds,

@dribbles - I never thought I’d ask this but… are you Russian?

[Demolitia]

1) Unproven that this [infectious diseases such as super-gonorrhoea could spread more rapidly if the UK leaves the European Union, health chiefs have warned] won’t happen. Anyway, you’re the one who visits Austrian brothels, not me.

2) Unproven because a trade deal was reached.

3) see 2

4) Unproven. As far as I’m aware, there’s still a shortage of ventilators.

5) The statement (We were told the only way to get vaccines fast and efficiently was through the #EU. #Brexit 'would delay things'. Instead the UK fast tracked approval and is a month ahead of Brussels, saving thousands of lives) bears no relation to the linked article.

6) see 2.

Honestly, this Twitter feed. Is it you? The language is the same.

Then, of course, you look a bit deeper and…

https://brexitballs.com/fakes-debunk...h-entrpeneurs/

Turns out the grand “Alliance” of “SMEs and entrepreneurs” is partly a collection of random fakes, one man bands, dormant companies, shell Ltds,

@dribbles - I never thought I’d ask this but… are you Russian?

They can't even spell gonorrhea properly. Great journalism.
I hope Dribs and sircaw are from king's landing because all they deserve is a good walk of shame and shit flung at them.

[sircaw]

Haha I wonder if nazis said the same to people opposing the party. “Get behind your country!” (Not calling you a nazi, but it’s quite fun that people should fall in line, even tho the line is not one they agree with and have freedom of speech)

Here’s another “win” for brexit

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...land-wwzpdlg7b

What good have brexit done for britain so far? And drop the “freedom” nonsense, you’re as free as you were 2 years ago.

I am surprised that none of you guys have mentioned the Sunderland car deal that Nissan spoke about yesterday and today, it was all over the news.

But ofcouse that positive news has been completely negated and the more usual negative spin has been pumped out.

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He can accept the result and constantly remind you how people like yourself fucked you and your whole country.

And he is going against them as well as people like you and dribbles for gobbling up such obvious lies and spreading them. And yes you deserve every ounce of shit you get for going along with the often racist propaganda many Brexiters pushed.


Getting behind his country means fixing the problem you dumb fucks made and not allowing you to make it worse. I don't know where you got the idea that once you screw up you have to stick with it. That's a literal sunk cost fallacy argument.


There is no part of accepting the result that requires anyone to let you or other Brexiters off the hook for their terrible choices.

Another typical negative reply that just insults people, i have not spread propaganda like you are insinuating, i prefer to talk a more positive approach to my countries future than you do with all your gloom and fear-mongering. For some reason, it sounds like you want the UK to fail.

The results are final you need to accept it and stop getting your knickers all in a twist, its time to move the country forward and stop acting like a child.

[LeGin Tufnel]

OMFG

Can you not read?

I’ll give you a piece of ‘good’ news for free:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55757930 Nissan commits to keep making cars in Sunderland

However, note that the commitment is a direct result of the trade deal. Also note, that Nissan aren’t confirming this will mean additional jobs. In short: maintaining the status quo.

Where’s the Brexit dividend, huh?

[sircaw]

They can't even spell gonorrhea properly. Great journalism.
I hope Dribs and sircaw are from king's landing because all they deserve is a good walk of shame and shit flung at them.

What shit have i flung?

Name it here, trying to be positive about my country is me flinging shit, are you really that desperate to fabricate stuff about me? What have i said wrong, come on. Shame on you for saying i should be shamed for something that has nothing to do with me.

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OMFG

Can you not read?

did that hurt you to post that? did it kill you to post it. No it did not.

In the future try and be fair instead of your usual looking at the glass half empty.

Be better please and stop being so narrow minded.



'Belief in Britain'
Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng welcomed the firm's endorsement of Sunderland as a manufacturing base.

"Nissan's decision represents a genuine belief in Britain and a huge vote of confidence in our economy thanks to the certainty our trade deal with the EU delivers," he said.

[shimerra]

Another typical negative reply that just insults people, i have not spread propaganda like you are insinuating, i prefer to talk a more positive approach to my countries future than you do with all your gloom and fear-mongering. For some reason, it sounds like you want the UK to fail.

