View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #28641
    Quote Originally Posted by Demolitia View Post
    What's with Farage lately? Last I heard he was making another critical-but not-constructive party but somehow ended up in a dark oblivion?
    Is he a german citizen now?
    I think he was starting an anti-lockdown party, and then Johnson announced the phase-out of lockdowns a couple of months later. Probably looking for a gig touring the right-wing media.

  2. #28642
    Quote Originally Posted by Demolitia View Post
    What's with Farage lately? Last I heard he was making another critical-but not-constructive party but somehow ended up in a dark oblivion?
    Is he a german citizen now?
    Likely waiting for Andrew Neill's far-right news channel to come out in a few months and be a "contributor" to that.

  3. #28643
    Quote Originally Posted by Demolitia View Post
    What's with Farage lately? Last I heard he was making another critical-but not-constructive party but somehow ended up in a dark oblivion?
    Is he a german citizen now?
    I think he was last seen wandering towards badger's home muttering something about weasels taking over Toad Hall.

  4. #28644
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    I think he was last seen wandering towards badger's home muttering something about weasels taking over Toad Hall.
    The irony of how he found a niche to get himself elected in the EP and keep his sit for over a decade without actually acting on anything he preached, and then others acting on it and making him irrelevant, is just delightful.

  5. #28645
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ticle-masthead

    Now Brexit cheerleading Wetherspoon boss Tim Martin calls for more EU migration to help bars and restaurants cope with staffing crisis - as business leader says British workers are happy 'sitting on furlough getting 80% pay'
    Yo Dribbelinho... I just quoted your holy bible, so it must be true. The UK is doing a 180°.

    Are you asking for us to help you now, too?

    I'm dying in laughter here...
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  6. #28646
    Quote Originally Posted by Butler to Baby Sloths View Post
    I think he was starting an anti-lockdown party, and then Johnson announced the phase-out of lockdowns a couple of months later. Probably looking for a gig touring the right-wing media.
    he was doing a US speaking tour and people kept booking tickets (free) and not turning up.

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    and in the newest episode of "we fucking told you":

    David Frost 2021:
    "We enforce EU law in Northern Ireland as required. We take no lectures on whether we are implementing the protocol — we are.

    But because we are operating under the EU’s legal framework we have very limited discretion to operate the rules in a way which makes sense on the ground in Northern Ireland."

    "The EU needs a new playbook for dealing with neighbours, one that involves pragmatic solutions between friends, not the imposition of one side’s rules on the other and legal purism."

    https://www.ft.com/content/eb35a108-...1-5e1df0e2c64a

    David Frost 2020:
    “We are not going to be a client state. We are not going to compromise on the fundamentals of having control over our own laws.

    We are not going to accept level playing field provisions that lock us into the way the EU do things; we are not going to accept provisions that give them control over our money or the way we can organise things here in the UK and that should not be controversial – that’s what being an independent country is about, that’s what the British people voted for and that’s what will happen at the end of the year, come what may.”
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

  8. #28648
    Ok, fess up. Which one of y'all goofballs told Politico this?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/poli...rket-1.4588422

    EU sources emphatically denied a report that the possibility of checks between Ireland and the rest of the EU had been privately discussed if Britain persisted in not implementing the checks needed to protect the Single Market.

    A report in Brussels-based outlet Politico Europe said that an “emergency plan” was being discussed by EU officials and diplomats to introduce checks on goods from Ireland to the rest of the Single Market.

    An Irish government source dismissed the report as “not true at all” while it was dismissed by an EU official as a “load of s***e”.
    This sounds like one of Dribble's bad ideas... one of you must have spread this for fun. Own up... :P
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  9. #28649
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Ok, fess up. Which one of y'all goofballs told Politico this?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/poli...rket-1.4588422



    This sounds like one of Dribble's bad ideas... one of you must have spread this for fun. Own up... :P
    The EU is lying! Obviously it has been "privately discussed" (among Tories in London).

  10. #28650
    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    The EU is lying! Obviously it has been "privately discussed" (among Tories in London).
    I suspect you may be right...
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  11. #28651
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    This sounds like one of Dribble's bad ideas... one of you must have spread this for fun. Own up... :P
    I was more interested to note that it was described as 'load of shite' and not 'load of shit' (as it obviously is; the only option would be that EU introduced additional checks between N. Ireland and the EU).

    Seems that the -e is more Irish/Scottish English, and we might see a shift towards that in the EU.

  12. #28652
    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    I was more interested to note that it was described as 'load of shite' and not 'load of shit' (as it obviously is; the only option would be that EU introduced additional checks between N. Ireland and the EU).

