View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
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    Quote Originally Posted by sircaw View Post
    You really need to have a good look at yourself.
    Your lack of understanding context is worrisome.
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Your lack of understanding context is worrisome.
    Unfortunately your so self absorbed and pretentious, that you can't see anyone's viewpoint but yours.
    This is my last reply post to you, but i suggest you go back and read some of your replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sircaw View Post
    Unfortunately your so self absorbed and pretentious, that you can't see anyone's viewpoint but yours.
    This is my last reply post to you, but i suggest you go back and read some of your replies.
    Finally, thanks, have you read up on the word hypocrisy or anything else you've thrown at me and realized you've barked at the wrong tree?
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

  4. #27264
    Barnier has tested positive for Coronavirus.

    https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/st...83782643773440

    I hope he - and anyone who has it - makes a speedy recovery.

    Obviously his absence is a big blow to the whole Brexit negotiations and I wonder how long it will be before they are put on hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Barnier has tested positive for Coronavirus.

    https://twitter.com/MichelBarnier/st...83782643773440

    I hope he - and anyone who has it - makes a speedy recovery.

    Obviously his absence is a big blow to the whole Brexit negotiations and I wonder how long it will be before they are put on hold.
    I honestly can't believe that they haven't triggered an extension already with what's going on. The whole of Europe is going to have enough to worry about for the next year or two sorting this mess out and trying to recover from the impact. Neither side needs the additional effort of trying to figure out how Brexit is going to work, let alone the negative impact it will have. There simply won't be the bandwidth for it.

    I agree with you that an extension at this point looks inevitable. And sensible. The fact that dribbles will hate it is just a bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    I honestly can't believe that they haven't triggered an extension already with what's going on. The whole of Europe is going to have enough to worry about for the next year or two sorting this mess out and trying to recover from the impact. Neither side needs the additional effort of trying to figure out how Brexit is going to work, let alone the negative impact it will have. There simply won't be the bandwidth for it.

    I agree with you that an extension at this point looks inevitable. And sensible. The fact that dribbles will hate it is just a bonus.
    That made me laugh harder then I should have. But.. where is Dribbles anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    I honestly can't believe that they haven't triggered an extension already with what's going on. The whole of Europe is going to have enough to worry about for the next year or two sorting this mess out and trying to recover from the impact. Neither side needs the additional effort of trying to figure out how Brexit is going to work, let alone the negative impact it will have. There simply won't be the bandwidth for it.

    I agree with you that an extension at this point looks inevitable. And sensible. The fact that dribbles will hate it is just a bonus.
    I think it's simply a case of everyone having their hands full with more important things. With everything, everyone is having to deal at present I don't expect to hear anything about the possibility of an extension until much closer to the June deadline.

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    That made me laugh harder then I should have. But.. where is Dribbles anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    I honestly can't believe that they haven't triggered an extension already with what's going on. The whole of Europe is going to have enough to worry about for the next year or two sorting this mess out and trying to recover from the impact. Neither side needs the additional effort of trying to figure out how Brexit is going to work, let alone the negative impact it will have. There simply won't be the bandwidth for it.

    I agree with you that an extension at this point looks inevitable. And sensible. The fact that dribbles will hate it is just a bonus.
    Well sorry to be the bearer of bad news, for you not me, but...

    British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab has dismissed suggestions that the Brexit transition period will have to be extended because of the coronavirus.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/uk/2020/0317...avirus-brexit/

    Skype, Line, Facetime etc etc UK negotiators won't let a spot of Covid bother stop them, you would think the EU might have heard of those apps...

    If anything this Covid outbreak and the inevitable financial consequences re EU wide bail outs makes ending the transition on time without delay more urgent than ever. If only I had a roll of toilet paper for every excuse remainers come up with for delaying UK progress on anything EU related. Remainers trying to weaponise the Coronavirus is a new low, have some dignity man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Well sorry to be the bearer of bad news, for you not me, but...

    British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab has dismissed suggestions that the Brexit transition period will have to be extended because of the coronavirus.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/uk/2020/0317...avirus-brexit/

    Skype, Line, Facetime etc etc UK negotiators won't let a spot of Covid bother stop them, you would think the EU might have heard of those apps...

    If anything this Covid outbreak and the inevitable financial consequences re EU wide bail outs makes ending the transition on time without delay more urgent than ever. If only I had a roll of toilet paper for every excuse remainers come up with for delaying UK progress on anything EU related. Remainers trying to weaponise the Coronavirus is a new low, have some dignity man...
    Dominic Raab is a brainless cunt. I wouldn't trust him to tell me the ingredients in a glass of water. Anything he says can be readily dismissed as "probably, in fact almost certainly, wrong".

    And this is nothing to do with whether we can continue these negotiations or not. Of course Skype and the like exists. Rather it's a question of whether we should be wasting effort on them when frankly we have far more important things to worry about. I would rather we focus all our efforts on managing the impact of the virus, and ensuring our country and the people in it are damaged as little as possible. You would rather continue to advance Brexit, even if it damages those efforts and is detrimental to the country or people.

    But I wouldn't expect pragmatism or common sense to come between you and your mania for Brexit. At least you're consistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Well sorry to be the bearer of bad news, for you not me, but...

    British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab has dismissed suggestions that the Brexit transition period will have to be extended because of the coronavirus.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/uk/2020/0317...avirus-brexit/

    Skype, Line, Facetime etc etc UK negotiators won't let a spot of Covid bother stop them, you would think the EU might have heard of those apps...

    If anything this Covid outbreak and the inevitable financial consequences re EU wide bail outs makes ending the transition on time without delay more urgent than ever. If only I had a roll of toilet paper for every excuse remainers come up with for delaying UK progress on anything EU related. Remainers trying to weaponise the Coronavirus is a new low, have some dignity man...
    I might be wrong but Raab's comments come across to me as simply sticking to current Gov. policyand at present there are more pressing things to deal with than examining that position.