The results are final you need to accept it and stop getting your knickers all in a twist, its time to move the country forward and stop acting like a child.

Only one who is being a child is you who expects me to coddle you. I won't. I expect adults to take responsibility for the consequences of their choices and not hide behind claims of unity and some false finality of the "result".

You made a stupid choice and now you get to lie in your own filth. And no I won't be quiet while you continue to rub shit over yourself and tell me it's perfume. I'll continue to remind you it's shit and it smells and to please stop eating it.

The results are final. You made a stupid choice. Accept the consequences and stop acting like I'm your nanny whose put off changing your nappy for too long.

I'm not surprised you weren't smart enough to understand my point. I don't want the UK to fail. That's why I constantly corrected the idiocy of brexit and it's supporters. You chose to fail and are now for some reason acting like I'm the asshole here for correctly calling you out. My concern for the UK means I'll never not hold people like you who try and drag it into the gutters accountable. I'm sorry I care more about your country than you seem to.

You have spread propaganda in this very thread. And you're doubling down on defending the results of said propaganda now. Your approach isn't simply a positive attitude. It's lies and a refusal to accept reality. Which helps no one who actually wants a positive future for the UK.


Tell me why do you constantly fall behind a false narrative that everyone who wasn't for Brexit must be against the UK? While I think your choice was profoundly stupid and has hurt the UK in the long wrong I don't doubt that in your mind you thought you were helping. That was the point of the propaganda and lies to convince you you were helping when you weren't. And it's my job to rub your face in reality and the facts of Brexit.

[sircaw]

Only one who is being a child is you who expects me to coddle you. I won't. I expect adults to take responsibility for the consequences of their choices and not hide behind claims of units and some false finality of the "result".

You made a stupid choice and now you get to lie in your own filth. And no I won't be quiet while you continue to rub shit over yourself and tell me it's perfume. I'll continue to remind you it's shit and it smells and to please stop eating it.

The results are final. You made a stupid choice. Accept the consequences and stop acting like I'm your nanny whose put off changing your nappy for too long.

I'm not surprised you weren't smart enough to understand my point. I don't want the UK to fail. That's why I constantly corrected the idiocy of brexit and it's supporters. You chose to fail and are now for some reason acting like I'm the asshole here for correctly calling you out. My concern for the UK means I'll never not hold people like you who try and drag it into the gutters accountable. I'm sorry I care more about your country than you seem to.

You have spread propaganda in this very thread. And you're doubling down on defending the results of said propaganda now.

You are just talking rubbish, show me the propaganda i have spread. The problem is your so used to having your own way in this thread you just think you can say what you want and get away with it. What Propaganda have i spread.

I love my country and i want it to do well, is that propaganda? no its not, shame on you for openly lying and trying to fabricate a narrative against me.

Your points are all ad hominem, and very petty.

[Combatbutler]

did that hurt you to post that? did it kill you to post it. No it did not.

In the future try and be fair instead of your usual looking at the glass half empty.

Be better please and stop being so narrow minded.

Missing the point, but what else can you expect from a brexiteer, it had been posted prior to your little accusation that no one mentioned it before. But then again not paying attention to such details is par the course, for likes of you.

[sircaw]

Missing the point, but what else can you expect from a brexiteer, it had been posted prior to your little accusation that no one mentioned it before. But then again not paying attention to such details is par the course, for likes of you.

i am not missing any point, this thread has 100s of pages of the usual Uk is doomed for ever, you post one positive thing everyone is against it. I am allowed to be positive about my country, that is the point.

But if you are you speak positively about your country you are insulted, with you are a troll, told to fuck off, told your to stupid to understand whats going on, you should lay in your own filth, you should have a walk of shame and lastely told your talking propaganda.


Am i missing the point, i dont think so.

[Combatbutler]

i am not missing any point, this thread has 100s of pages of the usual Uk is doomed for ever, you post one positive thing everyone is against it. I am allowed to be positive about my country, that is the point.

If you want to live in your own little delusional world, with a strong UK you can, but others are well within their right to attack that worldview.

[sircaw]

If you want to live in your own little delusional world, with a strong UK you can, but others are well within their right to attack that worldview.

Read back above thanks, and whats delusional wanting your country to succeed. Others do not have the right to insult me, thank you.