    Seems that the -e is more Irish/Scottish English, and we might see a shift towards that in the EU.
    I wouldn't be surprised if that had been an Irish delegate. They are well aware of British intentions to effectively split Ireland from the EU. And they're equally aware that the EU will follow whatever Ireland wants in that question. We got their backs. What they say goes.
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  13. #28653
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if that had been an Irish delegate. They are well aware of British intentions to effectively split Ireland from the EU. And they're equally aware that the EU will follow whatever Ireland wants in that question. We got their backs. What they say goes.
    Its to do with trying to avoid trouble in NI flaring up again and putting the good Friday agreement at risk, it's not to segregate Ireland from the EU or the UK to score points against the EU. This effects Ireland as a whole not just NI, My mother was born in the south and came to the UK when she was 18 to train as a nurse, so I have quite a large extended family over there and we go over every 2-3 years.

    A lot of the good Friday agreement is hinged on the fact that while NI still wasn't part of Ireland, both were part of a greater body inside the EU and the freedom of trade and movement that it allowed was enough for all parties to agree to and stop the violence. I have no idea how to resolve it amicably, but hope they find a way.
    The UK government have been attempting to kick it down the road as long as they can, but it is another aspect of Brexit that the dumb fucks! (including those who post here) failed to take into account.

  14. #28654
    Quote Originally Posted by Iliena View Post
    Its to do with trying to avoid trouble in NI flaring up again and putting the good Friday agreement at risk, it's not to segregate Ireland from the EU or the UK to score points against the EU. This effects Ireland as a whole not just NI, My mother was born in the south and came to the UK when she was 18 to train as a nurse, so I have quite a large extended family over there and we go over every 2-3 years.

    A lot of the good Friday agreement is hinged on the fact that while NI still wasn't part of Ireland, both were part of a greater body inside the EU and the freedom of trade and movement that it allowed was enough for all parties to agree to and stop the violence. I have no idea how to resolve it amicably, but hope they find a way.
    The UK government have been attempting to kick it down the road as long as they can, but it is another aspect of Brexit that the dumb fucks! (including those who post here) failed to take into account.
    The UK absolutely would love for Ireland to be seggregated from the EU. That would immediately solve their gordic knot. The whole paradox about closing borders while keeping borders open would disappear overnight. At the low, low cost of some Irishmen's lives... as far as the UK goes, that would absolutely be a steal.
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  15. #28655
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    The UK absolutely would love for Ireland to be seggregated from the EU. That would immediately solve their gordic knot. The whole paradox about closing borders while keeping borders open would disappear overnight. At the low, low cost of some Irishmen's lives... as far as the UK goes, that would absolutely be a steal.
    Stop nation bashing. As somebody with duel nationality of both counties involved I find it offensive and doesn't help the argument about a complex issue.

  16. #28656
    Quote Originally Posted by Iliena View Post
    Stop nation bashing. As somebody with duel nationality of both counties involved I find it offensive and doesn't help the argument about a complex issue.
    That aint as much as nation bashing as a real geopolitics.
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  17. #28657
    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    The EU is lying! Obviously it has been "privately discussed" (among Tories in London).
    I mean this was the brexiteers plan post vote. That Ireland would somehow forget 1000 years of history on the islands and jump willingly out with the nation that has basically been their abuser for the longest time.

    English exceptionalism at its finest (Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland wouldn't have this view).

    In fact there are many people that I have dealt with in the last few years that still think reunification of Ireland will happen when the republic decides to rejoin the UK. That is the delusion that people have over here.

  18. #28658
    Quote Originally Posted by Iliena View Post
    Stop nation bashing. As somebody with duel nationality of both counties involved I find it offensive and doesn't help the argument about a complex issue.
    I mean, it was suggested before. It's not nation bashing, maybe you should inform yourself about your country's politics a little better. Also, I'm beginning to doubt your identity and your background story. Someone from Irish and British background should really know this. It's not a big state secret.
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  19. #28659
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    I mean this was the brexiteers plan post vote. That Ireland would somehow forget 1000 years of history on the islands and jump willingly out with the nation that has basically been their abuser for the longest time.

    English exceptionalism at its finest (Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland wouldn't have this view).

    In fact there are many people that I have dealt with in the last few years that still think reunification of Ireland will happen when the republic decides to rejoin the UK. That is the delusion that people have over here.
    I think Boris's plan was to simply ignore the WA and not put up a border. Turns out the entire international community is (unsurprisingly) not ok with that considering all international treaties rely on the simple understanding that both sides will honour it.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  20. #28660
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    I think Boris's plan was to simply ignore the WA and not put up a border. Turns out the entire international community is (unsurprisingly) not ok with that considering all international treaties rely on the simple understanding that both sides will honour it.
    There's also this silly little annoyance that borders, unregulated, are by default closed and separate countries from each other. I know, it's a big nuisance and really who wants that, but apparently that's what it is... Poor Brexiteers, gotten so used to having their borders open, they totally forgot that a normal, unregulated border actually means the end of the line. Do not cross over. Beyond is "territory you are not allowed in". Your presence on the other side already makes you a criminal.
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