    Looking at the respective positions we're miles apart and I don't think that without a drastic change in either position that the result of the negotiations will be anything other than no deal with that said there is no way either of us can implement what's needed for no-deal whilst dealing with the fallout from Coronavirus - hopefully the disease will be contained by the end of the year - so I fully expect that there to be an extension of six months to a year, possibly more depending on how bad it gets.

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    Well sorry to be the bearer of bad news, for you not me, but...

    British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab has dismissed suggestions that the Brexit transition period will have to be extended because of the coronavirus.
    No one believes that if the virus reaches Italy levels that Brexit won't be extended. The government will likely be unable to do anything at all unless its progress can be checked.

    Society could well be close to breaking down in two months if the virus continues to infect people with exponential growth.

    Additionally, you can usually tell when Raab is lying. He has a tell. His lips move.

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    @dribbles on a slightly unrelated note - the coronavirus crisis is going to put immense strain on every nation and the EU's policy of monetary but not fiscal union may end up be particularly exposed, as a result the EU may emerge from the crisis in a totally different form as to what exists today. It might well result in federalisation plans being accelerated and further integration - which obviously you'd want no part of - but it could also decide that federalisation is not the answer and revert to a looser relationship between members.

    If - and this is a big 'if' which I am not saying it will happen - the EU decided to reverse some of it's integrated policies and return to something similar to the EEC what would your thoughts on Brexit be then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    @dribbles on a slightly unrelated note - the coronavirus crisis is going to put immense strain on every nation and the EU's policy of monetary but not fiscal union may end up be particularly exposed, as a result the EU may emerge from the crisis in a totally different form as to what exists today. It might well result in federalisation plans being accelerated and further integration - which obviously you'd want no part of - but it could also decide that federalisation is not the answer and revert to a looser relationship between members.

    If - and this is a big 'if' which I am not saying it will happen - the EU decided to reverse some of it's integrated policies and return to something similar to the EEC what would your thoughts on Brexit be then?
    Agreed after/if a medical solution is found the top priority will be preservation of UK finances. A transition extension could quite possibly have expensive implications and costs for all UK taxpayers, I cannot believe a Tory government will see £billions more of hard earned funnelled towards rebuilding an EU who aided unfettered spread of Covid by not suspending schengen at a far earlier stage.

    If the EU reverted back to a looser more trade related arrangement, I'd support another UK referendum on it. I did read somewhere that Merkels replacement could be a German version of Boris Johnson, so you never know.

    So yeah that would be lovely, but I mean we are dreaming right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Agreed after/if a medical solution is found the top priority will be preservation of UK finances. A transition extension could quite possibly have expensive implications and costs for all UK taxpayers, I cannot believe a Tory government will see £billions more of hard earned funnelled towards rebuilding an EU who aided unfettered spread of Covid by not suspending schengen at a far earlier stage.

    If the EU reverted back to a looser more trade related arrangement, I'd support another UK referendum on it. I did read somewhere that Merkels replacement could be a German version of Boris Johnson, so you never know.

    So yeah that would be lovely, but I mean we are dreaming right?
    Normal fiscal and economic policy is out of the window at present and the cost of extending the transition period - which would most likely be political rather than financial - is a drop in ocean compared the stimulus has been announced so far.

    Even if it is from a purely selfish point of view once this is all said and done we might end up bailing out an EU nation or two. But you never know they might be the ones keeping us afloat.

    Anyway that's interesting that you would support a vote on rejoining a looser style EU. If you don't mind me asking - if the the EU did decide to go in this direction and we were offered a referendum - how would you vote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Normal fiscal and economic policy is out of the window at present and the cost of extending the transition period - which would most likely be political rather than financial - is a drop in ocean compared the stimulus has been announced so far.

    Even if it is from a purely selfish point of view once this is all said and done we might end up bailing out an EU nation or two. But you never know they might be the ones keeping us afloat.

    Anyway that's interesting that you would support a vote on rejoining a looser style EU. If you don't mind me asking - if the the EU did decide to go in this direction and we were offered a referendum - how would you vote?
    It depends on the timing, prior to the transition end in December or later if extended, I would vote against. After possibly for.

    The 2016 referendum result must be honoured first, it cannot count for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    That made me laugh harder then I should have. But.. where is Dribbles anyway?

    Dribbles you okay buddy? Hope your alright!
    I was a little worried the Boomer Doom got him for a minute there. Presumably he's a coronavirus denier too, would go nicely with the rest of his nonsense.
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    Holy Moly!

    The Pound is down to 1.15 Swiss Franc... remembering the days it was 2.7....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    It depends on the timing, prior to the transition end in December or later if extended, I would vote against. After possibly for.

    The 2016 referendum result must be honoured first, it cannot count for nothing.
    Interesting, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang View Post
    Holy Moly!

    The Pound is down to 1.15 Swiss Franc... remembering the days it was 2.7....
    It is not far from parity with dollar but it did pick up a little from yesterday's low against the Euro although seems to be falling again.

    But this probably one for the Coronavirus thread rather than this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Do you not think that there might be a slight clue in the words "Canada style deal" as to what a "Canada style deal" might entail? I can assure you that having read what's in the Canada/EU agreement the idea that it is an 'everything else' situation is complete and utter nonsense. Quite frankly what you've written is embarrassing!
    I'm pretty sure the UK can print out the EU-Canada deal any time they like and sign it as many times as they want, it just won't do anything for them as it refers to the EU and Canada, not the EU and the UK, but maybe Boris' supporters won't notice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    David Frost is self isolating with mild symptoms.
    No more That Was The Week That Was, then.

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